Re: [LU] Stoke
Yeah; there's been some discussion on the WhatsApp about this, and my position is that I want Leeds United Football Club to win every match, and that means being in the Premier League next season. And I don't think we'll be Sheffield United, because we're better-resourced and better-experienced; they don't have a Rutter or a Summerville, and they certainly don't have an Archie Gray. But we have to accept that for the first few seasons back, we'll be in the lower half, and allow DF/the 49ers the time to slowly build up the club, season by season and signing by signing. On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 13:20, Ted wrote: > Yes! I do want us to go up! > Surely, the whole point of having a pyramid system is that you want to get > to the top! Otherwise, what's the point?? > > I want to see us on MOTD, and hear us talked about. Yes, we had our > disappointments when we were there, but we also had some great moments. > > Won't we be better prepared this time? (IF we go up) With better investment > from 49ers and previous experience? I think we will. We've got to strive to > keep improving so we can challenge the top third - I want us to be fighting > for a European/top 6 place in the next few years, not being a team that > scrapes into playoffs and stays in the championship. > > (Plus I'm knocking on now and can't afford to wait another 14 - 15 years > fro promotion like last time!!!) 🤣 > > Be optimistic Robert! We can go up and not only survive, but improve!! MOT > 😉 > > Ted H > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 11:59 Robert Heath, wrote: > > > "All we can do is win and hope"...indeed. But then there's > the > > conundrum of DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO UP? This season has been SO > enjoyable! > > And I was watching Sheff U's pathetic attempt to match Arsenal the other > > night with so much schadenfreudesque pleasurebut there was a > > nagging thought in the back of my mind that that could be us next season. > > The problem is, obviously, that if we don't go up, all the players who > have > > made this season so enjoyable will (understandably) want to leave. > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:45 AM Ted wrote: > > > >> As usual, a great assessment Dave, agree with everything. > >> > >> On the way home, the radio Leeds team saw it differently and seemed to > >> think we were always in control! Didn't look like that to me in the 2nd > >> half from NE Upper! > >> > >> 3 points is all that matters at this stage tho, all we can do is win and > >> hope! > >> > >> Ted H > >> ___ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. > > > > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. -- Ed Morrish e...@morrish.org | 07870657825 www.edmorrish.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
Re: [LU] Stoke
Yes! I do want us to go up! Surely, the whole point of having a pyramid system is that you want to get to the top! Otherwise, what's the point?? I want to see us on MOTD, and hear us talked about. Yes, we had our disappointments when we were there, but we also had some great moments. Won't we be better prepared this time? (IF we go up) With better investment from 49ers and previous experience? I think we will. We've got to strive to keep improving so we can challenge the top third - I want us to be fighting for a European/top 6 place in the next few years, not being a team that scrapes into playoffs and stays in the championship. (Plus I'm knocking on now and can't afford to wait another 14 - 15 years fro promotion like last time!!!) 🤣 Be optimistic Robert! We can go up and not only survive, but improve!! MOT 😉 Ted H On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 11:59 Robert Heath, wrote: > "All we can do is win and hope"...indeed. But then there's the > conundrum of DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO UP? This season has been SO enjoyable! > And I was watching Sheff U's pathetic attempt to match Arsenal the other > night with so much schadenfreudesque pleasurebut there was a > nagging thought in the back of my mind that that could be us next season. > The problem is, obviously, that if we don't go up, all the players who have > made this season so enjoyable will (understandably) want to leave. > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:45 AM Ted wrote: > >> As usual, a great assessment Dave, agree with everything. >> >> On the way home, the radio Leeds team saw it differently and seemed to >> think we were always in control! Didn't look like that to me in the 2nd >> half from NE Upper! >> >> 3 points is all that matters at this stage tho, all we can do is win and >> hope! >> >> Ted H >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. > > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
Re: [LU] Stoke
"All we can do is win and hope"...indeed. But then there's the conundrum of DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO UP? This season has been SO enjoyable! And I was watching Sheff U's pathetic attempt to match Arsenal the other night with so much schadenfreudesque pleasurebut there was a nagging thought in the back of my mind that that could be us next season. The problem is, obviously, that if we don't go up, all the players who have made this season so enjoyable will (understandably) want to leave. On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:45 AM Ted wrote: > As usual, a great assessment Dave, agree with everything. > > On the way home, the radio Leeds team saw it differently and seemed to > think we were always in control! Didn't look like that to me in the 2nd > half from NE Upper! > > 3 points is all that matters at this stage tho, all we can do is win and > hope! > > Ted H > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
Re: [LU] Stoke
As usual, a great assessment Dave, agree with everything. On the way home, the radio Leeds team saw it differently and seemed to think we were always in control! Didn't look like that to me in the 2nd half from NE Upper! 3 points is all that matters at this stage tho, all we can do is win and hope! Ted H ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
Re: [LU] Stoke
Totally agree Dave. If we win we win! Last weekend may be the non-win that our season pivits on. Thanks for your report, they are always appreciated! Betty On 06/03/2024 11:02, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote: sheff Wednesday is a ' must-win" , mind you aren't they all at this stage? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
Re: [LU] Stoke
