Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest xorg server

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:48:29 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:

 Peter Nikolic posted on Sat, 02 Aug 2014 21:25:03 +0100 as excerpted:
 
  Thanks for the reply i think it may be as you suggest a permissions
  problem but it is proving to be hell to sort out   every thing was
  fine untill i accepted the update to the latest Xorg server  then
  well
 
 FWIW, latest xorg-server 1.16.0 here, recently upgraded (as it'd have
 to be, because it only recently came out).  No problems to report,
 but as I said, I do the text login, startx with a kde xsession
 setting, thing here, and don't even have a *dm installed, so if there
 were issues with it and *dm, I'd never know it.
 
 But it does seem to me that your issue is likely related to logind 
 console session dynamic permissions.  Obviously those logging into a
 text login session and running startx from there have a login session
 already going when they run startx, with console perms already set
 for the existing login.  That contrasts significantly with the *dm
 login case, where X is already running and at least basic input perms
 would be necessary in ordered to be even to login graphically at all,
 which seems to be your problem.  I just don't know how to fix it
 since the little *dm experience I have is over a decade outdated now,
 well before systemd's logind solution and indeed, before hal and the
 like as well, so literally, generations of solutions have come and
 gone since then. =:^\
 
 
  Ok  well i am going to be out all day tomorrow fishing
 
 =:^)
 
  so will try to solve it monday evening and get back to you then .
 
 

Hi Duncan 


Right had time to fiddle for a while now  ..

I can get KDE up using xinit startkde   all fine but still no
keyboard or mouse  , so this seems it may be a kde based problem  have
to install and try another desktop to test this out .




PS if anyone else has any suggestions please pipe up  i am now getting
desperate to get this machine back up and running  have neither the
space or software on here to do what i need ..


Pete  

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Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:59:06 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:

 Peter Nikolic posted on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:21:45 +0100 as excerpted:
 
  I useed to use Qtdmm on the older system at home but that box died
  so the rebuilt box is up to date KDE 4.9.00 now qtdmm doe not run
  i have been looking around for something to replace it with does
  anyone know of something or even if qtdmm is being ported
 
 FWIW, a quick google told me that qtdmm is qt-based (qt2 and qt3, 
 apparently not ported to qt4) digital multimeter readout and recorder 
 software.  IOW, it's designed to hook up to a specific type of
 electronic meter hardware, without which it's likely to be rather
 useless.
 
 At this point, it's a pretty safe bet that if it hasn't been ported
 to qt4 already, it's not going to be.  Qt4 has been mature for some
 time now, and development effort is now focused on qt5 (which was due
 for a beta about now, but what with qt ownership transfer from Nokia,
 the beta has been delayed a bit), so while existing qt4-based apps
 (including all of kde4) are likely to continue to be supported for
 awhile, if it's not on qt4 yet, chances are it's not now going to be
 ported.
 
 There's a smaller chance it'd be ported to qt5, skipping qt4, but
 that's not likely either, as if it hasn't been ported by now, chances
 are that it's basically dead, unless someone else decides to pick up
 development.
 
 
 Replacement is the next question.  It's here where even a short 
 description like I provided above would have been helpful, as there's
 a fair chance that people might not know what qtdmm is, but still
 know about a replacement, if they knew what they were looking for a 
 replacement for.
 
 The first thing I'd suggest is doing the google I just did, if
 necessary to find contact details for the author, then get in touch
 with him and simply ask.  Maybe it simply hasn't been ported because
 there's already a better solution available, and he can suggest
 that.  Or maybe all he needs to know is that someone's still using
 the app and is interested. It could be he's done the port already,
 and just didn't think anyone was interested any longer so he never
 posted it.  It's simple enough to ask, and you'll never know if you
 don't.
 
 
 Beyond that... I'm not an expert in the area by far, but what
 immediately struck me when looking at the screenshots is how similar
 the graphs looked to the routine voltage, power, etc, computer status
 graphs I run more or less constantly, here.  There's at least two
 whole entire kernel driver areas dedicated to drivers for sensors of
 that type, and quite a variety of software that can hook into them to
 drive graphing, logging, etc.  lm_sensors is lower level userland
 software that can be used to program and read these sensors and
 output to the text terminal or to a file, and there's a whole host of
 GUI software that builds on that. ksysguard (aka system monitor), the
 yasp-scripted plasmoid, and superkaramba are all kde4 based software
 that can be used for this, and there's gkrellem and various
 gdesklets, konqy, etc, for gtk and non-kde use.
 
