[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.1 RC2 test builds available for smoketesting

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

for 3.6.1 RC2, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
they're available. Grab them here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the
release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
feedback.

The list of fixed bugs vs. 3.6.1 RC1 is available here

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.1.2.log

, it would be nice to verify they're really fixed in the build.

Thanks a lot for your help,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.1 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.1. The upcoming 3.6.1 will be the first
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.1 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.1 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.1/RC2

The list of fixed bugs relative to 3.6.1 RC1 is here:

  
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.1.2.log

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Attending:
+ Andras, Rainer, Norbert, Stephan, Cedric, Eike,
  Caolan, Petr, Cloph, Mitch, Kohei, Lionel, Björn, Astron,
  Cedric, Thorsten 

* Completed Action Items
+ file LibreOffice conference papers (lots)
+ kick/re-start MING / Win-7 tinderbox (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
+ 4.0 issues (Everyone)
+ everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC!
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
* review: Windows release binaries produced using MinGW
* review: Get rid of Berkeley DB files
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz)
+ re-think our bundled font list (Astron / design-team)

* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ all students remaining after mid-term passed successfully
AI: + invite successful students to come to the conference

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6.1 release
  * out - most of the annoying bugs fixed
+ 3.6.2 rc1 - September 10th
+ 3.5.7 rc1 - September 17th
  - deadline for 3.7.1 rc1 the same date as 3.7.0 final

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ call skipped last week

* gerrit -> freedesktop migration retrospective (Norbert)
+ looks like a smooth transition
+ helpful queries to act upon every few days (Björn):
  - newcomer patches w/o attention:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-label:code-review+-reviewerin:Committers+branch:master+project:core,n,z
  - cherrypick requests for release branches:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-branch:master+project:core,n,z
  - abandon patches with negatives:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+label:code-review%253C%253D-1+-change:Ie702c371,n,z
AI: (can only be done by owner or gerrit admin)
AI  + put the above things into the wiki (Björn)

* QA update (Rainer)
+ HardHacks:

  ID  OS  Component - Summary
  
  38913   Windows Libreoffice - CRASH when loading Danish dictionary at
   startup citing msvcr90.dll after upgrade
  32948   Linux   Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source
   Wizard fails with message "No SDBC driver was found"
  34548   All Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo
  36681   All Writer - EDITING: after insert/removal of a picture (or
   alike) view scrolls to begin/end of document
  33302   Mac Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and
   brackets "(...) [...]" inverted to ")...( ]...["
   with some fonts
+ 36681 fixed by Cedric
AI: + 33302 Mac -> Thorsten
+ 32948 Lionel?
AI: + 38913 -> Stephan/Rainer to distill/research somewhat better.
+ summary statements desirable for bugs with lots of comments /
  additional precondition before naming them hardhacks

* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)

* late feature request for 3.6.2 (Eike)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/511 - nods in the ESC, 3
  approvals needed from differently affiliated people
+ Cedric nominates Writer header/footer fix as another potential
AI:   late feature, notify QA list of need for testing here

* dictionary bundling (Stephan)
+ see 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-August/037671.html
* consolidate dictionary installation across platforms
* change msi installer scripts to cut down number of dicts,
AI:   according to system locale (Stephan)

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 27 (of 96) older 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21
  28%   29%   26%   19%   22%   23%   19%  27%   31%   19%  24%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 73 open (of 258) older 73/257 76/256 75/253 77/253 73/250 72/249 67/244 
70/243 73/241
  26% 28%30% 30%30%29%29%27%
29%30%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 171(+4) bugs open of 774(+23) total

* ~Component   count net *
+ Writer   - 76 (+7)
+ Crashes  - 18 (-2)
+ Presentation - 18 (+0)
+ Database - 15 (+1)
+ LibreOffice  - 14 (+1)
+ Migration- 11 (-1)
+ Drawing  - 12 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet  - 9  (+0)
+ Borders  - 11 (+3)
+ Writer / RTF - 4  (+0)
+ Basic- 3  (+1)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.2. The upcoming 3.6.2 will be the second
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.2 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.2/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.7. The upcoming 3.5.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.5 code line. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC1 is not yet ready for production
use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the beta quality is to run some specific manual
tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.5.7 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.7/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

-- 
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.2. The upcoming 3.6.2 will be the second
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.2 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.2/RC2

If no showstopper bugs are found, this 3.6.2 RC2 is slated to become
3.6.2 final - see our release schedule for that branch:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.6_release

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] Release 3.5.7 RC1 as final (was: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC1 test builds available)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Fridrich Strba wrote:
> Builds are now being uploaded to a public (but non-mirrored - so don't
> spread news too widely!) place, as soon as they're available. Grab
> them here:
> 
>  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
> 
There were no bugs reported against this version, and we see no
pending patches nor any commits on this branch - suggestion
therefore is to skip RC2 and declare RC1 final.

