[lace-chat] Re: May I be excused
(Devon) wrote: It seems to me that most of the respondents who adhere to the practice of excusing themselves and others from the table are Europeans or former Europeans. Hmm, my parents adhered to it, and family on both sides has been in the US for 200-400 years. My grandmother would have had a conniption if we had left the table without asking to be excused. My child-training philosophy comes from my dog-training philosophy: you are *always* teaching them with every thing you do and say, so they might as well learn what you want them to know. Consistent discipline gives a dog (or a child) a mental map: this is *always* no, this is usually yes, this is a maybe. What makes kids and dogs crazy is inconsistency. I have a friend who over the course of 18 months lost all four of his children to car accidents, so I am no discipline-mad monster. We go out for ice cream, and once in a while I will buy treats. But if I say No, I stick to it -- whining and tantrums won't work. And if I say Yes, we *will* do it, none of the someday and when we get around to it that never happened. I say please and thank you to my son and husband, so it is no surprise to me when both of them say please and thank you back. It sure amazes some people, though! Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace-chat] How to get rid of deer
Sharon asked about deer repellent. A person can try all sorts of topical stuff - cayenne pepper on the plants for instance; human hair scattered about; cougar poop among the fronds (or get a cougar - they get rid of deer. But then you'd have a cougar). Eventually the deer will get at the plants unless you put a fence - run a wire about a foot above along the top of the fence - they don't like jumping over something they can't see, but can sense is there. I live in deer country. I now plant what they don't eat in the unfenced areas of the garden, approx half an acre's worth - and two small fenced areas for the plants I really want to grow that are also gourmet salad for deer (hollyhocks and chrysanthemum in one area, a climbing rose in another). Deer tend to avoid yellow-flowered plants (roses and tulips excepted); they don't like herbs; they leave my tomato plants alone but they love legumes. I don't grow those. Deer will also eat what they don't like, when there's nothing else available. They are grazers though - unless it's really yummy they don't usually eat a whole plant to the ground (roses and tulips especially!). Any other plants that I want that aren't suitable for the soil in the fenced areas, I put in pots on my porch. I have yet to have a deer walk up the steps to the porch; and they can't reach the windowboxes either. That is my free advice for today ;) bye for now Bev in the woods near Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] An Obituary
At 03:29 AM 6/18/03 -0400, Lorri Ferguson wrote: This came to me in HTML, so I have retyped it to share here. I can remove the HTML codes from a message without re-typing it -- so the next time one of you is in this situation, send it to me. But I can't see what the original message looked like -- the source code is *all* I see -- so I'll send it back for editing in case one of the deleted codes was doing something. -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Angela back on line
In a message dated 6/19/03 2:49:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As requested, I will send the Mountain Adventure to Lace-Chat only and anyone else on Lace who wants it separately. --- To Whomever Requested Angela Write to Chat Only: Why was Angela told she could not simply write to both lists? Sometimes I wonder we are an International group, and Angela is recognized in many countries as a textile expert. Her writings can be found in books she has authored and in numerous needlework publications. She has been writing and lecturing for a long time, and her account of her travels in Poland stimulated interesting correspondence on Arachne. I realize that Angela's most recent trip was to a place where there is thought to be no lace, but if we understand the cultures of these places, then we understand why there is no lace. Some would think that of no use, but I was prompted by correspondence on this list about four years ago to expand my book collecting focus and research to - and beyond - the Middle East. I am seeking evidence of lace in the traditional costumes of Asia, and I expect to eventually find it - if given enough time. Since the finest of textiles originated in the Orient, I believe we will eventually receive reports of ancient laces being excavated in places we cannot, today, imagine. It is acknowledged that there are many treasures buried in China, but the tombs have not been opened, because of a lack of funds and a lack of Chinese archeologists. Some embroideries that have surfaced are extraordinary and could not have been imagined. Textiles evaporate in alien environmental conditions. That does not mean they did not exist. When I went on an embroidery tour of China 20 years ago (a year after it became possible for Americans to travel in China for the first time in decades) I was surprised to see that the Ming Tombs (plural) may well be there, but at the time, only one was open. You can see large mounds where other tombs are located, but can only speculate as to what they might contain. Years ago, a complete body covering (like a body suit) of thin flat square jade stones was excavated in China. It was a burial garment. This toured museums throughout the world. Who would have imagined such a thing? It helps understanding to be exposed to possibilities and if Angela went to see a culture that has not been well-studied by the rest of us, she was probably partially motivated by her interest in textiles, costumes, embroidery, beads and lace. What the women in a remote region weave and make to wear is of interest. It ties in with my comments yesterday on the too general subject of Arab Lace - and why it does not appear to exist. Continents have shifted, the icecaps of the world expanded and melted, deserts suddenly appeared and conquered great jungles. What was oceans became land. What was land became oceans. We need to understand the lace have nots as well as the lace haves. And then, we need to think of what might have been and may be found. Dearest Angela: Did you wear any lace-trimmed garments during your travels? Obviously, I mean the machine laces that trim our clothes. And, if you did, were they something that could be seen? Any reactions? Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
