Re: [IRCA] LA DX to HI
Mark and All, Like Craig says, the logistics of setting up large broadband antennas during temporary Hawaii trips will be a major challenge. Most of the major motels forbid large external antennas, and it would probably take a lengthy search to find a private house owner that would allow one. This challenge would be in addition to the hassle of carrying any large poles or other loop components through airports. The topography of the Big Island pretty much determines which transoceanic DX areas will be favored at any given location, with the west side having enhanced TP and DU-DX, and the east side far better for North and South American DX. The large volcanoes running through the middle of the island greatly reduce transoceanic signals from the opposite directions. Because of this if a DXer wants to be competitive in all directions, he had better be in a location like the southern tip of the island, which has no major obstructions like those described above. Hawaii also has major transoceanic propagation changes from season to season, so a visitor would need to choose a time and location suitable for his DXing goals. "Hit and run" DXers with Ultralights and FSL's can sample transoceanic DX almost anywhere on the islands, so although we can't record spectrum we can be pretty competitive on frequencies of choice, especially with the freedom to easily set up on beaches favoring our desired type of transoceanic DX. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > On January 11, 2018 at 6:13 PM "R. Colin Newell"> wrote: > > > I really believe that it comes down to knowledge and confidence. > > I bought a copy of (I think) Communications World in 1973 or 1974 that had a > feature on TA DX... hearing Europe from America on medium wave and I went, > “wait... what?” > > And then a sample IRCA bulletin in 1974 where I saw someone hear Okinawa on > 1178 KHz on the West Coast... granted it was a megawatt... > > I met Nick Hall-Patch because of this same sample IRCA bulletin. “Another > DXER in my town? Ya kidding me!” > > When I first tuned 1178 VOA Japan in (and I still have the cassette > recordings...) I just about peed myself with giddiness. It was one of those > magic hobby moments where your mind is blown for all time. > > Hearing the UK, Germany and Russia on medium wave in 1976 was also one of > those moments. > > My point being: you can hear anything, anywhere if you are willing to put in > the time with the right knowledge, equipment and timing. > > Colin Newell - Kona, Hawaii — > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Pete Taylor wrote: > > > > We were on the south coast of Kauai in Sept.-Oct. 1984 and picked up > > LT2-1230 Rosario (9/29) and LR1-1070 Buenos Aires (10/4) and got veries > > from both. I don’t recall hearing any other Spanish-language stations - but > > of course that was 34 years ago… Receiver? I think it was the ICF 2001. I > > also had a loop. That helped. > > > > Pete Taylor > > Tacoma, WA > > 12225w 4719n > > HQ180 & ICF2010 > > Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops > > DX398, SRF-59 & M37V > > Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380 > > === > > > > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] LA DX to HI
I really believe that it comes down to knowledge and confidence. I bought a copy of (I think) Communications World in 1973 or 1974 that had a feature on TA DX... hearing Europe from America on medium wave and I went, “wait... what?” And then a sample IRCA bulletin in 1974 where I saw someone hear Okinawa on 1178 KHz on the West Coast... granted it was a megawatt... I met Nick Hall-Patch because of this same sample IRCA bulletin. “Another DXER in my town? Ya kidding me!” When I first tuned 1178 VOA Japan in (and I still have the cassette recordings...) I just about peed myself with giddiness. It was one of those magic hobby moments where your mind is blown for all time. Hearing the UK, Germany and Russia on medium wave in 1976 was also one of those moments. My point being: you can hear anything, anywhere if you are willing to put in the time with the right knowledge, equipment and timing. Colin Newell - Kona, Hawaii — > On Jan 11, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Pete Taylorwrote: > > We were on the south coast of Kauai in Sept.-Oct. 1984 and picked up > LT2-1230 Rosario (9/29) and LR1-1070 Buenos Aires (10/4) and got veries from > both. I don’t recall hearing any other Spanish-language stations - but of > course that was 34 years ago… Receiver? I think it was the ICF 2001. I also > had a loop. That helped. > > Pete Taylor > Tacoma, WA > 12225w 4719n > HQ180 & ICF2010 > Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops > DX398, SRF-59 & M37V > Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380 > === > > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] LA DX to HI
We were on the south coast of Kauai in Sept.-Oct. 1984 and picked up LT2-1230 Rosario (9/29) and LR1-1070 Buenos Aires (10/4) and got veries from both. I don’t recall hearing any other Spanish-language stations - but of course that was 34 years ago… Receiver? I think it was the ICF 2001. I also had a loop. That helped. Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA 12225w 4719n HQ180 & ICF2010 Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops DX398, SRF-59 & M37V Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380 = > From: Mark Connelly> Subject: LA DX to HI > Date: January 11, 2018 at 11:48:15 AM PST > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > << > Richard E Wood also had lots of Latin American MWDX from his location inland > on the eastern side of BIHI, near Hilo I believe. I see zero mention of LA DX > among current visitors. 73, Glenn Hauser >>> > > I had the same thought. Beyond obvious Mexicans, Richard had quite a few > South Americans in the book including Pacific Coast ones from Chile et al. - > ones seldom logged in the east - as well as some of the ones more common on > this side of the country (e.g. Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia) that don't seem > to have much traction on the US / Canada Mountain and Pacific time zones. > > Going another direction, Richard also had a lot of interior Asian DX from > India, a bunch of "-stan" countries, and even a scattering of stations from > Europe and Africa: difficult routes. > > Of course being there all the time has an advantage over vacation visiting. > Full size Beverage antennas near the shore didn't hurt either. > > His old reports could point to times when looking for far-flung DX such as > Argentina, India, and Saudi Arabia may have at least a slight chance of > reception. > > Serious US / Canada domestic DX would be another worthwhile activity. Of > course KFI, KNBR, etc. are the barn-burners but how far east can you go ... > on the clears, the regionals, and the graveyard frequencies? There could be > some surprises. Newfoundland to Hawaii ... who knows? > > << > When I was in Hilo last, there was Spanish all across the dial - I always > thought: how hard would it be to hear South America in Hawaii? > > I think because we hear so little SA DX in WCNA, we don?t know what to listen > for. > > Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - >>> > > Two things need to happen. > > (1) Read Richard's old reports and filter for what stations are still > actually active. Splits, of course, are all gone, though there are some > stations (like Venezuela 1039.62) far enough off frequency to be "sort of" > split. Dates / times of receptions are still useful, especially if you can > research what was going on geomagnetically then. This is even true for > "dead" station logs since the reports still can point to propagation > viability into specific areas at certain times of year / hours of the day. > > (2) Capture the band with SDR technology at a variety of times from an hour > before sunset onwards. Water in the right directions will definitely help. > There are plenty of Latin American experts on the RealDX Yahoogroup and > elsewhere to sort out your unIDs. East Coast and Europe based Latin American > log reports (from FL, NC, NJ, MA, ME, PEI, NL, UK, Finland, etc.) will > highlight a lot of the "usuals" along with network affiliations / parallel MW > & SW freq's, slogans, characteristic pips / chimes, music or talk format, and > other tidbits of possibly-useful information (advertisers, local politicians > / issues, churches, pop culture, and so on). > > The fact that "usuals" heard in Europe or NE USA / E Canada aren't all going > to be the same as what you get in HI still puts an element of challenge and > discovery into the mix. You will hear more South America than on the US West > Coast just as more is heard in Newfoundland than on the US East Coast. Big > separation from co-channel domestic pests and mostly over-water routes do > matter. > > Mark Connelly, WA1ION > South Yarmouth, MA > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] LA DX to HI
--- Begin Message --- This is an excellent discussion. The use of SRD technology from Hawaii definitely sounds intriguing, but the logistics of an appropriate broad band antenna remain a bit sticky. I wish I could have made the trip to Grayland more than once! Last year I tried in vain to identify a VRBO on the Oregon coast that would allow a reasonable and reasonably transported (via airline) broad band antenna. I had originally planned to take a flag/corner fed loop with an FLG100 and couple of telescoping fishing poles. That plan fell through once the actual owners were contacted a second time when I asked the rental agency for verification that the temporary antenna was permissible. While a couple of 500' spools of small gauge wire are transportable, scouting for ideal beverage locations from afar can be a bit of a challenge. I resorted to TP DXing from Kalaloch, WA equipped with one of Gary's excellent FSLs. Fortunately, Gary DeBock has the interest and ability to design and construct his "airport friendly" FSLs, which as Colin has demonstrated can be easily transported away from local QRM sources. I will be back at Kalaloch this March with one of Gary's FSLs. Even though the FSLs are frequency specific, these FSLs are difference makers. I successfully used mine with a stock Tecsun PL-310, which is also easily transportable. Best of DX, Craig Barnes Wheat Ridge, CO On Thu, 1/11/18, Mark Connelly via IRCA <irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote: Subject: [IRCA] LA DX to HI To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: "Mark Connelly" <markwa1...@aol.com> Date: Thursday, January 11, 2018, 12:48 PM << Richard E Wood also had lots of Latin American MWDX from his location inland on the eastern side of BIHI, near Hilo I believe. I see zero mention of LA DX among current visitors. 73, Glenn Hauser >> I had the same thought. Beyond obvious Mexicans, Richard had quite a few South Americans in the book including Pacific Coast ones from Chile et al. - ones seldom logged in the east - as well as some of the ones more common on this side of the country (e.g. Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia) that don't seem to have much traction on the US / Canada Mountain and Pacific time zones. Going another direction, Richard also had a lot of interior Asian DX from India, a bunch of "-stan" countries, and even a scattering of stations from Europe and Africa: difficult routes. Of course being there all the time has an advantage over vacation visiting. Full size Beverage antennas near the shore didn't hurt either. His old reports could point to times when looking for far-flung DX such as Argentina, India, and Saudi Arabia may have at least a slight chance of reception. Serious US / Canada domestic DX would be another worthwhile activity. Of course KFI, KNBR, etc. are the barn-burners but how far east can you go ... on the clears, the regionals, and the graveyard frequencies? There could be some surprises. Newfoundland to Hawaii ... who knows? << When I was in Hilo last, there was Spanish all across the dial - I always thought: how hard would it be to hear South America in Hawaii? I think because we hear so little SA DX in WCNA, we don?t know what to listen for. Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - >> Two things need to happen. (1) Read Richard's old reports and filter for what stations are still actually active. Splits, of course, are all gone, though there are some stations (like Venezuela 1039.62) far enough off frequency to be "sort of" split. Dates / times of receptions are still useful, especially if you can research what was going on geomagnetically then. This is even true for "dead" station logs since the reports still can point to propagation viability into specific areas at certain times of year / hours of the day. (2) Capture the band with SDR technology at a variety of times from an hour before sunset onwards. Water in the right directions will definitely help. There are plenty of Latin American experts on the RealDX Yahoogroup and elsewhere to sort out your unIDs. East Coast and Europe based Latin American log reports (from FL, NC, NJ, MA, ME, PEI, NL, UK, Finland, etc.) will highlight a lot of the "usuals" along with network affiliations / parallel MW & SW freq's, slogans, characteristic pips / chimes, music or talk format, and other tidbits of possibly-useful information (advertisers, local politicians / issues, churches, pop culture, and so on). The fact that "usuals" heard in Europe or NE USA / E Canada aren't all going to be the same as what you get in HI still puts an element of challenge and discovery into the mix. You will hear more South America than on the US West Coast just as more is heard in Newfoundland than on the US East Coast. Big separ
[IRCA] LA DX to HI
--- Begin Message --- << Richard E Wood also had lots of Latin American MWDX from his location inland on the eastern side of BIHI, near Hilo I believe. I see zero mention of LA DX among current visitors. 73, Glenn Hauser >> I had the same thought. Beyond obvious Mexicans, Richard had quite a few South Americans in the book including Pacific Coast ones from Chile et al. - ones seldom logged in the east - as well as some of the ones more common on this side of the country (e.g. Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia) that don't seem to have much traction on the US / Canada Mountain and Pacific time zones. Going another direction, Richard also had a lot of interior Asian DX from India, a bunch of "-stan" countries, and even a scattering of stations from Europe and Africa: difficult routes. Of course being there all the time has an advantage over vacation visiting. Full size Beverage antennas near the shore didn't hurt either. His old reports could point to times when looking for far-flung DX such as Argentina, India, and Saudi Arabia may have at least a slight chance of reception. Serious US / Canada domestic DX would be another worthwhile activity. Of course KFI, KNBR, etc. are the barn-burners but how far east can you go ... on the clears, the regionals, and the graveyard frequencies? There could be some surprises. Newfoundland to Hawaii ... who knows? << When I was in Hilo last, there was Spanish all across the dial - I always thought: how hard would it be to hear South America in Hawaii? I think because we hear so little SA DX in WCNA, we don?t know what to listen for. Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - >> Two things need to happen. (1) Read Richard's old reports and filter for what stations are still actually active. Splits, of course, are all gone, though there are some stations (like Venezuela 1039.62) far enough off frequency to be "sort of" split. Dates / times of receptions are still useful, especially if you can research what was going on geomagnetically then. This is even true for "dead" station logs since the reports still can point to propagation viability into specific areas at certain times of year / hours of the day. (2) Capture the band with SDR technology at a variety of times from an hour before sunset onwards. Water in the right directions will definitely help. There are plenty of Latin American experts on the RealDX Yahoogroup and elsewhere to sort out your unIDs. East Coast and Europe based Latin American log reports (from FL, NC, NJ, MA, ME, PEI, NL, UK, Finland, etc.) will highlight a lot of the "usuals" along with network affiliations / parallel MW & SW freq's, slogans, characteristic pips / chimes, music or talk format, and other tidbits of possibly-useful information (advertisers, local politicians / issues, churches, pop culture, and so on). The fact that "usuals" heard in Europe or NE USA / E Canada aren't all going to be the same as what you get in HI still puts an element of challenge and discovery into the mix. You will hear more South America than on the US West Coast just as more is heard in Newfoundland than on the US East Coast. Big separation from co-channel domestic pests and mostly over-water routes do matter. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA--- End Message --- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] LA DX to HI
Noted. When I was in Hilo last, there was Spanish all across the dial - I always thought: how hard would it be to hear South America in Hawaii? I think because we hear so little SA DX in WCNA, we don’t know what to listen for. Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - > On Jan 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Glenn Hauserwrote: > > Richard E Wood also had lots of Latin American MWDX from his location inland > on the eastern side of BIHI, near Hilo I believe. I see zero mention of LA DX > among current visitors. 73, Glenn Hauser ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] LA DX to HI
--- Begin Message --- Richard E Wood also had lots of Latin American MWDX from his location inland on the eastern side of BIHI, near Hilo I believe. I see zero mention of LA DX among current visitors. 73, Glenn Hauser --- End Message --- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com