[Kicad-developers] launchpad blueprints

2013-09-13 Thread Miguel Angel
Hello,

   I've been watching other opensource communities around launchpad lately,
and I discovered that they make heavy use of blueprints, to keep track of
new features and it's related work.

   Are we using it right now?,  ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad )

   If you find it interesting, I could propose myself to cuddle them a
little, I could make a cleanup of what we have now, and then register about
the current work.

This way we can keep better track of suggestions, ideas, and the work
that gets done, or that it's yet to be completed.

 If you think it's worth, please tell me.

Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
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[Kicad-developers] Netclasses for eeschema / netlists / pcbnew

2013-09-13 Thread Miguel Angel
I was working in a board right now, and I missed something from my old
I cannot remember the name of that old expensive, closed software... bah ;)

I believe it could be interesting to have the ability to mark net classes
in the schematic, so, when propagated to pcbnew, they would be marked
straight away.

Of course, the freedom to mark directly in pcbnew is perfect, but it also
makes sense for me to have this information available at schematic level.

Please tell me if it's already implemented, I couldn't find it.

This would mean:
   * Having netclass marking objects on the schematic (or some kind of
general attribute marking object).

* Rendering net classes out to the netlist.

* Ability to import that netlist back into pcbnew.

Of course, I'm not asking anybody to do it, just proposing so I can get
feedback, and file it and do it in the future if you find it interesting ;)

Greetings,

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Netclasses for eeschema / netlists / pcbnew

2013-09-13 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 09:15:58AM +0200, Miguel Angel wrote:
 I was working in a board right now, and I missed something from my old
 I cannot remember the name of that old expensive, closed software... bah ;)
 
 I believe it could be interesting to have the ability to mark net classes
 in the schematic, so, when propagated to pcbnew, they would be marked
 straight away.

That's in the wishlist/plans for eeschema from a looong time. Wait for
the new schematic format (i.e. a long time :P)

-- 
Lorenzo Marcantonio
Logos Srl

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Netclasses for eeschema / netlists / pcbnew

2013-09-13 Thread Miguel Angel
Good to know,

Is it filled somewhere?, just thinking about my previous email, and writing
a blueprint so we won't forget.

I think we all do what we can with the budget/time we have, so
when the new schematic format is ready we will be able to
do it.


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2013/9/13 Lorenzo Marcantonio l.marcanto...@logossrl.com

 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 09:15:58AM +0200, Miguel Angel wrote:
  I was working in a board right now, and I missed something from my
 old
  I cannot remember the name of that old expensive, closed software... bah
 ;)
 
  I believe it could be interesting to have the ability to mark net classes
  in the schematic, so, when propagated to pcbnew, they would be marked
  straight away.

 That's in the wishlist/plans for eeschema from a looong time. Wait for
 the new schematic format (i.e. a long time :P)

 --
 Lorenzo Marcantonio
 Logos Srl

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Netclasses for eeschema / netlists / pcbnew

2013-09-13 Thread Miguel Angel
Hehe, good, you missed it to from the old closed software ;) :-)



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2013/9/13 Tomasz Wlostowski tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch

 On 09/13/2013 09:38 AM, Miguel Angel wrote:

 Good to know,

 Is it filled somewhere?, just thinking about my previous email, and
 writing a blueprint so we won't forget.


 Hi Miguel,

 It's in our (CERN) plan, point 14. Feel free to copy/link it from
 Launchpad.

 http://www.ohwr.org/projects/**cern-kicad/wiki/WorkPackageshttp://www.ohwr.org/projects/cern-kicad/wiki/WorkPackages

 Regards,
 Tom

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Re: [Kicad-developers] launchpad blueprints

2013-09-13 Thread Felix Morgner
I think this would be a very good idea, since I often struggle to keep up with 
feature propositions/developments via the mailing list, so definitely +1 for 
that from me!

Felix Morgner

 Am 13.09.2013 um 09:08 schrieb Miguel Angel miguelan...@ajo.es:
 
 Hello,
 
I've been watching other opensource communities around launchpad lately, 
 and I discovered that they make heavy use of blueprints, to keep track of new 
 features and it's related work.
 
Are we using it right now?,  ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad ) 
 
If you find it interesting, I could propose myself to cuddle them a 
 little, I could make a cleanup of what we have now, and then register about 
 the current work.
 
 This way we can keep better track of suggestions, ideas, and the work 
 that gets done, or that it's yet to be completed.

  If you think it's worth, please tell me.


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Re: [Kicad-developers] IPC-D-356 exporter

2013-09-13 Thread jp charras
Le 11/09/2013 22:23, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit :
 I noticed it was asked in the user list so I resuscitated it.
 I did it to use 356 instead of gencad for board testing but in the end
 the fabricator preferred gencad anyway...
 
 However, here it is:
 - Tested only with 3 boards (only dual side), so stuff may be wrong.
   Files are read correctly by both CAM350 and (an old version of)
   gerbtool. Real network names in the CAM are actually useful.
 
 - Fixed function, no dialog. Simply asks for the output file.
   I arbitrarily chose d356 as extension, another one found in the wild
   is .ipc
 
 - Always uses the auxiliary axis and always marks via as tented (I think
   these could be the only options)
 
 - Only does the old 356 format, *not* the 356A (however it seems the old
   format is somewhat more supported); shouldn't be too difficult to
   extend for the 356A format.
 
 - Outputs in decimils (i.e. CUST 0 format); gerbtool ignores the unit
   parameter so CUST 0 is the only one it works for it (it seems there is
   a race in suckitude between CAM vendors...)
 
 - It tries to be smart truncating network names, however there is no
   check for other kind of string overflows (the refdes, in particular). 
   Coordinates however are clamped to the maximum representable (what
   about bigger boards/features? there seems to be a scaling facility but
   I guess nobody handle it correctly).
   Extended characters in refdes/pin name could be a problem too (since
   UTF would expand them and break the column alignment).
 
 Also, the specs are not anymore available, I did it using some PDF
 I found around; some things are not clear (so they may be wrong); in
 particular:
 
 - The mask specification seems to imply that the value specified
   indicate the sides unavailable for probing; i.e. a tented via is 3 and
   a THT pad is 0.
 
 - Side number for access code: 0 is both sides, 1 is primary size (i.e.
   top) but the other layers? on a 'finished board' there is only the
   bottom side but the specs talk about inner layer too. So I export 
   top as 1, bottom as num_copper_layers and the internal are between. 
   I'm doubtful about the testability of inner layers before laminating,
   anyway...
 
 - I don't remember if I did the locale switching to C thing during the save;
   however it only writes integers so it shouldn't be an issue.
 
 How it works: really simple... it looks over all the vias and all the
 pins in the board and accumulates a vector with the info; then writes
 the file using the vector (a bunch of printf). It could have written it
 during the scan but later formats require a sorted vector, so I looked
 forward to them. The only fancy thing is keeping a map of shortened
 network names (one of the limitations of the format is only 14
 characters for the netname)
 
 Have fun

I committed your patch (with very minor changes).
Thanks.

But due to a mistake when sending the commit, I committed your patch
under my name.
I apologize.
Sorry.

-- 
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS

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[Kicad-developers] Strange behaviour, schematic, moving components doesn't obey the grid

2013-09-13 Thread Miguel Angel
Is it normal/does it only happen on my system?,

When I draw a wire or when I move a component,
the grid is painted, but doesn't seem to work.

It's making it impossible to me to match connections ':)



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