Any violent objection needs to be accompanied by a patch - currently
RC2 would be binary identical to RC1. ;)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Wish you a nice QA Weekend!

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
> But now I wish you all a nice weekend in Essen, full of astonishing
> insights, nice talks, good feeling, and fun! Greetings to all!
> 
Hi Roman, all,

thank you - a pity you couldn't be there, maybe next time? And
here's just a little recap of the topics discussed:

 * parallel install / server install howto
 * bibisect
 * hardhacks
 * QA community building
 * QA processes & howtos
 * time-based releases
 * QA roundtable

(in parallel folks where teaming up to get the LibOCon site and
programme ready - which also greatly benefitted from low-latency
communication aka face2face meeting ;))

I'm sure Florian Reisinger can fill in more blanks here; my kudos to
him for running the show there!

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bibisect fro windows

[Thorsten Behrens]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Norbert Thiebaud schrieb:
> >Using W2008R2_20-With-Symbol-Bytemark-Hosting I've been building a
> >bibisect repo for windows. I've collected 66 version so far. the repo
> >is 436MB
> 
> It would be great if someone with more experience than me would try
> Norbert's repository. Do we have a user who knows Linux + Win and
> already did some bibisecting, so that he can assist interested WIN
> users?
> 
We played with that at the QA weekend, and personally I'd say it is
_very_ useful. Especially since the portability of the Linux
bibisects is rather limited.

Two things to note:

 * having 'speaking' names for the first and last version, like
   'latest' and 'oldest' like for the ubuntu ones, would be nice.
   The commit sha1s are sort of unwieldy.
 * it needs windows testers able to operate git over command line. A
   nice step-by-step guide or even screencast would be mandatory I
   think. As a client, I'd recommend http://git-scm.com/download/win

For the final repo, depending on the final sizes, it would be lovely
to have some exponential backoff for older versions. If 3.4 and 3.3
builds are too much of a hassle, could we then please simply add all
our canned binaries from
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ ?

(I can provide you with old betas & RCs on request)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending:  Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus,
Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron,
Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy

* Completed Action Items
+ simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M)
  
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers
+ many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins.
+ issues to look into if we can
+ HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric)
+ now back-ported to 3.6
+ HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction 
(Michael S)
+ HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus)
+ fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan)
+ fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review)
+ superseded by patch 629 ibid.
+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy 
(Michael)
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ complete but takes 24 hours
+ gerrit add: private//branches (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job 
(Kendy)
+ script written, testing it for deployment
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill)
+ 3.6.2 retrospective
+ released
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ accidentally skipped / discuss next week.
+ 3.5.7 retrospective
+ rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression
+ more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release
* 3.6.3 rc1
+ monday deadline for fixes
+ branch on tuesday - then three reviews
+ tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend
+ reconsider schedule on monday

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ unchanged
+ no chat last week

* Saxon split-out (DTardon)
+ xslt export filters (java, saxon based)
+ new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter)
+ for possible backward compat, still ship saxon
+ drop saxon from install
+ don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension
+ where to put the extension ?
+ package on extensions.libro
+ source code outside core repos
+ decision: David to go ahead with this

* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue.
+ topics for an extended agenda appreciated ...
+ your pitch for sanity here :-)

**  PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH  **

+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference
+ speakers please just enter "No" for have you paid;
  that is a valid option.

AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms)

* git submodules / rename (Norbert)
+ code-wise done, features/submodules branch
+ does it work when you go across the migration?
+ testings appreciated!
+ doc writing in progress
+ once doc is done, when to do that?
+ each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that
  means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to
  manipulate the patch
+ proposed submodule migration at the conference.

* bibisect goodness (Norbert)
+ experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds,
  resulting repo is 2.1G -> too big
+ collect only once a day
+ collecting the windows ones too
+ 700M - builds are less frequent
+ an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits

* sysadmin contract / work ...
AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern)

* distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael)
+ want to get our product work into public git
+ all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for 
all
+ since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise
+ problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per 
release
+ is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ?
+ normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)
 

[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.7. The upcoming 3.5.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.5 code line. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC2 is not yet ready for production
use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the beta quality is to run some specific manual
tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.5.7 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.7/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending: Joel, Fridrich, Thorsten, Eike, Andras, Caolan, Kendy,
   David, Mirek, Kohei, Cedric, Rodo, Andras, Astron, 
   Michael S.

