[efloraofindia:321900] Re: Flower for Id - 18052019SH1

[Aarti S. Khale]

Some Combretaceae.
Could be Arjun or Baheda. Not sure
Aarti

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 2:50:28 PM UTC+4, Shobha Halwe-Chavda wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Flower for id pl. 
> Location - Versova,Mumbai
> Date - May 2019
> Regards,
> Shobha Chavda
>

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Re: [efloraofindia:321898] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks very very much dear Pankaj for the time and efforts !!
Thanks Garg ji, Lalithamba ji, Usha di and Rawat ji.
Bit by bit towards स्वच्छ अंतरजाल अभियान !!!

To me, we have concluded this thread ... *plebejum* is incorrectly used in
place of *plebeium*, practically in all cases of botanical names, and may
be so in zoological too.
During this discussion, I found that - though only one of them is used as a
valid epithet, both are otherwise valid words, having same meaning (common)
and sound same - refer Dave's Botanary ... plebeium
 /
plebejum
.

Regards.
Dinesh




On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 6:46 AM Pankaj Kumar  wrote:

> Respected sir
> Please see the problem below: Notes are highlighted in orange.
> All are incorrrect names except the fungi. I cant find this name to make
> sure if its correct or not.
>
> *Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species
> 
> *Dendrobium** plebeium* J.J.Sm., Bull. Dép. Agric. Indes Néerl. 5: 6
> (1907). KEW CHECKLIST
> *Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life
> 
> Melastomataceae *Memecylon* *plebeium* Kurz
> 
>  Prelim. Rep. Forest Pegu
> 
>  App. A. p. lxvii.; App. B. 53, in clavi. 1875   IPNI
> *Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)
> ... Mycobank 
> I CANT FIND THIS NAME ANYWHERE.
>
> *Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF
> 
>
>-
>
>Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
>
> 
> (GCI)
>
>-
>
>Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
>
> 
> -- Linnaea 5(4): 607. 1830 [Oct 1830] ; HB. 336. Kuhn, Abh. Nat. Ges.
>Halle 11. 40. Chr. 84. (IF)
>
>-
>
>Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
>
> 
> (IF)
>
>-
>
>Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schl. & Cham.
>
> 
> (IF)
>
> *Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
> people use as reference:*
> India Biodiversity Portal
> 
> GBIF 
> Flora of Pakistan
> 
> National Biodiversity Network
> 
> ALL ARE WRONG.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 20:32, Dinesh Valke  wrote:
>
>> *Here are some binomials with plebejum* ...
>> *Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species
>> 
>> *Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life
>> 
>> *Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)
>> ... Mycobank 
>> *Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF
>> 
>>
>> *Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
>> people use as reference:*
>> India Biodiversity Portal
>> 
>> GBIF 
>> Flora of Pakistan
>> 
>> National Biodiversity Network
>> 
>>
>> *Some White papers*
>> Chemical study of the flowers of Polygonum plebejum
>> .
>> Antibacterial Activity of Polygonum plebejum and Euphorbia hirta Against
>> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)
>> 
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 5:25 PM Pankaj Kumar

Re: [efloraofindia:321897] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Pankaj Kumar]

Respected sir
Please see the problem below: Notes are highlighted in orange.
All are incorrrect names except the fungi. I cant find this name to make
sure if its correct or not.

*Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species

*Dendrobium** plebeium* J.J.Sm., Bull. Dép. Agric. Indes Néerl. 5: 6
(1907). KEW CHECKLIST
*Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life

Melastomataceae *Memecylon* *plebeium* Kurz

 Prelim. Rep. Forest Pegu

 App. A. p. lxvii.; App. B. 53, in clavi. 1875   IPNI
*Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)  ...
Mycobank 
I CANT FIND THIS NAME ANYWHERE.

*Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF


   -

   Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
   

(GCI)

   -

   Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
   

-- Linnaea 5(4): 607. 1830 [Oct 1830] ; HB. 336. Kuhn, Abh. Nat. Ges.
   Halle 11. 40. Chr. 84. (IF)

   -

   Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schltdl. & Cham.
   

(IF)

   -

   Polypodiaceae *Polypodium* *plebeium* Schl. & Cham.
   

(IF)

*Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
people use as reference:*
India Biodiversity Portal

GBIF 
Flora of Pakistan

National Biodiversity Network

ALL ARE WRONG.




