[JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss
Another free J2EE server hits the street. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,767989,00.asp I think the difference between JBoss and Sun One is subtle but important and summarized nicely by independent analyst Jason Bloomberg in that same article: What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't admit is that the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're having trouble even giving it away, said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at ZapThink LLC., Cambridge, Mass. Looks like Sun is going after a specific demographic: business that want something for free and don't necessarily care whether it actually works. The problem is that market is relatively small: Bob in Kansas City and a couple of chicks running a website out of state prison. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss
This is a pretty slanted article because the SunONE 7.0 app server which is being discussed wasn't even released until about a week after the article was published. SunONE 7.0 is what is bundled with Solaris 9. It's probably a safe bet Bloomberg was referring to iPlanet6.x and that he had no knowledge or experience with SunONE 7 I'm a long time JBoss fan and user, but I've used the SunONE 7.0 server too and it has come a long in addressing previous concerns and has know become very WebLogic like in terms of ease of use, documentation and support. It is a complete, easy to use and comprehensive j2ee solution. So, how can you say summarized nicely by JB? Have you tried it out yourself? If not here's a link that may open your eyes and mind (http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/appsrvr/home_appsrvr.html). Enjoy JohnH - Original Message - From: Tony Tortallini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:41:54 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss Another free J2EE server hits the street. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,767989,00.asp I think the difference between JBoss and Sun One is subtle but important and summarized nicely by independent analyst Jason Bloomberg in that same article: What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't admit is that the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're having trouble even giving it away, said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at ZapThink LLC., Cambridge, Mass. Looks like Sun is going after a specific demographic: business that want something for free and don't necessarily care whether it actually works. The problem is that market is relatively small: Bob in Kansas City and a couple of chicks running a website out of state prison. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss
Yeah, I'm the comment was in reference to iPlanet6.x because analysts are always saying SunONE Application Server when they really mean iPlanet6.x. The negative comment represents one man's opinion and I agree with you. They are giving away SunONE Application Server to give the billing department a rest, not because nobody would pay money for it. I think the same logic is behind the inclusion of the demo version of weblogic. It's just a way of offering the customer freedom of choice, but then you have to fork over the big bucks to use either of them in a production environment. Some people have commented that IBM is killing them in the market place on the high end while JBoss is sweeping in on the flanks. I disagree, this is just Sun's kind heart and concern for customers at work. What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't admit is that the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're having trouble even giving it away, said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at ZapThink LLC., Cambridge, Mass. ep - Original Message - From: John Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss This is a pretty slanted article because the SunONE 7.0 app server which is being discussed wasn't even released until about a week after the article was published. SunONE 7.0 is what is bundled with Solaris 9. It's probably a safe bet Bloomberg was referring to iPlanet6.x and that he had no knowledge or experience with SunONE 7 I'm a long time JBoss fan and user, but I've used the SunONE 7.0 server too and it has come a long in addressing previous concerns and has know become very WebLogic like in terms of ease of use, documentation and support. It is a complete, easy to use and comprehensive j2ee solution. So, how can you say summarized nicely by JB? Have you tried it out yourself? If not here's a link that may open your eyes and mind (http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/appsrvr/home_appsrvr.html). Enjoy JohnH - Original Message - From: Tony Tortallini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:41:54 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss Another free J2EE server hits the street. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,767989,00.asp I think the difference between JBoss and Sun One is subtle but important and summarized nicely by independent analyst Jason Bloomberg in that same article: What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't admit is that the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're having trouble even giving it away, said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at ZapThink LLC., Cambridge, Mass. Looks like Sun is going after a specific demographic: business that want something for free and don't necessarily care whether it actually works. The problem is that market is relatively small: Bob in Kansas City and a couple of chicks running a website out of state prison. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss
It's hard to believe Sun is targeting JBoss. They are probably getting desperate about NET. If so, this is a pretty clever strategy for getting more developers on J2EE. Hopefully those developers won't find J2EE so overwhelming and Sun's product so restrictive that they'll be driven to NET anyhow. Sun's stock was up recently, supposedly due to the release of some new Systems Management software. Sun may also be looking for a way to find more nodes to manage. I hope Sun has their revenue model figured out. I sure don't. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