* Completed Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
  + done/expired
+ mail thb/sweetshark for a cheap Berlin / hotel room
  + done
+ push distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch (Andras)
  + done

* Pending Action Items
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy)
+ script written, deploy it
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
+ fdo#51023 - impress D&D crasher - (Radek)
+ ping Tollef wrt. sysadmin work (Bjoern)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred)
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ fdo#55560 / fdo#52022 needs fixing before general update
+ upgrade 3.5.0-3.5.1 to 3.6.2 though, those versions are
  clearly inferior.
+ 3.5.7 status
+ 3.5.7 rc2 built (fixes docx crasher), due next week
+ 3.6.3 rc1 status
+ builds running, mirror push tomorrow
+ rc2 22nd of october (fdo#55560 needs fixing!)

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ gtk3 prototype
+ interesting food for thought
+ icons for new conditional formats in cells ... (pending)
+ no chat this week, handling happens on the list

* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 local time at the venue.

* QA update (Joel)
+ HardHack list moved to wiki - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
  - updates / assignments appreciated there
+ 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some
  don't seem to be valid most annoying)
+ some thoughts around another 3.5 release

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
+ fdo#55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon)
+ fdo#55560 - CRASH when Format Cells (menu and Context menu) 
(Fridrich/Kohei)
+ fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
+ fdo#55685 - CRASH when create or modify Character Style or Paragraph 
Style (fixed by Caolan)
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* Open HardHacks
+ fdo#50285 - Saving document as .doc introduces bogus superscript text

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 27 (of 127) older 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 
11/58
  21%32%34%34%35% 33%   28%   29%   26%   
19%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 78 open (of 278) older 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257
  28% 29%29%30%30%30%26%28%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 185(+6) bugs open of 853(+20) total

* ~Component   count net *
+ Writer   - 80 (-1)
+ Crashes  - 21 (+3)
+ Presentation - 18 (+1)
+ LibreOffice  - 13 (-1)
+ Borders  - 13 (+0)
+ Drawing  - 13 (+0)
+ Database - 14 (+1)
+ Migration- 6  (-4)
+ Spreadsheet  - 15 (+6)
+ Writer / RTF - 3  (+1)
+ Basic- 2  (+0)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] LDTP now works for Linux, Win & Mac

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

seen this today -

 
http://nagappanal.blogspot.de/2012/10/ann-automated-testing-on-mac-atomac-101.html

Did anyone have experience (positive & negative) with that tool?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.3. The upcoming 3.6.3 will be the third
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.3 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.3/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LDTP now works for Linux, Win & Mac

[Thorsten Behrens]

Terrence Enger wrote:
> I have played with it a little bit, and it looks really neat.
> Thoughts arising ...
> 
Hi Terrence,

thanks a lot for looking into this -

> (3) That start-and-end, with nothing in between, takes about 28
> seconds.  My admittedly wimpy machine could do that about 3000
> times a day.  This does not bode well for heavy use of the tool.
> 
That would be probably acceptable - since tasks could be distributed
over many people?

> (4) The "usually" in point (1) troubles me.  One execution can produce
> 14 levels of stack trace leading from my program statement `ldtp
> import *` to message "socket.error: [Errno 111] Connection
> refused".  Subsequent executions do the expected start-and-end.
> My newbie instinct shouts "timing issue".  So, the next part of
> the learning curve will be steeper.
> 
That is a downer indeed - the last thing you want is unreliable
tests. Curious how much of that is due to the usage of the
accessibility API. Which platform / versions were you using again?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.6.3.2 tag created

[Thorsten Behrens]

Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> > Norbert, is there any chance that you provide the build after all?
> > I am sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> I physically cannot.
> The box is in Dallas, and there is no remove access to it.
> 
No prob, got network & some time to sit today - builds are running.