On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 20:32, Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> *Here are some binomials with plebejum* ...
> *Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species
> 
> *Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life
> 
> *Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)
> ... Mycobank 
> *Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF
> 
>
> *Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
> people use as reference:*
> India Biodiversity Portal
> 
> GBIF 
> Flora of Pakistan
> 
> National Biodiversity Network
> 
>
> *Some White papers*
> Chemical study of the flowers of Polygonum plebejum
> .
> Antibacterial Activity of Polygonum plebejum and Euphorbia hirta Against
> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)
> 
>
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 5:25 PM Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Sir can you please give me examples of some names?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, Dinesh Valke  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
>>> I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
>>> While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
>>> showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
>>> error.
>>>
>>> I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English
>>> dictionaries; In fact, I have never found in any search results until now
>>> for any genera / epithets.
>>>
>>> I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific
>>> names. Thus had become curious.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant
 names?
 One thing for sure, even if they mean 

Re: [efloraofindia:321896] Araceae for ID : Conservatory, Atlanta Botanical Garden : Atlanta, Georgia : 09FEB19 : AK-16

[Aarti S. Khale]

The Planthotline of the Atlanta Botanical Gardens has suggested this to be
Anthurium cabrerense 'Black Spathe'.
Regards,
Aarti


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:31 PM Aarti S. Khale  wrote:

> Usha Di,
> Sorry for the delay in responding.
> Thanks for the suggested id.
> Really appreciate the interest you have shown.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:34 PM Ushadi Micromini <
> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2/19/2019
>>
>> It is a nice color to see in a spathe
>>
>> but such an incomplete case
>>
>> leaves a lot out
>>
>> and takes a lot out of people trying to help
>>
>> we all are  also very busy with family just like Aarti
>>
>> dont have time
>>
>> but its been more than 10 days and  i was not about to ignore my innate
>> giving impulse
>>
>>
>>
>> this is a rare Anthurium
>>
>> I have seen it in either MoBot in St Louis or some other midwest
>> botanical gardens
>>
>> many many years ago
>>
>> planted as a curiosity
>>
>> again in the glass houses
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> so searching found it
>>
>> a pdf describes this group in details
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Two of the several described  somewhat look like these partial photos
>>
>> Figure Number 4: Anthurium watermaliense
>>
>> Figure Number 5 Anthurium bantanum
>>
>>
>>
>> there are finer points to differentiate the two
>>
>>
>>
>> not possible here.
>>
>>
>>
>> But playing odds numbers game
>>
>> the Black Prince Anthurium is the most popular
>> 
>> and sold in the gardening trade 
>>
>> as you can see even ebay and amazon sell them
>>
>> and that is
>>
>> Anthurium watermaliense
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> But the salient features described here can not be discerned //are not
>> seen in theis case
>> 
>>
>> at least i have not
>>
>>
>>
>> so my diagnosis:
>>
>> Anthurium with black spathe,
>>
>> (possibly Anthurium watermaliense)
>>
>>
>>
>> and that's being generous,
>>
>> bringing it out of the basket of Anthurium dubia
>>
>>
>>
>> a few more complete pictures would have made this case very unique and
>> enjoyable
>>
>>
>>
>> usha di
>>
>>
>>
>> [efloraofindia:316735] Araceae for ID : Conservatory, Atlanta Botanical
>> Garden : Atlanta, Georgia : 09FEB19 : AK-16
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:32 PM Ushadi Micromini <
>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Bubai
>>> the shape of the spathe and color are quite different
>>> its not Anthurium black queen
>>>
>>> https://florafaunaweb.nparks.gov.sg/special-pages/plant-detail.aspx?id=7079
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:33 AM Bubai Bera  wrote:
>>>
 *Anthurium* '*Black Queen*' may be


 Thanks
 Bubai

 On Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 10:02 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Thanks, Aarti ji
>
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> From: Aarti S. Khale 
> Date: Sat 9 Feb, 2019, 9:44 PM
> Subject: [efloraofindia:316735] Araceae for ID : Conservatory, Atlanta
> Botanical Garden : Atlanta, Georgia : 09FEB19 : AK-16
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Araceae plant seen inside the Conservatory.
> Looks like Anthurium Species.
> Aarti
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>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:321896] Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads (plus misc.): 110713 ARK-08 : Cosmos caudatus from Almora, Uttarakhand - November 2012

[Alka Khare]

Looking at the very narrow leaves, this looks like Cosmos bipinnatus only 
(based on the key in efi).