 But, what I do NOT know is how well that existing software works with 
 generally external sensors, as its more common use and the way I use
 it here is to report on the computer's own system sensors.  I AM 
 sufficiently familiar with yasp-scripted and superkaramba at least,
 that I know if there's lower level drivers/software available for
 those external sensors that can make the information available either
 as text files (perhaps in the kernel's /sys tree) or output it to the
 text console as STDOUT, it's very possible to scrape that data and
 display it in the yasp-scripted or superkaramba GUI as text,
 bar-graphs or plotter/ line-graphs, as desired, because I do just
 that, file or STDOUT scraping, for a number of the outputs I display
 running plotters for, updating them once a second, here.
 
 The big question, then, is whether there's drivers or user-mode
 software available to take the raw output as presented by the
 external device and present it as a text file or as STDOUT.  Chances
 are, especially for relatively common devices, yes.  Linux has better
 support for this sort of thing now than ever before, with a lot of
 hardware manufacturers specifically cooperating with the Linux
 community to ensure that drivers are available for their hardware.
 
 That would explain why this specific specialized software hasn't been 
 ported -- no need as there's much more widely applicable general 
 solutions now available.
 
 But... not being a specialist in the area, I really don't know the 
 specifics.
 
 There are most likely area specific mailing lists and/or web forums 
 available, that would have better information.  I'd suggest googling, 
 maybe something line your hardware brand and model, and linux (with
 or without driver).  It's quite possible there's already quite a
 variety of supported software available and you

Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:48:29 +0200
Thorsten Schnebeck thorsten.schneb...@gmx.net wrote:


 
 Hmm, maybe a distribution issue? Here I use Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE
 4.9.00 and qtdmm 0.8.13 starts fine (using qt3lib-mt).
 
 HTH
 
   Thorsten

Hu looks like qt3lib-mt  does not exists for Arch i will have to go
turn AUR upside down thanks for the heads up ..


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[kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-27 Thread Peter Nikolic
Hi folks .

I useed to use Qtdmm on the older system at home but that box died so
the rebuilt box is up to date KDE 4.9.00 now qtdmm doe not run  i have
been looking around for something to replace it with does anyone know
of something or even if qtdmm is being ported 

TIA   Pete 

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[kde] Re: Okular does not print

2011-07-16 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Saturday 16 July 2011 21:54:32 gene heskett wrote:
 On Saturday, July 16, 2011 04:51:00 PM John Layt did opine:
  On Saturday 09 July 2011 10:24:59 BasaBuru wrote:
   hello:
   
   I don't now why the okular does not print.
   
   When put for print okular not send anything to the printer.
  
  I assume you are printing a PDF file, and that printing from other
  programs does work?  Okular cheats with PDF's, calling the lpr command
  to print, which sometimes causes issues.  On Debian make sure you have
  the cups-lpr package (name may be slightly different) installed for
  best results.
  
  If you run Okular from the command line then try printing, you should
  see the output from the lpr command and any error messages.
  Copy-and-paste the command oud output here and I'll try figure outwhat
  is wrong.
 
 Hijacking a thread here, but it sure needs help.  When okular is set to
 auto-scale, it sends to a US letter printer about 9 wide, so the right
 hand inch is missing. Whomever decided it should be FF's default pdf reader
 needs a very close examination of their thinker.  Adobe reader Just
 Works(TM).
 
  Cheers!
  
  John.
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+1

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[kde] Another Dolphin failing

2011-07-06 Thread Peter Nikolic
Hi .

Just had to rescue a friends  netbook   running opensuse 11.3 and kde 4.6.0
32 bit

he managed to get a lot of it right but pointed out a failing with Dolphin
 a set as wall paper function  when you right click on an image  something i 
believe that windBloWs already does  cant say from first hand knowldge cus i 
aint a windBloWs person 

It would be a nice touch esp for the not so knowledgeable users.

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[kde] Re: Another Dolphin failing

2011-07-06 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 19:00:59 Martin Bednár wrote:
 On mercredi 06 de juillet 2011 15:52:05 Peter Nikolic wrote:
  Hi .
  
  Just had to rescue a friends  netbook   running opensuse 11.3 and kde
  4.6.0 32 bit
  
  he managed to get a lot of it right but pointed out a failing with
  Dolphin
  
   a set as wall paper function  when you right click on an image 
   something
  
  i believe that windBloWs already does  cant say from first hand knowldge
  cus i aint a windBloWs person
  
  It would be a nice touch esp for the not so knowledgeable users.
  
  Pete .
 
 Hi,
 
 Please use punctuation, it will make your posts a lot easier to read.
 
 You can set an image as wallpaper by simply dragging the icon anywhere on
 the desktop. For now it is not possible to change the wallpaper using a
 remote call (dbus). The configuration module and the dragdrop are your
 only options for now.
 
 Martin
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Hi .

Ok so  you can just drag an image onto the desktop and it becoms the wallpaper  

Ok just tried that on this version of kde   which i believe is the same  great

Thanks ..

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[kde] Re: Anyone know how to figure out what packages Kaffeine3 really depends on?