Cheers,

-- 

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.3. The upcoming 3.6.3 will be the third
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.3 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.3/RC2

If no showstopper bugs are found, this 3.6.3 RC2 is slated to become
3.6.3 final - see our release schedule for that branch:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.3_release

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ToDos rename 3.7 to 4.0

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
> But there is a problem: at least on a quick check, I get the
> impression that LOdev does NOT migrate any settings from the
> /LOdev/3/user to the /LOdev/4/user/ profile -- not even the general
> settings, like my user name, or the selected JRE appear in
> /LOdev/4/user/ profile. It seems that the new (4) user profile is
> created from scratch, without attempting to copy any data from the
> old (3) user profile folder.
> 
I Cc Stephan & Cedric, who IIRC both mentioned intention to work on
profile migration.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.4 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.4. The upcoming 3.6.4 will be the fourth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.4 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.4 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.4/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No daily/master builds for Mac OS X ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
> again both
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/MacOSX-Intel@1-built_no-moz_on_10.6.8/
> and
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/MacOSX-Intel@27-OSX_10.7.0-gcc_4.2.1_llvm/master/
> do not provide up-to-date master builds (the last build is dated
> 2012-11-28).
> 
Sorry, we had some build breakages on this platform - if you look at 

 http://tinderbox.libreoffice.org/MASTER/status.html

, red tinderboxes be definition can't produce daily builds.

Since yesterday, I have taken the @27 box to do a late feature,
sorry for that - we could surely do with a few more mac boxes going
forward.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No daily/master builds for Mac OS X ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
> >Since yesterday, I have taken the @27 box to do a late feature,
> >sorry for that -
> 
> Right now, @27 is green. Does this mean that I can get a new daily
> build again? Or is @27 doing something else?
> 
Yeps, set this box on to the libreoffice-4-0 branch, hope there's a
daily soon - the successful master build failed to upload, I tweaked
the push script locally, let's see if that helps (upload
connectivity seems to be a tad flaky on that box)

> > we could surely do with a few more mac boxes going forward.
> 
> Definitely true. Maybe we need to change the perspective. It is not
> me who needs a new daily build; I can think of many other ways to
> spend my time besides testing LibreOffice ;-)
>
Roman, I wasn't suggesting anything else. ;) Your help is much
appreciated!

In fact, I've posted a request for build hardware, and Mac
specifically, to Marc's budget input email a while ago.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 Beta1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce a first Beta release of
our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0, that is (almost) feature-complete. The
upcoming 4.0 will be our fifth major release in just over two years,
and comes with a nice set of new features. Please be aware that
LibreOffice 4.0 Beta1 is not ready for production use, you should
continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 Beta1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/Beta1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 Beta2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta release
of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0, that is feature-complete. The
upcoming 4.0 will be our fifth major release in just over two years,
and comes with a nice set of new features. Please be aware that
LibreOffice 4.0 Beta2 is not ready for production use, you should
continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 Beta2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/Beta2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 Beta2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

[limited x-posting]

Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> is there an Android app to control Impress, now that the Remote
> Control function is enabled in Impress GUI? Where can I find it to
> test LO? (The pop-up window for Remote does not have a Help button,
> nor do I remember any hints from Help as I translated all the strings
> already and there were no links; also I cannot close that dialog on
> OSX 10.7.5, so I need to file a bug for that).
> 
Hi Martin,

thanks a lot for looking into this - the Android App will be on a
slightly different release schedule, you can find daily builds for it
from the Android tinderbox here:

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/current/

(the ImpressRemote apk)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.5. The upcoming 3.6.5 will be the fifth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
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  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.5 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.5/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

I write:
> The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
> candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.5.
>
In case you wonder if you missed RC1 - that version was tagged, but
no binaries built and released because of a regression found very
early on. :)

Cheers,

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC3 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.5 for that.

If no showstoppers are found, RC3 is slated to become the final
version - see our release plan for more details:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC3 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Micro-Update published for Impress Remote

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi,

just pushed version 1.0.2 to the Play Store, now including 72
languages and a bugfix for

 * fdo#60487 - sdremote - load default preferences eg. volume control
   switch.

(version 1.0.1 was temporarily published, but contained a
regression).

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] Micro-Update published for Impress Remote

[Thorsten Behrens]

Zeki Bildirici wrote:
> Thanks. I've updated it . Btw you mean the Google play app page
> translation or UI translation? UI is still English and no options
> for changing the ui lang.
> 
The App UI should pick the language your phone is running - that works
here. Can you confirm the rest of your phone UI is e.g. Turkish, but
the Impress Remote still English? If yes, please file a bug, including
phone type and android version?

I've just added component "Android Impress Remote" to bugzilla for
tracking.

Thanks,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Impress Sprint Dresden - March 22nd-24th 2013

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

TDF was offered the opportunity to hold an Impress Sprint at Dresden
Technical University at the above date. I'm still currently hashing
out details, but we'll have lodging and limited travel bursaries
covered it seems.