Regards
Alka Khare

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> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. 
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:   
>
> efi page on  Cosmos caudatus 
> 
>
>
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> Date: 11 July 2013 10:31
> Subject: [efloraofindia:159983] Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads 
> (plus misc.): 110713 ARK-08 : Cosmos caudatus from Almora, Uttarakhand - 
> November 2012
> To: indian...@googlegroups.com 
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> Hello friends
>
> Attached are pictures of Cosmos caudatus captured at Almora, Uttarakhand 
> in November 2012
>
> Posting them this fortnight as I had missed the earlier fortnight...
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> Requested to please confirm ID.
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[efloraofindia:321894] SYMBIOSIS : 1277

[Bimal Sar kar]

Attaching a collage of Red spot Jezebel visiting flowers of Allemanda.

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Re: [efloraofindia:321893] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Lalithamba Avadhanam]

Thanks a lot Dinesh ji, it is the one word I am confused, but didn't think
further. thank you
regards
A.Lalithamba

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 6:02 PM Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> *Here are some binomials with plebejum* ...
> *Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species
> 
> *Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life
> 
> *Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)
> ... Mycobank 
> *Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF
> 
>
> *Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
> people use as reference:*
> India Biodiversity Portal
> 
> GBIF 
> Flora of Pakistan
> 
> National Biodiversity Network
> 
>
> *Some White papers*
> Chemical study of the flowers of Polygonum plebejum
> .
> Antibacterial Activity of Polygonum plebejum and Euphorbia hirta Against
> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)
> 
>
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 5:25 PM Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Sir can you please give me examples of some names?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, Dinesh Valke  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
>>> I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
>>> While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
>>> showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
>>> error.
>>>
>>> I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English
>>> dictionaries; In fact, I have never found in any search results until now
>>> for any genera / epithets.
>>>
>>> I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific
>>> names. Thus had become curious.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant
 names?
 One thing for sure, even if they mean same, the spelling must remain as
 it was in original publication.


 On Saturday, May 18, 2019, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:13, Lalithamba Avadhanam <
> alalitha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As per David Gledhill's -The names of plants book- *plebeius -a -um
>> (plebejum) *common, *plebeius- from Greek *(hence both are same) Now
>> I am adding etymology to all plants -it is in the process.
>> *plebius -a -um *veined,
>> thank you
>> regards
>> A.Lalithamba
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:16 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Dinesh Valke 
>>> Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 09:53
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:321258] ... plebeium VS plebejum
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a
>>> few scientific names.
>>> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.
>>> are synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
>>> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
>>> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
>>> plebeium
>>> 
>>> / plebejum
>>> .
>>>
>>> Please throw some light on this close names.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
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Re: [efloraofindia:321892] Re: ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much, Rawat ji.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 6:24 PM D.S Rawat 
wrote:

> Original epithet used by the author is "plebeium" which should be retained.
> Protologue:
> https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/36315697#page/288/mode/1up
>
> DSRawat Pantnagar
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 9:53:31 AM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a few
>> scientific names.
>> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br. are
>> synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
>> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
>> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
>> plebeium
>> 
>> / plebejum
>> .
>>
>> Please throw some light on this close names.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
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[efloraofindia:321892] Re: ID Kashmir

[D.S Rawat]

POWO says Decalepidenthus parviflorus now.
http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:120328-1

DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 5:12:13 PM UTC+5:30, ANZAR KHUROO wrote:
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> Dear All
>
> Please help in ID...
> Gulmarg Kashmir 
> 2500 m 
> Forest floor
> Boraginaceae family 
> Seems Pseudomertensia  
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[efloraofindia:321891] Re: SK1924 18 May 2019

[D.S Rawat]

Looks some *Lonicera/ Devendaea *species (Caprifoliaceae).
Caprifoliaceae in eFI: 
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/caprifoliaceae
D. angustifolia ?
DSRawat Pantnagar

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 4:43:11 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
> Altitude: 2591 m.
> Date: 8 May 2019
> Habit : Wild
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:321890] Re: ... plebeium VS plebejum

