[JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
Hi, I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what we have. I found: 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has CAD-alike features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools into the default digitizing box. 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. Quick comments: 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error from the console window: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): File "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", line 201, in handleDeActivation AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own tool box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of the OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the "Continue lines until they cross" tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such tool in other open source GIS. "Draw perpendicular" works well also with circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool "Draw tangent". None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the "Draw with commands" tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax even I found the manual http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. What I would like to do feels simple to me: - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next given coordinates I know I can workaround the manual feed of coordinates effectively by using WKT but not the angle + distance alternative. -Jukka Rahkonen- -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
Hi Jukka, thanks for the comment, regarding my part, cadtools are relatively old and they were never upgraded to new shortcuts added by Ede on OJ: they were basically a sort of "programming java test" for me. Recently I started to work to a new version, removing the tools which have no usage, porting some Kosmo ones and making more OJ shortcut compatibly . I would like to add the source to OJ repository and have in OJ Plus, as separate plugin/toolbar Porting Kosmo tools is not difficult, even for a newby like me. The problem is the dependency to many classes, some of these classes might have equivalence to OpenJUMP one, but it is quite difficult to find them. Best regards Peppe 2015-01-20 13:07 GMT+01:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi>: > Hi, > > > > I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what > we have. I found: > > 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has CAD-alike > features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). > > 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools into > the default digitizing box. > > 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. > > > > Quick comments: > > > > 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new > drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for > non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial > scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for > creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is > needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots > and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error > from the console window: > > > > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): > > File > "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", > line 201, in handleDeActivation > > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' > > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): > > > > 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own tool > box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of the > OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the > other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as > planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing > closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to > OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. > > 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it > would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the “Continue lines > until they cross” tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such > tool in other open source GIS. “Draw perpendicular” works well also with > circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool “Draw > tangent”. > > > > None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the “Draw with > commands” tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax even > I found the manual > http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. > What I would like to do feels simple to me: > > > > - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y > > - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next > given coordinates > > > > I know I can workaround the manual feed of coordinates effectively by > using WKT but not the angle + distance alternative. > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > -- > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
Hi , I confirm that DrawRoadTool of Phyton plugin doens't work anymore and blocks any drawing tools too. The only way to go out is to kill java process. I use Ubuntu 14.04 and OpenJDK. Peppe 2015-01-21 7:57 GMT+01:00 Giuseppe Aruta : > Hi Jukka, > thanks for the comment, regarding my part, cadtools are relatively old and > they were never upgraded to new shortcuts added by Ede on OJ: they were > basically a sort of "programming java test" for me. > Recently I started to work to a new version, removing the tools which > have no usage, porting some Kosmo ones and making more OJ shortcut > compatibly . > I would like to add the source to OJ repository and have in OJ Plus, as > separate plugin/toolbar > Porting Kosmo tools is not difficult, even for a newby like me. The > problem is the dependency to many classes, some of these classes might > have equivalence to OpenJUMP one, but it is quite difficult to find them. > Best regards > Peppe > > 2015-01-20 13:07 GMT+01:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < > jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi>: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what >> we have. I found: >> >> 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has CAD-alike >> features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). >> >> 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools into >> the default digitizing box. >> >> 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. >> >> >> >> Quick comments: >> >> >> >> 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new >> drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for >> non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial >> scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for >> creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is >> needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots >> and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error >> from the console window: >> >> >> >> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >> >> File >> "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", >> line 201, in handleDeActivation >> >> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' >> >> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >> >> >> >> 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own tool >> box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of the >> OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the >> other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as >> planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing >> closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to >> OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. >> >> 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it >> would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the “Continue lines >> until they cross” tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such >> tool in other open source GIS. “Draw perpendicular” works well also with >> circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool “Draw >> tangent”. >> >> >> >> None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the “Draw with >> commands” tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax even >> I found the manual >> http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. >> What I would like to do feels simple to me: >> >> >> >> - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y >> >> - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next >> given coordinates >> >> >> >> I know I can workaround the manual feed of coordinates effectively by >> using WKT but not the angle + distance alternative. >> >> >> >> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >> >> >> -- >> New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. >> GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. >> Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. >> Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet >> ___ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> > -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet__
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
> > 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new > drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for > non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial > scripting language at the moment. *However, if I understand right for > creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is > needed*. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest > snapshots and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. > The error from the console window: > @Jukka, I assume you are referring to the following line from Startup.py: #tools can be defined in java only - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool The comment is badly worded. It should say #tools may also be defined in java and activated here - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool There are many examples of defining a new drawing tool in jython only. While I don't currently have my OpenJump development platform up to date, I did diff the SkyJUMP copies of two attached files and bring them up to date with the new Shift key feature of the Road Curve tool (it is maddening to draw long straight stretch of road without it!). If one of the developers has a few minutes, they can see if it fixes the issue. If it doesn't we can comment out lines 100 through 109 in startup.py to deactivate the Road tool. regards, Larry Becker On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what > we have. I found: > > 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has CAD-alike > features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). > > 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools into > the default digitizing box. > > 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. > > > > Quick comments: > > > > 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new > drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for > non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial > scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for > creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is > needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots > and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error > from the console window: > > > > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): > > File > "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", > line 201, in handleDeActivation > > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' > > Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): > > > > 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own tool > box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of the > OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the > other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as > planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing > closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to > OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. > > 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it > would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the “Continue lines > until they cross” tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such > tool in other open source GIS. “Draw perpendicular” works well also with > circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool “Draw > tangent”. > > > > None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the “Draw with > commands” tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax even > I found the manual > http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. > What I would like to do feels simple to me: > > > > - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y > > - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next > given coordinates > > > > I know I can workaround the manual feed of coordinates effectively by > using WKT but not the angle + distance alternative. > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > -- > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > # Copyright (C) 2005 Integrated Systems Analysts
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
Jukka, Larry I tried the patch that Larry sent but is seems not working with OpenJump. At least with my machine Ubuntu/OpenJDK. It the other members of our community agree, I vote to comment out Road Curve tool untill further solutions. A workaround to draw roads is to use Tools>Analysis> Offset curve tool, by Michael, which generate parallel lines so selected one Peppe 2015-01-21 23:53 GMT+01:00 Larry Becker : > 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new >> drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for >> non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial >> scripting language at the moment. *However, if I understand right for >> creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is >> needed*. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest >> snapshots and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. >> The error from the console window: >> > > @Jukka, I assume you are referring to the following line from Startup.py: > > #tools can be defined in java only - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool > > The comment is badly worded. It should say #tools may also be defined in > java and activated here - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool There are > many examples of defining a new drawing tool in jython only. > > While I don't currently have my OpenJump development platform up to date, > I did diff the SkyJUMP copies of two attached files and bring them up to > date with the new Shift key feature of the Road Curve tool (it is maddening > to draw long straight stretch of road without it!). If one of the > developers has a few minutes, they can see if it fixes the issue. If it > doesn't we can comment out lines 100 through 109 in startup.py to > deactivate the Road tool. > > regards, > > Larry Becker > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < > jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what >> we have. I found: >> >> 