Initial wiki page is here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013

, stay tuned for when more details get added.

Both hacker and QA participation appreciated - you'll need a laptop or
netbook with LibreOffice installed / built, and TU Dresden will
provide a range of projectors for playing / bug hunting. We will
provide mentoring and some introductory code walk-throughs - and if
you need inspiration, a short-list of easy hacks. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Fw: Regression - LO Writer 4.0

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Raymond,

until we start digging into how to fix it, I think this is more
on-topic on the QA list -> Fwd.

- Forwarded message from r_ouellette  -

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:07:29 -0800 (PST)
From: r_ouellette 
Subject: Regression - LO Writer 4.0

I'm using Writer since 2006 (it was then OpenOffice.org's version) for a
statistical document of 262 pages. You can see the result at 
http://www.mels.gouv.qc.ca/sections/publications/index.asp?page=fiche&id=67
  
-- The document is in french only.

There are more than 150 tables, all created using Calc. Each table is copied
as GDI metafile in the Writer document. I intensively use styles in the
Writer document. The tables are copied in vectorial format because they can
be resized like I want in the writer document while preserving their
original appearance. There is also a triple font substitution to avoid
embedding ttf fonts in the pdf version (Arial > Helvetica; Courier New >
Courier; Times NewRoman > Times) and Type1 fonts are used.

Up to version 3.6.x, Writer was fast and usable with close to 270 pages.
Since 4.0, I think a redraw algorithm was introduced that slowed Writer,
making it almost unusable. I must wait a too long time for each page to
redraw when I move inside the document.

Anyone else noticed this behavior?

By the way, even Calc has this redraw problem when you use the paintbrush to
apply a format from a cell to another: try to group a few cells together,
then copy the grouped cells format to another cell and the newly applied
format is not refresh immediately.

Raymond

- End forwarded message -

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.1. This will be the first in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

With this release candidate, the Android Impress Remote should work on
all platforms - if you would like to test, an updated Android package
is available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.3/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.1 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.1/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.1. This will be the first in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC2 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

With this release candidate, the Android Impress Remote should work on
all platforms - if you would like to test, an updated Android package
is available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.4/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.1 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.1/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ABANDONED] Restore menu File > Template

[Thorsten Behrens]

[new template dialog problems in 4.0.0]

Cor Nouws wrote:
> Anyway's:
>, for the open bugs, 
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi?component=filters%20and%20storage&component=framework&component=Libreoffice&component=UI&component=Writer&order=bug_id&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&query_type=advanced&short_desc=template&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&version=4.0.0.3%20release&version=4.0.1.1%20rc&version=4.0.1.2%20rc
> 
Hi Cor,

thx for the look into that - as a first question (Cc QA list), is this
list triaged enough for hackers to start poking at high-prio issues?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Impress Sprint last call (was: Re: [ANN] Impress Sprint Dresden - March 22nd-24th 2013)

[Thorsten Behrens]

I wrote:
> TDF was offered the opportunity to hold an Impress Sprint at Dresden
> Technical University at the above date. I'm still currently hashing
> out details, but we'll have lodging and limited travel bursaries
> covered it seems.
> 
> Initial wiki page is here:
> 
>  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013
> 
> , stay tuned for when more details get added.
> 
Our host just notified me that Thursday night this week would be the
last chance to sign up for travel support and hotel rooms in
Dresden. So if you're pondering to join, make up your mind quickly -
and add yourself to the wiki page above. :)

I'll mail listed, but not yet contacted people separately with
details.

Looking forward to see you there,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.2. This will be the second
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

As usual, this update is accompanied with a new version of the Impress
Remote - if you would like to test, an updated Android package is
available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.5/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.2 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.2/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] Impress Sprint Dresden updates

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

just a quick update on $subject - added some more bits and pieces to 

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013

, most importantly some rough time table at

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013/Schedule

and a list of talks / project proposal at

 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013/Proposals

Your edits on those pages appreciated - please take the talks listed
as offers for input, feel free to add your own pet project (either one
you'd need some mentoring input for, or something you're happy to talk
about)!

I'll follow-up with the listed participants in a minute with more
pointers to resources (build howto, QA pages etc).

Looking forward to see you there,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.6. The upcoming 3.6.6 will be the sixth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.5 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.6 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.6/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.2. This will be the second
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

As usual, this update is accompanied with a new version of the Impress
Remote - if you would like to test, an updated Android package is
available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.6/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.2 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.2/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.6. The upcoming 3.6.6 will be the sixth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.5 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.6 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.6/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.3. This will be the third in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.3 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

due to a build issue on Mac, that resulted in non-working python
extensions, just pushed and published new Mac x86 install sets for
4.0.3 RC1. The source tarballs, lang packs and all other platforms
remain unmodified. Apologies for the mistake.