The pattern of that match was v similar to the Plymouth home cuptie. In the 2nd half they started to press and with a 1-0 lead Farke evidently instructed Meslier not to pass out from the back, but the succession of long balls just kept giving them the ball back. Thankfully the difference was that they didn't score this time! Re the timewasting, the thing that gets me is the amount of time the keeper stands with the ball in his hands. He is supposed to release it before 6 secs but it is a rule universally ignored by refs. Apparently, FIFA have finally noticed and they're planning to give the keeper 2 more secs but enforce the rule and give the attacking team a throwin or a corner as a penalty. Excellent idea in my view, but it won't come in for a while yet, if ever. (The current penalty, if it was ever called, is an indirect freekick in the box, and apparently refs don't want to give that as it is too extreme.) On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:03 AM nattan--- via Leedslist < leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > Following the absolute ecstasy of the Leicester game, this was absolute > relief, especially as the literal last kick of the game was a brilliant > chance to them inside the area , poorly struck and well saved by Mes. All > game we wanted ( and felt we needed that second to ensure the 3 pts. > First half was comfortable, with stoke offering nothing bar one long > range shot by Lewis baker that Mes tipped over. Their keeper on the other > hand was having a blinder- lucky to get away with a foul on the excellent > Dan James which should have been a penalty, then unlucky with the goal, > another deflected shot finding its way in, this time by James. He saved > well twice from James, once from Bamford after a lovely chipped pass by > Georginio ( who also headed over), as we totally dominated the first half. > Second half was a totally different proposition as we started to look > leggy and tired , losing our zest, and they took some control, and suddenly > Meslier was the much busier keeper. The second half was best illustrated > when their lad skipped past Ampadu but shot straight at Mes . " thats the > first time ive seen someone skin Ampadu all season " was my sons comment. > We were not exactly hanging on but we were under the cosh and > unfortunately we could not get the second despite the best efforts of the > impressive Matteo Josep, on for Bamford, he did well to win the ball and > round the keeper but could not get real purchase on his shot that was > cleared on the line. His next effort just fizzed by the far post. James > also had a chance when one on one with the keeper but shot straight into > the keepers face. The sending off of their lad for a 2nd yellow did not > affect much as stoke continued to control the game and looked for an > equaliser. Thankfully due to poor finishing, good goal keeping and > resolute defending we kept them out for the 3pts we needed ( f**king > Ipswich ruining our happiness on the bus back to leeds as they turned 1-2 > into 3-2 - leif davis's name being shouted down the bus as he got their > winner)We need to win on Friday and then the players can take a well earned > few days off, its been relentless but there is no room for slip ups and > sheff Wednesday is a ' must-win" , mind you aren't they all at this stage? > On a different point any refs on here know the rules re time wasting ? > They wasted time ( not quite Huddersfield standard) from the first minute, > the keeper taking an age over everything but the ref just ignored it all, > then half way through the second half Mes did the same and suddenly the ref > is hurrying him up and pointing at his watch. Is it only something the ref > cares about if a team are winning or in the last 15 minutes? It is > something that has been very noticeable this season > Anyway, another 3 pts, more relief than joy but the wheels keep on > churning. The players just need to keep going and find that last bit of > energy > Dave > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
[LU] Stoke
Following the absolute ecstasy of the Leicester game, this was absolute relief, especially as the literal last kick of the game was a brilliant chance to them inside the area , poorly struck and well saved by Mes. All game we wanted ( and felt we needed that second to ensure the 3 pts. First half was comfortable, with stoke offering nothing  bar one long range shot by Lewis baker that Mes tipped over. Their keeper on the other hand was having a blinder- lucky to get away with a foul on the excellent Dan James which should have been a penalty, then unlucky with the goal, another deflected shot finding its way in, this time by James. He saved well twice from James, once from Bamford after a lovely chipped pass by Georginio ( who also headed over), as we totally dominated the first half. Second half was a totally different proposition as we started to look leggy and tired , losing our zest, and they took some control, and suddenly Meslier was the much busier keeper. The second half was best illustrated when their lad skipped past Ampadu but shot straight at Mes . " thats the first time ive seen someone skin Ampadu all season " was my sons comment. We were not exactly hanging on but we were under the cosh and unfortunately we could not get the second despite the best efforts of the impressive Matteo Josep, on for Bamford, he did well to win the ball and round the keeper but could not get real purchase on his shot that was cleared on the line. His next effort just fizzed by the far post. James also had a chance when one on one with the keeper but shot straight into the keepers face. The sending off of their lad for a 2nd yellow did not affect much as stoke continued to control the game and looked for an equaliser. Thankfully due to poor finishing, good goal keeping and resolute defending we kept them out for the 3pts we needed ( f**king Ipswich ruining our happiness on the bus back to leeds as they turned 1-2 into 3-2 - leif davis's name being shouted down the bus as he got their winner)We need to win on Friday and then the players can take a well earned few days off, its been relentless but there is no room for slip ups and sheff Wednesday is a ' must-win" , mind you aren't they all at this stage? On a different point any refs on here know the rules re time wasting ? They wasted time ( not quite Huddersfield standard) from the first minute, the keeper taking an age over everything but the ref just ignored it all, then half way through the second half Mes did the same and suddenly the ref is hurrying him up and pointing at his watch. Is it only something the ref cares about if a team are winning or in the last 15 minutes? It is something that has been very noticeable this season Anyway, another 3 pts, more relief than joy but the wheels keep on churning. The players just need to keep going and find that last bit of energy Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P.