2011-07-04 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Monday 04 July 2011 02:55:28 Felix Miata wrote:
 On openSUSE 11.4 I want Kaffeine to be able to directly play isos made from
 DVDs. Is this possible? If so, what does it take? I tried to have YaST2
 install it, but it wants to install kitchen sinks, bathtubs and garages as
 well, and I don't want to be constantly updating lebenty bazillion Packman
 things never used, nor wasting disk space on them.
 
 I have win32codecs, libavcodecs, libxine1-codecs, libdvdcss2  mpeg2demux 
 its 3 *boost* deps installed. The fault window is currently complaining
 about missing demux, but also saying found input plugin without naming
 whatever it is.

Hi .

Pull Kaffeine off pacman  it just works . the navitve version supplied by most 
distro's seem brain dead some leagal clap trap  somewhere i know it get up my 
nose big time .

I use kafeine all the time  i also have vlc very poor when put alongside 
kaffeine  

Pete



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[kde] Re: How to set up the screen saver to activate when the mouse is at a corner?

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sunday 15 May 2011 19:42:42 gene heskett wrote:
 On Sunday, May 15, 2011 02:20:50 PM Marcelo Magno T. Sales did opine:
  Hello,
  
  There was an option in the screen saver configuration screen to activate
  the screen saver when the mouse was moved to a corner of the screen.
  When I updated from KDE 4.5.x to 4.6.x (Kubuntu), the screen saver
  stopped been activated when I place the mouse on the corner I had
  selected for that. This was working ok in 4.5.x.
  I see that the option to set this up does not exist in the screen saver
  configuration screen anymore.
  I noticed that, in System Settings, there is an applet named Workspace
  behavior (or something like that, I'm translating from brazilian
  portuguese), which has a Screen corners tab. There I can configure
  some actions to be started when the mouse is placed at a chosen corner,
  but activating the screen saver is not on the list of possible actions.
  Is there a way in KDE 4.6.x to set up the screen saver to be activated
  when the mouse is placed at one of the screen corners?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Marcelo
 
 Marcelo, I have no clue, and despite asking here and there, no has told me
 yet why x/kde turns off the DPMS  such when it starts, leaving you only
 with the power wasting screen decorators.

I wish it would i get sick of typing xset -dpms  after ever single update 

 So while this box runs 24/7,
 when I get up to go carve a stick of wood, it may be hours before I come
 back and I seen no earthly reason that the monitors backlight needs to have
 those hours or watts wasted to run it during those extended times when I am
 not around.  I made me a ~/bin directory years ago to hold the stuff that I
 need as the lone user of this machine, and there are all sorts of things in
 there, some of which have largely been rendered moot by the making of ntpd
 in recent history so that it Just Works(TM).
 
 Anyway (and a copy is attached if the server passes it)
 --
 #!/bin/bash
 xset +dpms
 sleep 1
 xset dpms 0 0 450
 --
 That's it, 4 lines.  Adjust the last value which is the DPMS powerdown time
 in seconds, to suit you, put it in your ~/bin (export PATH=~/bin:$PATH) and
 give it execute perms.  If KDE had an init.d, which I haven't found, I
 would see if I could set it up to be the last thing that the kde/x startup
 does.  As it is, I am reminded to run it from a konsole the first time I
 come back in the room  find I am looking at the analog clock I use for a
 blanker. :(
 
 I have no clue where in the startup DPMS gets shut off, according to my
 Xorg.0.log, it is still enabled at the end of the x startup logging, but it
 will not work, and never has since kde4 came out, until I either run this
 script or do the 2 important 'xset' lines by hand from a konsole.

Pete

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[kde] Re: How to set up the screen saver to activate when the mouse is at a corner?

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sunday 15 May 2011 20:08:32 gene heskett wrote:
 On Sunday, May 15, 2011 03:06:21 PM Peter Nikolic did opine:
  On Sunday 15 May 2011 19:42:42 gene heskett wrote:
   On Sunday, May 15, 2011 02:20:50 PM Marcelo Magno T. Sales did opine:
Hello,

There was an option in the screen saver configuration screen to
activate the screen saver when the mouse was moved to a corner of
the screen. When I updated from KDE 4.5.x to 4.6.x (Kubuntu), the
screen saver stopped been activated when I place the mouse on the
corner I had selected for that. This was working ok in 4.5.x.
I see that the option to set this up does not exist in the screen
saver configuration screen anymore.
I noticed that, in System Settings, there is an applet named
Workspace behavior (or something like that, I'm translating from
brazilian portuguese), which has a Screen corners tab. There I
can configure some actions to be started when the mouse is placed
at a chosen corner, but activating the screen saver is not on the
list of possible actions. Is there a way in KDE 4.6.x to set up the
screen saver to be activated when the mouse is placed at one of the
screen corners?