With kind regards,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.3. This will be the third in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC3 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

Release candidate 2 was built and is available via
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ - but
is superseded by RC3 due to a showstopper found. The list of issues
and fixed bugs for 4.0.3 RC2 is in our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC2

Whereas the list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.3 RC3 is
available from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning up QA Nabble and Archive folders from Spam?

[Thorsten Behrens]

Florian Effenberger wrote:
> IMHO, the LibreOffice lists at FreeDesktop are configured in a wrong
> way, because they allow everyone to post. I'd never ever do so on
> the TDF infrastructure, it's against any good mail practice I know
> of, but the feedback I got when noting that was that "developers
> want it that way". Well... I don't know why, but it seems I have to
> accept that, and we need to live with spam then. :-(
> 
Hi Florian, all,

I don't think there is a universally correct answer to the implied
question posed here, but a lot of personal preference.

FWIW, the dev list and other lists that needed closer interaction with
the developers back in the day were setup to be 'default-open' -
i.e. people could simply post their question there, or being Cc-ed on
mails and answer without being moderated. This has served the
developer community well over the years, ridding us of one more
barrier to entry.

Admittedly it puts some burden on moderators and permits the
occasional spam message to slip through - I believe though that we
have that well under control on the dev list.

Pending moderator approval on this list, I can happily clone the dev
list setup for this list.

All the best,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning up QA Nabble and Archive folders from Spam?

[Thorsten Behrens]

Florian Effenberger wrote:
> sorry if I sounded overly harsh - I was looking at it from a
> postmaster's perspective, where I still think this setup is just
> pure horror.
> 
That's why we run it on fdo - such that you don't have to worry. ;)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning up QA Nabble and Archive folders from Spam?

[Thorsten Behrens]

Robinson Tryon wrote:
> My general thought on lists that get spam and/or have a constant of
> new users using the list improperly is that you set everyone's
> moderation bit to be ON initially.
>
Cloned the dev list's setup for the QA list, that should help quite a
lot. Also added Florian Reisinger to the owners list for further
tweaking of the spam rules.

What will happen now is that known spam sources will have their mails
held; sadly every once in a while that will also hit legitimate
posters (when using the same provider), so some attention from the
list moderators still appreciated.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first Beta release
of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our sixth major
release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 Beta1 is not ready yet
for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for
that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 Beta1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/Beta1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.4. This will be the fourth
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.4 RC1 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.4/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] suse appliance image for CMIS / WebDAV testing

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

Cedric rocks & created a SUSE studio appliance (ready-to-run Linux
install) with Alfresco pre-configured.

You can find it here, including details on how to run/access it:

 http://susestudio.com/a/ZAkznE/alfresco

That hopefully makes testing this fairly new and important area much
easier.

Thanks a lot,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta release
of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our sixth major
release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 Beta2 is not ready yet
for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for
that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 Beta2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/Beta2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.4. This will be the fourth
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.4 RC2 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.4/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC1 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.7 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.7. The upcoming 3.6.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.7 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.7 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.7/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-07-04

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Attending:
Ahmad, Lionel, Eike, Petr, Caolan, Cloph, Andras, Astron,
Thorsten, Michael S.

* New Action items:
+ further improve date API for RC3 (Eike/Michael S.)

* Pending Action items:
+ get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
+ update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel)
+ get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Petr/Cloph)
+ 3.6.7 rc2 schedule
+ next monday: July 8th is the deadline for rc2
+ should be the very last release ...
+ 4.1.0 rc2 status
+ mirror push ongoing, with fix for signing on windows
+ 4.1.0 rc3 schedule
+ should be the very last release ...
+ on july 15th, triple review needed

* Spreadsheet announcement / performance work
+ 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/07/03/amd-joins-the-document-foundation-advisory-board-to-accelerate-libreoffice/
+ laying foundations for further SIMD/UMA/openCL speedups in Calc
+ ongoing work towards 4.2 by Kohei et al.

