Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Paul Ishenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dont complicate already complicated task at the begining. Let's Darius > implement svn plugin at first and then you will push him to make it more > generic. This is my sentiment as well. Get one out there first—then generalise it if the demand is there. So far I'm enjoying the SVN plugin—mostly because I can now type my commit comments much easier and review diffs with less hassle before I commit. :-) Awesome work Darius! Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Paul Ishenin wrote: > >> Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> >> > I second this. Borland has (had) a special API in the IDE for this. >> > Specifically, this would mean that lazarus provides an interface >> > in ideintf, which is then implemented for various version control >> > systems... >> >> Dont complicate already complicated task at the begining. Let's Darius >> implement svn plugin at first and then you will push him to make it more >> generic. > > Of course! I'm happy to see that there is a plugin at all :-) > Since I use Subversion, the SVN plugin is a perfect start for me :-) > > But not everyone uses SVN, so... Creating a generic interface was the plan already from the beginning, but I only have limited time to work on this, and rather than trying to work out an API from the beginning I wanted to create something usable first and then see what functionality can be shared after. I welcome any ideas though on improving the SVN plugin as well as the IDE interface. Keep sending them patches :) Darius ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Paul Ishenin wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > I second this. Borland has (had) a special API in the IDE for this. > > Specifically, this would mean that lazarus provides an interface > > in ideintf, which is then implemented for various version control > > systems... > > Dont complicate already complicated task at the begining. Let's Darius > implement svn plugin at first and then you will push him to make it more > generic. Of course! I'm happy to see that there is a plugin at all :-) Since I use Subversion, the SVN plugin is a perfect start for me :-) But not everyone uses SVN, so... Michael. ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > I second this. Borland has (had) a special API in the IDE for this. > Specifically, this would mean that lazarus provides an interface > in ideintf, which is then implemented for various version control > systems... Dont complicate already complicated task at the begining. Let's Darius implement svn plugin at first and then you will push him to make it more generic. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
On 11/7/08, dmitry boyarintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Imho, it's better to make Generic Version Control integration plugin, rather > than SVN plugin. I'm not the one implementing the SVN plugin, I'm simply testing it and commenting. But you might have a point - though it will be a lot more effort I think. I guess one can look at the SCC API from Microsoft to get ideas for an API interface. Though I don't know much about the SCC API. Not all source control software work the same though. Some require checkout/checkin, some don't. etc.. But that's for Darius to decide if he wants to go though the extra trouble - or leave it for somebody else to tackle. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
dmitry boyarintsev schreef: > Imho, it's better to make Generic Version Control integration plugin, > rather than SVN plugin. Yes, but a svn plugin is better than no plugin. Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, dmitry boyarintsev wrote: > Imho, it's better to make Generic Version Control integration plugin, rather > than SVN plugin. > > So actually ANY version control tool can be used with the same GUI (CVS, > SVN, Git .. and others). All control tool provides common features, like: > file comparing, commite/update/revert, add/remove files with version > controlled project. I second this. Borland has (had) a special API in the IDE for this. Specifically, this would mean that lazarus provides an interface in ideintf, which is then implemented for various version control systems... Michael. ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
Imho, it's better to make Generic Version Control integration plugin, rather than SVN plugin. So actually ANY version control tool can be used with the same GUI (CVS, SVN, Git .. and others). All control tool provides common features, like: file comparing, commite/update/revert, add/remove files with version controlled project. ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
Another option: * SVN Diff screen should not wrap the diff text. That makes it near impossible to see what changed. There is a horizontal scrollbar, but for some reason the text still wraps. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] SVN integration into Lazarus IDE (suggestions)
Hi, Before I flood Mantis with feature requests , I thought it might be worth to discuss some ideal here first and then only put the worth while features in Mantis. This will help guide Darius or whoever is working on the SVN integration. Please note, I know the SVN integration is in it's early days. I have no issues there, on the contrary, I think what has been done so far is pretty impressive and already very useful. Below are some ideas I have. I'm not sure if they already exist or are in the pipeline. I just thought I would mention them anyway. Please feel free to add or extend the list. * http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=12585 This reduces screen clutter * caching of information as it's being needed. Due to the limitation of SVN only storing the most recent revision information to generate diffs. As soon as you request differences between revisions of the same file, it takes 30-60 seconds depending on your internet connection. As soon as such differences get asked for, could those be cached so if it is requested again, all information in locally available. I think TortoiseSVN does this as well. * history (revision) information per file. eg: the active file in the editor. So far I can only find revision information per project level, not file level. * By default, filter the "commit screen" to only show 'modified' and 'unversioned' files in the grid. There is no need or point for the 'normal' files. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