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has CAD-alike >> features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). >> >> 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools into >> the default digitizing box. >> >> 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. >> >> >> >> Quick comments: >> >> >> >> 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new >> drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for >> non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial >> scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for >> creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is >> needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots >> and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error >> from the console window: >> >> >> >> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >> >> File >> "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", >> line 201, in handleDeActivation >> >> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' >> >> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >> >> >> >> 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own tool >> box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of the >> OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the >> other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as >> planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing >> closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to >> OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. >> >> 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it >> would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the “Continue lines >> until they cross” tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such >> tool in other open source GIS. “Draw perpendicular” works well also with >> circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool “Draw >> tangent”. >> >> >> >> None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the “Draw with >> commands” tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax even >> I found the manual >> http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. >> What I would like to do feels simple to me: >> >> >> >> - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y >> >> - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next >> given coordinates >> >> >> >> I know I can workaround the manual feed of coordinates effectively by >> using WKT but not the angle + distance alternative. >> >> >> >> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >> >> >> -- >> New Year. N
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP and CAD tools
Thanks Peppe. Perhaps I'll find some time soon to fix this. Larry On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > Jukka, Larry > I tried the patch that Larry sent but is seems not working with OpenJump. > At least with my machine Ubuntu/OpenJDK. It the other members of our > community agree, I vote to comment out Road Curve tool untill further > solutions. > A workaround to draw roads is to use Tools>Analysis> Offset curve tool, by > Michael, which generate parallel lines so selected one > Peppe > > 2015-01-21 23:53 GMT+01:00 Larry Becker : > >> 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing new >>> drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable for >>> non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial >>> scripting language at the moment. *However, if I understand right for >>> creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is >>> needed*. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest >>> snapshots and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. >>> The error from the console window: >>> >> >> @Jukka, I assume you are referring to the following line from Startup.py: >> >> #tools can be defined in java only - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool >> >> The comment is badly worded. It should say #tools may also be defined in >> java and activated here - as in this orphaned JUMP Note tool There are >> many examples of defining a new drawing tool in jython only. >> >> While I don't currently have my OpenJump development platform up to date, >> I did diff the SkyJUMP copies of two attached files and bring them up to >> date with the new Shift key feature of the Road Curve tool (it is maddening >> to draw long straight stretch of road without it!). If one of the >> developers has a few minutes, they can see if it fixes the issue. If it >> doesn't we can comment out lines 100 through 109 in startup.py to >> deactivate the Road tool. >> >> regards, >> >> Larry Becker >> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < >> jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I was searching tools for making some CAD alike drawing and studied what >>> we have. I found: >>> >>> 1. Some of the Python tools in the standard delivery has >>> CAD-alike features (rotated rectangle, Arc tool). >>> >>> 2. Peppe has made a CAD tools plugin that adds some CAD tools >>> into the default digitizing box. >>> >>> 3. Kosmo GIS has a special CAD toolbox with about 15 tools. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quick comments: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Python tools feels somehow like a promising way for writing >>> new drawing tools. The Python part of the tools look almost understandable >>> for non-programmer and I suppose that Python is the most common geospatial >>> scripting language at the moment. However, if I understand right for >>> creating new tools Python is not enough but also some java programming is >>> needed. By the way, the Road Arc tools does not work with latest snapshots >>> and it makes so bad a jam that only killing the process helps. The error >>> from the console window: >>> >>> >>> >>> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >>> >>> File >>> "C:\oj_test\OJ_18\OpenJUMP-20150116-r4270-PLUS\lib\ext\jython\RoadTool.py", >>> line 201, in handleDeActivation >>> >>> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'actionPerformed' >>> >>> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" Traceback (innermost last): >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. I would rather place the additional CAD tools to their own >>> tool box because they do not behave exactly as the standard tools. Many of >>> the OJ keyboard shortcuts stop working when a CAD tools is selected. On the >>> other hand, the SHIFT key does not alter the behaviour of CAD tools as >>> planned in most cases. The draw vertical/horizontal tool, tools for drawing >>> closed linestrings and the annotation layer tool would be nice additions to >>> OJ PLUS. Annotation tool might need some revisiting. >>> >>> 3. Many of the Kosmo tools are fine. I wonder how difficult it >>> would be to adapt some of those for OJ. For example the “Continue lines >>> until they cross” tools is simple and clever and I do not remember such >>> tool in other open source GIS. “Draw perpendicular” works well also with >>> circles and Bezier curves but it would be nice to have a sister tool “Draw >>> tangent”. >>> >>> >>> >>> None of these CAD tools had a tool for my need. Or perhaps the “Draw >>> with commands” tool in Kosmo has but I could not discover the right syntax >>> even I found the manual >>> http://www.kosmoland.es/public/kosmo/v_2.0/docs/Extension_Herramienta_CAD.pdf. >>> What I would like to do feels simple to me: >>> >>> >>> >>> - Draw a point or first vertex to coordinates x/y >>> >>> - Draw next point or vertex by angle and distance or to next >>> given coordinates >>> >>> >>> >>> I k