* UX input (Astron)
+ looking into side panel for 4.1
+ otherwise all set for 4.1, svg reader regressed in master for
  about box background

* date API (Lionel/Michael S./Eike)
+ attempt incremental improvement on top of 4.1 api change
+ if possible in time for 4.1, to avoid changing again in 4.2
AI  + eike/mst to work on a fix towards rc3

* UI conversion (Caolan)
+ dialogs converted to new glade UI to date: 275

* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 0/0
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 7 (of 48) older 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16
15%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 12 (of 134) older 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129
 9%  9% 9% 12%11%13%14%13%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 60 (of 241) older 57/238 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229
 25% 24%27%28%29%30%31%32%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 36 (of 122) older 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 
30/90 28/88
http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 294(-3) bugs open of 1697(+27) total

* ~Component   count net *
Writer - 94 (-5)
   Spreadsheet - 27 (+3)
  Presentation - 27 (-2)
   Crashes - 23 (-3)
   Libreoffice - 26 (+0)
  Database - 25 (+1)
   Drawing - 18 (-2)
   Borders - 14 (+0)
 Migration -  3 (+0)
 BASIC -  2 (+0)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC2 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC3 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

Provided no showstoppers are found, no further release candidates are
planned.

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC3 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Possible blocker (data loss) :
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67093
> 
Hi Jean-Baptiste,

hmm - so that bug is specific to the French localization?

> Sincerely, I think that fdo#67093 + fdo#67031 + fdo#67041 will make
> LO 4.1.0.3 very difficult to defend.
>
fdo#67031 + fdo#67041 are being hotfixed as we speak. :)

And thanks a lot for raising awareness!

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

I wrote:
> fdo#67031 + fdo#67041 are being hotfixed as we speak. :)
> 
New debs available here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/deb/

, if someone could confirm the above two bugs are fixed there, I'll
replace the packages on the mirrors.

Thanks a lot,

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 test builds available for smoketesting

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

QA found a number of problems that were initially addressed via a
hotfix for the Linux packages, but then resulted in a fully new build
today - we're now uploading builds of LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 to a
public (but non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as
soon as they're available. Grab them here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
bugs, especially regressions relative to prior RCs here, so we can
incorporate them into the release notes. Please note that it takes
approximately 24 hours to populate the mirrors, so that's about the
time we have to collect feedback.

The list of fixed bugs vs. 4.1.0 RC3 is available here

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-1-0-release-4.1.0.4.log

I'd like to especially ask QA volunteers from the following locales,
to please verify the fix of fdo#67093:

as
bg
br
gl
lt
pt-BR
pt
ru
sv
te
uk
zh-CN
zh-TW

Thanks a lot for your help,

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the fourth release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC4 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

Provided no showstoppers are found, no further release candidates are
planned.

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC4 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending: Sophie, Tibby, Kohei, Astron, Norbert, Lionel, Bjoern,
   Joel, Cloph, Petr, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
+ fdo#60858 needs input (Astron)
+ file svg / help->about issue in master as 4.2 MAB (Astron)

* Pending Action Items:
+ improve configure to avoid versioning mistakes (Cloph)
+ come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (Rene, Bjoern,
  Petr)
  - some discussion around this issue, publishing plain tarballs
has the rather unacceptable drawback that menu integration is
missing
  - distro packages (for widely-deployed distro versions) usually
not available at the time of upstream release
+ rotate easy hacks on 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks (Joel)
  - first demo up from Robinson:
http://testing.eagleeyet.net/mw/index.php/EasyHacks
+ polish & push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric)
  - ongoing
+ take a look at the gerrit migration (Norbert)
  - ongoing, waiting for migration to new vm
+ dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0.5 rc1 status
  - ongoing, needed Win32 & Linux build box setups. PPC is missing
still.
+ 4.1.1 rc1 commit deadline Aug 5th
+ Writer / style translation issue evil status (Cedric)
AI: * Cloph to poke andras wrt. translation updates / README
AI: + Impress autoplay feature -> deferred to 4.1.2 (Thorsten)
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4998 - needs triple review

* when to update the on-line update code (Michael)
AI: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy)
AI: + propose download updates from inside LibO as GSoC idea (Astron)

* API date issue (Lionel/Stephan)
+ patches pending on gerrit for -4-1
AI: + review & get them in before Monday:
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5245

* QA update (Joel)

+ French BSA update
  * thx to Robinson / Sophie!
  * 6 reports so far
  * Sophie thinks it'll pick up in September

+ Contest result blog
  * http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/contest-results/

+ QA netbook blog
  * 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/08/01/libreoffice-qa-volunteers-armed-and-ready/

+ Bibisected but not fixed (current count 51)
  * 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=328050&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

+ Closing 3.6 MABs
  * Tommy did that, thanks a lot!

