[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15107151#comment-15107151 ] Andrew Or commented on SPARK-12485: --- [~srowen] to answer your question no I don't feel super strongly about changing it. Naming is difficult in general and I think both "dynamic allocation" and "elastic scaling" do mean roughly the same thing. It's just that I slightly prefer the latter (or something shorter) after giving a few talks on this topic and chatting with a few people about it in real life. I'm also totally cool with closing this as a Won't Fix if you or [~markhamstra] prefer. > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15106966#comment-15106966 ] Mark Hamstra commented on SPARK-12485: -- Right, I am saying that "dynamic allocation" is the right name for what Spark currently does, and that "elastic scaling" would be a good name for changing the number of cluster nodes (or otherwise modifying the size of the cluster resource pool), which Spark currently doesn't do or effectively support (but which would be a very nice feature to have.) > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15106920#comment-15106920 ] Sean Owen commented on SPARK-12485: --- So you're suggesting "dynamic allocation" is a better name for what Spark does? Although I don't have as strong a distinction in my mind, I agree those are different ideas and could/should have different names, whatever those may be. Spark doesn't add more YARN workers, but we can still have a name for it. > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15106820#comment-15106820 ] Mark Hamstra commented on SPARK-12485: -- Actually, Sean, I'd argue that they are not the same and that something like "elastic scaling" be retained for another concept. What Spark is doing with dynamic allocation is to re-allocate resources from an essentially fixed pool of cluster resources -- a particular Application may be re-assigned a different number of Executors, for example, but the total number of Worker nodes remains the same. Elastic scaling, on the other hand, I would argue should be applied to dynamically changing the number of Worker nodes or other cluster resources -- changing the size of the pool, not just re-allocating from a constant size pool. > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15106710#comment-15106710 ] Sean Owen commented on SPARK-12485: --- I think these are all arguably about the same, and there's a non-trivial cost to changing it. At least, this thread here indicates there's not an obviously better term. [~andrewor14] how strongly do you feel about this? > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15106693#comment-15106693 ] Apache Spark commented on SPARK-12485: -- User 'somideshmukh' has created a pull request for this issue: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/10832 > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15098602#comment-15098602 ] Steve Loughran commented on SPARK-12485: "elastic" is over-used "elastic search, "Elastic MapReduce". "Autoscaling", maybe? > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-12485) Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling"
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15068731#comment-15068731 ] Sean Owen commented on SPARK-12485: --- I must say I don't think that's worth it. Both terms seem equally sound, but dynamic allocation has been widely used to describe the feature externally. Renaming it doesn't seem to add much of anything in comparison. > Rename "dynamic allocation" to "elastic scaling" > > > Key: SPARK-12485 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-12485 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: Spark Core >Reporter: Andrew Or >Assignee: Andrew Or > > Fewer syllables, sounds more natural. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org