Thanks,

Marcelo
   
   Marcelo, I have no clue, and despite asking here and there, no has
   told me yet why x/kde turns off the DPMS  such when it starts,
   leaving you only with the power wasting screen decorators.
  
  I wish it would i get sick of typing xset -dpms  after ever single
  update
 
 Huh?  Did I use a double negative somewhere Pete? xset -dpms turns it
 off, leaving you with the scene I described and detest.
 
 See man xset.
 
Hi ..

I think it is an opensuse 11.3 issue or an issue with the update system  i will 
crack it one day   not tried 11.4 on here yet it may well be fixed in that ..
any how i wont hijack th thread any more get me nutts chewed .. :-) ..

Pete .




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[kde] Re: KDE Quality (problems)

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Thursday 14 April 2011 14:34:47 Billie Walsh wrote:
 On 04/14/2011 08:20 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I suppose we all have our favorite parts of KDE. For me it's Quanta. For
  whatever reason the devs at wherever have pretty much decided it was not
  worth the effort to bring it along with KDE 4.x. There is one person
  trying to bring it along and I hope someday he manages to do it.
  
  No offense, but why at all should Qanta be part of a Desktop Environment?
  I like Quanta, but what makes it worthwile to integrate it tightly into a
  DE?
 
 Just for openers, it's about the best webpage editor around for any
 operating system.
 
 I can't speak for anyone else but I spend about eight to ten hours a day
 working on web pages. Nothing fancy, genealogy and history pages.
 Quanta, even in it's crippled stated, is head and shoulders above
 anything else. When it was whole, it was awesome.
 
 As I said before, we all have our favorite parts. That may not be a
 must have for a lot of people but for those that need
 it
 
  Kopete is meant to be replaced by telepathy (which is in early
  development)
  
  So I suppose a KDE frontend will be developed by the KDE project.
  Which has to be maintained again, same situation but different program.
  
  - Clemens
I'll second that  i spend a lot of time working on motorsport web sites  and 
Quanta was the bees knees  of editors for the job i use Bluefish right now but 
it aint a patch on Quanta   and neither for that matter is Komposer that is a 
joke to put it very mildy ..

Pete .

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[kde] Re: Kmix KDE4.6 Pulseaudio

2011-02-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 11:44:24 Duncan wrote:
 Peter Nikolic posted on Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:24:01 + as excerpted:
  I have been looking at opensuse 11.4 RC1  with KDE 4.6  now i am not
  sure where the correct place for this is but here goes .
  
  OS11.4rc1 install seems to default to pulseaudio (pa) which if it works
  is fine apart from with pa running Kmix adopts a dire personality where
  each slider id it it's own Tab  .
  
  Question is how can i revert Kmix back to the old sensible method  but
  keep with pa i have tried binning /home/user/.kde4/config/kmix*   that
  just stops kmix  until i log out and back in again when we are back in
  the same disgusting boat of one slider oer tab  dont like it dont
  appreaciate it  find it very clunky to use all in all hard work for
  something that should be simple .
 
 I'm not an OpenSuSE user (Gentoo) nor a pulseaudio user (straight alsa,
 phonon-vlc as the kde/phonon backend), but here's a simple trick that may
 well fix it for you, given the above:
 
 Those kmix config files?  Instead of deleting them, truncate them to zero
 bytes (delete everything in them, or delete them and then touch them to
 recreate @ 0 bytes), then set permissions on them read-only.  (I've used
 this trick to good effect with a number of other kde uncooperatives.  If
 they can't write the bad config...)
 
 If that doesn't work (it might not depending on the config saving
 mechanism) try setting them to root ownership and read-only.
 
 If that doesn't work (depending on the technique used by config-saving
 mechanism, you may need to set perms on the containing directory, which
 isn't ideal given its a general kde config dir, not kmix specific),
 there's three more complex options you might be able to try depending on
 how your system is setup:
 
 If the filesystem in question is ext2/3/4 based, consider setting the
 files in question immutable.  (FWIW I've never done this as I run
 reiserfs here and IIRC it doesn't have an immutable bit, but it's an
 interesting concept.)
 
 If your system runs SELinux security contexts, you can try editing the
 security contexts of the files so kmix can't touch them.  (Again, no
 selinux here so I've not actually tried it.)
 
 Setup a script that deletes the files either as part of the login process,
 before kmix is up and running to read them, or perhaps as part of the
 logout process.  (I HAVE done this sort of thing, before, actually
 somewhat frequently, as because the technique simply runs a script, it's
 as flexible as the commands I can run from a script. =:^)

Well fixed it   uninstalled pulseaudio all fine now mixer back to sanity sound 
still working  from what i have been told on the suse list it seems it is a 
personality used for pulseaudio  henc i will not use pa till this problem is 
solved

Unless anyone knows how to doctor this so called personality 

Pete .

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