[D.S Rawat]

Original epithet used by the author is "plebeium" which should be retained.
Protologue: 
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/36315697#page/288/mode/1up

DSRawat Pantnagar

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 9:53:31 AM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a few 
> scientific names.
> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br. are 
> synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same 
> plebeium 
>  
> / plebejum 
> . 
>
> Please throw some light on this close names.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>

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Re: [efloraofindia:321888] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Dinesh Valke]

*Here are some binomials with plebejum* ...
*Dendrobium plebejum* J.J.Sm.1907 SECTION Crumenata ... Orchid Species

*Memecylon plebejum* Kurz ... Catalogue of Life

*Entoloma plebejum* (Kalchbr.) Noordel., Persoonia 12 (4): 462 (1985)  ...
Mycobank 
*Polypodium plebejum* Schltdl. & Cham. ... GBIF


*Entry of Polygonum plebejum R.Br.in  some sites that
people use as reference:*
India Biodiversity Portal

GBIF 
Flora of Pakistan

National Biodiversity Network


*Some White papers*
Chemical study of the flowers of Polygonum plebejum
.
Antibacterial Activity of Polygonum plebejum and Euphorbia hirta Against
Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)



Regards.
Dinesh

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 5:25 PM Pankaj Kumar  wrote:

> Sir can you please give me examples of some names?
>
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, Dinesh Valke  wrote:
>
>> Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
>> I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
>> While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
>> showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
>> error.
>>
>> I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English dictionaries;
>> In fact, I have never found in any search results until now for any genera
>> / epithets.
>>
>> I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific
>> names. Thus had become curious.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant
>>> names?
>>> One thing for sure, even if they mean same, the spelling must remain as
>>> it was in original publication.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

 On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:13, Lalithamba Avadhanam <
 alalitha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As per David Gledhill's -The names of plants book- *plebeius -a -um
> (plebejum) *common, *plebeius- from Greek *(hence both are same) Now
> I am adding etymology to all plants -it is in the process.
> *plebius -a -um *veined,
> thank you
> regards
> A.Lalithamba
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:16 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Dinesh Valke 
>> Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 09:53
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:321258] ... plebeium VS plebejum
>> To: efloraofindia 
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a
>> few scientific names.
>> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.
>> are synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
>> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
>> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
>> plebeium
>> 
>> / plebejum
>> .
>>
>> Please throw some light on this close names.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
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Re: [efloraofindia:321887] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Pankaj Kumar]

Sir can you please give me examples of some names?


On Saturday, May 18, 2019, Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
> I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
> While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
> showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
> error.
>
> I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English dictionaries;
> In fact, I have never found in any search results until now for any genera
> / epithets.
>
> I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific
> names. Thus had become curious.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant names?
>> One thing for sure, even if they mean same, the spelling must remain as
>> it was in original publication.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:13, Lalithamba Avadhanam <
>>> alalitha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 As per David Gledhill's -The names of plants book- *plebeius -a -um
 (plebejum) *common, *plebeius- from Greek *(hence both are same) Now I
 am adding etymology to all plants -it is in the process.
 *plebius -a -um *veined,
 thank you
 regards
 A.Lalithamba

 On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:16 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Dinesh Valke 
> Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 09:53
> Subject: [efloraofindia:321258] ... plebeium VS plebejum
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a
> few scientific names.
> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.
> are synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
> plebeium
> 
> / plebejum
> .
>
> Please throw some light on this close names.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:321886] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Lalithamba ji.
I agree both mean same ... "common".
Regards.
Dinesh

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 4:55 PM Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
> I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
> While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
> showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
> error.
>
> I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English dictionaries;
> In fact, I have never found in any search results until now for any genera
> / epithets.
>
> I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific
> names. Thus had become curious.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant names?
>> One thing for sure, even if they mean same, the spelling must remain as
>> it was in original publication.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:13, Lalithamba Avadhanam <
>>> alalitha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 As per David Gledhill's -The names of plants book- *plebeius -a -um
 (plebejum) *common, *plebeius- from Greek *(hence both are same) Now I
 am adding etymology to all plants -it is in the process.
 *plebius -a -um *veined,
 thank you
 regards
 A.Lalithamba

 On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:16 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 09:53
> Subject: [efloraofindia:321258] ... plebeium VS plebejum
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a
> few scientific names.
> I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.
> are synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
> Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
> They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
> plebeium
> 
> / plebejum
> .
>
> Please throw some light on this close names.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
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>>> 
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Re: [efloraofindia:321885] ... plebeium VS plebejum

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks dear Pankaj for your thoughts.
I too think the name *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.must have been a mistake.
While putting the query, I had that feeling. But good number of sites
showed up this name. I was wondering there could be some story behind this
error.

I did not expect epithets to have gained entries in English dictionaries;
In fact, I have never found in any search results until now for any genera
/ epithets.

I found *plebejum* is a proper epithet used in many other scientific names.
Thus had become curious.

Regards.
Dinesh

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Pankaj Kumar  wrote:

> Can anyone give me an example of usage of both terms in Latin plant names?
> One thing for sure, even if they mean same, the spelling must remain as it
> was in original publication.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
>>
>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:13, Lalithamba Avadhanam 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As per David Gledhill's -The names of plants book- *plebeius -a -um
>>> (plebejum) *common, *plebeius- from Greek *(hence both are same) Now I
>>> am adding etymology to all plants -it is in the process.
>>> *plebius -a -um *veined,
>>> thank you
>>> regards
>>> A.Lalithamba
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:16 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.


 -- Forwarded message -
 From: Dinesh Valke 
 Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 09:53
 Subject: [efloraofindia:321258] ... plebeium VS plebejum
 To: efloraofindia 


 Dear friends,

 ... *plebejum* seems to be a proper epithet. It is found in quite a
 few scientific names.
 I assume *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. and  *Polygonum plebejum* R.Br.
 are synonymous ... not sure whether there is any mistake in doing so.
 Is one of them in Greek and other in Latin ?
 They both mean same ... "common", and are even pronounced the same
 plebeium
 
 / plebejum
 .

 Please throw some light on this close names.

 Regards.
 Dinesh

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[efloraofindia:321879] Re: SK1902 08 May 2019 - Mycophyta

[Saroj Kasaju]

Looks like .

Thank you Ashutosh Ji !

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:50 PM Ashutosh Sharma <
ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks Schizophyllum commune
> Family - Schizophyllaceae
>
> Best regards
> Ashutosh Sharma
>
> On Fri 17 May, 2019, 5:29 PM J.M. Garg,  wrote:
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>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
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>> Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 at 22:48
>> Subject: SK1902 08 May 2019 - Mycophyta
>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Telkot, Nagarkot
>> Date: 8 September 2016
>> Elevation: 1500 m.
>> Habit : Wild
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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>>
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[efloraofindia:321878] Re: SK1904 09 May 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Any match with the following link ?

Elastostema cuspidatum

plantillustrations.org 131063Elatostema cuspidatum WightR. Wight, , Icones
Plantarum Indiae Orientalis, vol. 6: t. 1983 (1846) [Govindoo]



Species Elatostema cuspidatum Wight



url


Thank
you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Can not say much on perusal of the following (leaf and stem shape look
> close):
> Plant Illustration
> 
> GBIF 
> Can not open Flora of China for keys, if it suit us.
> Also look at images and details at *Elatostema lineolatum* Wight
> 
> We have to look for experts (do we have any ?) and keys.
>
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> Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 at 21:53
> Subject: SK1904 09 May 2019
> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
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>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
> Altitude: 1698 m.
> Date: 8 May 2019
> Habit : Wild
>
> Elatostema cuspidatum Wight. ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
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[efloraofindia:321876] Re: SK1905 09 May 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg ,

In sessile leaf margin is serrated and structure of leaf joint with
the stem looks different.

Elatostema integrifolium


Species Elatostema integrifolium (D.Don) Wedd.



 1494 × 1000


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 11:38 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Can not say much on perusal of the following (leaf and stem shape look
> close):
> GBIF 
> Can not open Flora of China for keys, if it suit us.
> Also look at images and details at *Elatostema sessile* J.R.Forst. &
> G.Forst.
> 
> We have to look for experts (do we have any ?) and keys.
>
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> Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 at 22:09
> Subject: SK1905 09 May 2019
> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
> Altitude: 1698 m.
> Date: 8 May 2019
> Habit : Wild
>
> Elatostema integrifolium (D.Don) Wedd. ??
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
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