[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC||todven...@suomi24.fi Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #9 from Buovjaga --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 107679 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #8 from Kevin --- Created attachment 133795 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133795&action=edit further documentation of user-unfriendly UI -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #7 from Kevin --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #6) > I reported the same issue (bug 107679). It's supposed to be a feature =) > > You can click on the gray line to choose a new border style (first click), Here's that "feature =)" in action: 1. click on an empty cell with no formatting 2. set the border style to a fat red line 3. click until the border is shown as a grey line 4. okay the dialog nada ... no border is applied The user is given the ability to turn a line grey - and forced to always click through this option - and yet there is no case that I've found where said cumbersome option actually does anything. It's like walking into a dark room, but to get to the light switch, you have to first switch on two other switches but don't do anything other than give you access to the functional light switch. I understand why Calc would SHOW me a grey line and what it means; I don't understand why Calc gives me the ability to turn a line grey and forces me to make this decision every single time I need to remove a border - a border that Calc has put there against my will because it fails to implement Excel's wonder ability to "paste copied cells" above or below, thus allowing the user to control border formatting in bulk and not have use the format cells/border dialog every time to remove the unwanted additions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 Telesto changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tele...@surfxs.nl --- Comment #6 from Telesto --- I reported the same issue (bug 107679). It's supposed to be a feature =) As Buovjaga stated: http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/WG4.2/PDF/WG4209-WorkingWithTables.pdf Page 13: "When the selected cells have different styles of border the User-defined area shows the border as a gray line. You can click on the gray line to choose a new border style (first click), leave the border as it is (second click) or delete the border (third click)." Could it be made somehow more obvious? Personally, this is news to me. Let's circle this through the UX meatgrinder. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #5 from Kevin --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4) > Please read chapter "User Defined Borders in Cells" in the help. Here's what it says: "A gray line is shown when the corresponding line of the selected cells will not be changed. No line will be set or removed at this position." First, it says "cells", plural - only one cell is selected. Second, and more importantly, there is no line to remove and as the Help file tells us: "no line will be set or removed at this position". In other words, the grey line is not something that the user should be able to "set". The grey line should be SHOWN, to inform the user, but should not be present in the sequence of states that occurs as you repeatedly click on the corresponding line location. If the grey line is there, the user should be able to click it to make it go away, but there's no logical reason for the user to click where there is no grey line in order to place one there. If I'm missing something, please explain to me what the difference is when I am editing a single cells with no borders and I choose between white and grey? If there's no difference, why is it showing me grey as a choice. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 Regina Henschel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de --- Comment #4 from Regina Henschel --- Please read chapter "User Defined Borders in Cells" in the help. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #3 from Kevin --- To put it another way, the thick grey line is to provide the user with information. Putting the cell into a state where the thick grey line is appropriate is not something a user can do from within this dialog (and certainly not if only a single cell is selected). It's necessary for the widget to exist that makes clicking on the border a 3-state cycle, but that widget should only be presented to the user in situation where three states exist. If it's just a single cell, you can either have a border, or not have a border. Only two states of the border should be cycled through with repeated clicking. Every unnecessary click takes time, causes confusion and contributes to the development of carpal tunnel syndrome. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #2 from Kevin --- Created attachment 133774 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133774&action=edit screenshot for 108276 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108276] UI for grey lines in Format Cells/ Border allows illogical and confusing settings
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108276 --- Comment #1 from Kevin --- Created attachment 133773 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133773&action=edit spreadsheet includes steps - 108276 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs