Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2013-03-08 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello Bekim, 

Bekim Kajtazi writes: 


In relation to the "Legit", yes, your not the first one to raise this
question. I would be happy if you or someone within OSM community can
provide an example of Legit or Not Legit topo map as a source, if not for
this case then at least for the future.


Most topo maps are NOT suitable as a source for the use in OpenStreetMap. 
Not even when drawing (copying) the geometry by hand. 

An exception would be if we have permission from the copyright holder to do 
so (then document it!) or the map is out of copyright. This period differs, 
but as a rule of thumb you could assume something between 50 and 100 years 
depending on your legislation. 


More details in the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps 


which also lists other potential datasources:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources 


Stephan

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2013-03-08 Thread Bekim Kajtazi
Hi Simon,

In relation to the "Legit", yes, your not the first one to raise this
question. I would be happy if you or someone within OSM community can
provide an example of Legit or Not Legit topo map as a source, if not for
this case then at least for the future.

Regarding the data itself, of course I still have the SHP File, I do fully
intend to start complementing OSM for Kosova and the region once the Dev.
Seed is done with the new tool they're working on. I think it'll make it a
lot easier then.

Best,
Bekim


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:

>
> Am 07.03.2013 17:20, schrieb Bekim Kajtazi:
>
>
>
> To help understand better, this is how data got into OSM:
> I digitized the data from topo maps
> Shared the SHP File with FLOSSK in Prishtina
> FLOSSK recruited many volunteers to get the data in OSM
> Few months later data was removed from OSM
>
> Anyway, unless there is a way to get some of that data back into the map,
> then I don't see any benefit of continuing this conversation.
>
>  Assuming a) the topo maps are a legit source (out of copyright or
> explicit permission) and b) you still have the SHP files, sure it is still
> possible (and if it is just by providing the files as an overlay which is
> preferable to an import anyway).
>
> From the mails it would seem as if you do not actually have an OSM account
> or at least you were not involved with the importing yourself, then I can
> only point back to the importers. They would have had it in their hands to
> document the import properly, provide support during the licence change if
> explicit permission for further use was necessary and so on.
>
> Simon
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