[lace] Lace with paper string

2006-10-29 Thread Laceandbits
After all the chat about this subject I finally got up off my backside and 
retrieved the one that I made.  As I thought, I didn't knot the ends at all, 
except where I joined the workers.  As I picked up the threads I ran them along 
behind the string for a very short distance (maybe two there and backs with the 
workers) and then cut them off.  My reckoning was that if it was going to be 
stiffened with glue, then nothing was going to move very far.

At the moment it is still waiting for its frame, and I thought it would be 
safer not to fiddle with the paper string until it was framed, so it has been 
kicking around for at least two years now and there is not the slightest sign 
of 
any of the ends working loose.

I stiffened on the pillow, with the proper Moravia 'starch', diluted 50% as 
recommended, but ALL the surplus blotted off as soon as I was sure the threads 
were well soaked.  By doing this, there was no evidence of any having gone 
through the blue film covered pricking to the pillow, and no clear patches of 
dry 
glue in the spaces.  I also agree with Brenda that the Moravia starch is a 
VERY expensive way of buying PVA glue.

Jacquie

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[lace] Lace with paper string

2006-10-29 Thread Jane Partridge
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 and no clear patches of 
dry 
glue in the spaces.  I also agree with Brenda that the Moravia starch is a 
VERY expensive way of buying PVA glue.

I'm just back from taking my class for a weekend course on spiders
(there are a lot more than just the simple cloth stitch variety!) and
during that time we had a look at a few different stiffening methods, as
one of the ideas for the end product was to be Christmas ornaments.

Some of you will remember me saying that the choker that won the Medal
of Excellence in the Myth or Mystery competition nearly ended up in the
bin because my first attempt at stiffening it, with dilute PVA, had
filled in the holes (despite blotting). It washed out, and the second
attempt, using sugar water, worked, thankfully.

Anyway, a few days before we went, a railway modeller husband of one of
my students said that he uses dilute PVA for some of the models he
builds, and if you add a drop of washing up liquid it destroys the
surface tension, therefore having the result of stiffening the article
(in our case, lace) and not filling the holes. So I took some washing up
liquid with me, added a drop to a 50:50 solution of PVA/water, and it
worked - no holes filled.

There are certain brands of washing up liquid I would steer clear of
(read the letters when you get the October Lace magazine next week, if
you are a Lace Guild member - we had a very similar experience with the
same brand, but in our case it bleached ecru DMC Broder Machine to
bright white), but one drop of a reasonably cheap brand didn't do any
bleaching.

This time I've dated the sheet with my stiffened samples on - I forgot
to do that when I did a similar exercise for CG - about 10 years ago, I
think!
-- 
Jane Partridge

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