Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:57, Tom Hughes wrote: > The point is not that we don't need to explain how attribution is handled > but rather that we don't need to mention that it's a change because a new > user has no knowledge of previous arrangements. > > In other words the first sentence of the last paragraph is not needed for a > new user. Agreed. I misunderstood your post. I've changed the wording of the last paragraph: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable&diff=473831&oldid=473827 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On 14/05/10 22:53, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > The attribution part is there because of section #4 of the contributor > terms: > > 4. At Your or the copyright holder’s option, OSMF agrees to > attribute You or the copyright holder. A mechanism will be > provided, currently a web page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution > > They apply whether you're a new user or not. I don't see any reason > why new users would care less about attribution than users that have > signed up in the past. The point is not that we don't need to explain how attribution is handled but rather that we don't need to mention that it's a change because a new user has no knowledge of previous arrangements. In other words the first sentence of the last paragraph is not needed for a new user. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 20:19, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > If the legal cabal doesn't disapprove of this (and hopefully, > approves) I can submit patches against the website to include this in > the relevant signup form. I've now changed[1] the signup form in my branch: before: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/6/6c/Contributor-terms.png after: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/fd/New-contributor-terms.png The wording in the patch is just a snapshot from the wiki. The patch will obviously have to be updated to incorporate any changes in the summary. 1. http://github.com/avar/openstreetmap-website/compare/master...topic/human-readable-contributor-terms ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:36, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 14/05/10 21:19, Ęvar Arnfjörš Bjarmason wrote: > >> I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor >> terms on the wiki: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable >> >> The wording can doubtless be improved (please do so!), and maybe >> there's something more to cover. Let's try to keep it short though. > > The current wording appears to have been written in a way that is aimed at > existing contributors rathera than new contributors, who are the only people > being shown the terms currently. Patches welcome! Seriously, I'm not a native speaker and the text can be improved in lots of little (and big) ways. The intent with the "OpenStreetMap is now moving away" part was to provide some summary, but maybe that's not necessary. > New users don't need to know that [...] that attribution is handled > differently [...]. The attribution part is there because of section #4 of the contributor terms: 4. At Your or the copyright holder’s option, OSMF agrees to attribute You or the copyright holder. A mechanism will be provided, currently a web page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution They apply whether you're a new user or not. I don't see any reason why new users would care less about attribution than users that have signed up in the past. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On 14/05/10 21:19, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor > terms on the wiki: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable > > The wording can doubtless be improved (please do so!), and maybe > there's something more to cover. Let's try to keep it short though. The current wording appears to have been written in a way that is aimed at existing contributors rathera than new contributors, who are the only people being shown the terms currently. New users don't need to know that we're making a change, or that attribution is handled differently - they just need to know how things work now, not how they used to work. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
Am 14.05.2010 22:19, schrieb Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable That's a half sentence on the licenses and five sentences on potential license changes. I'm not sure that is going to be the main concern of people who are new to the project and are just signing up. > If the legal cabal doesn't disapprove of this (and hopefully, > approves) I can submit patches If it goes on the signup page, we should check with the lawyer first. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor > terms on the wiki: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable > Interesting. I just noticed the contents are going to be DbCL (effectively, public domain). I guess that means the entire database will be public domain in places (like the US) which don't have a separate database right. Cool. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