+ MAB handling:
  * by next major release, merge into single list
  * instead of individual mails, get daily MAB digest (Bjoern)
  * every 4-5 months, cleanse older, not-so-critical unfixed bugs
from MAB list

+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+217-148(+69 overall)
 many thanks to the top five bug squashers:
   Urmas  15
   Cor Nouws  14
   ign_christian  11
   Jesus Corrius  7
   Lionel Elie Mamane 7

* UX input (Astron)

+ happy about new image and text toolbar from GSoC
+ looking into about:config UI now

* Extra items:
+ suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome (Bjoern)

* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 2/2 2/2 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17
   12%  17%   5%   14%  15%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129
 10%   9%   9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 33/128 33/125 34/124 34/123 36/122 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105
http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 301(+10) bugs open of 1801(+39) total
* ~Component   count net *
Writer - 94 (+0)
   Libreoffice - 32 (+3)
   Spreadsheet - 30 (+0)
   Crashes - 24 (+0)
  Presentation - 24 (+0)
  Database - 23 (+0)
   Drawing - 14 (+1)
   Borders - 13 (-1)
 Migration -  4 (+0)
 BASIC -  2 (+0)
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01

[Thorsten Behrens]

Tommy wrote:
> >+ Closing 3.6 MABs
> >  * Tommy did that, thanks a lot!
> 
> not yet finished, it will take more weeks to complete...
> when I started the review 62 MABs were present, actually the count
> is at 49.
> 
Thank you still! :)

> >+ MAB handling:
> >  * by next major release, merge into single list
> 
> do you mean that when 4.2.0 is out, all the 4.0 and 4.1 and 4.2 MABs
> will be merged?
> do you think about a single 4.x MAB page and then a 5.x MAB?
> 
The proposal was to have a single MAB list, with the bug version field
then indicating (as usual) the first version this was encountered.

> actully the open count for 4.0 MAB is 25 bugs, because of some 3.6
> MABs that I moved there.
> why do you have a smaller number?
> 
Did not re-generate the stats before sending out the minutes, sorry.

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.5. This will be the fifth in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

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Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

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A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.5 RC1 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.5/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.1 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.1.1. The upcoming 4.1.1 will be the first
in a sequence of frequent bugfix release for our feature-packed 4.1
line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1.1 RC1 is not ready yet for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

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specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.1 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.1/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending: Caolan, Christian, David, Eike, Kendy, Kohei, Lionel,
   Michael S., Norbert, Petr, Robinson, Stephan, Thorsten,
   Tim, Tsahi

* Completed Action Items:
+ add 'download updates from inside LibO' to GSoC wiki page (Astron)
+ come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (retired, Petr
  fixed a set of regressions in 4.1.1)
+ polish & push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric)
+ send details / howto to have patches with their author's name
  submitted to Tsahi (Michael)

* New Action Items:
+ roll out Easy Hack rotation, incrementally improve afterwards (Robinson)
+ introduce interested people into update service maintenance (Kendy)
+ poke fdo admins for own BZ instance (Thorsten)

* Pending Action Items:
+ dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric)
+ upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy)
+ create i18n tool to ensure style issues (also unique fn names)
  don't recur fdo#67786 (Andras)
+ switch to pure sidebar mode in master - but not enabled by
  default, except in Impress (Caolan)
  - pending UX input
+ come up with a proposal on what still needs improving in sidebar
  land (Astron)
+ suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome
  (Bjoern)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.0.5 rc2
   - RC1 is published, rc2 done & pre-announced, mirror push
 ongoing
   - scheduled release next week
+ 4.1.1 rc2
+ Writer / style translation issue status (Cedric)
- commit deadline next Monday, tagging on Tuesday
* 4.1.2 RC1
- first week of September

* QA update (Robinson)
+ increase in unconfirmed bugs
  - renewed QA team effort to stay on top there

+ Regressions in 4.2
  - some regressions found in 4.2pre, need to encourage more tech
savvy users to test pre-release builds
  - Cloph: new style download page has pre-release builds
selectable
  - Robinson: use the online update to indicate there are new
pre-release builds
  - Norbert: don't publicize nightly master builds too widely
  - Thorsten: possibly pick some master builds before official
alphas, to get early feedback on new features

+ proposal to migrate bugzilla to our infra
  - Robinson: QA needs more tweaks, BZ should be tailored much
better to project needs
  - have direct admin access, timely responses
  - rename the version field label to better match our usage
  - add a number of useful extensions
  - Norbert: avoid to have QA/Users to work around limitations in
BZ, that burn time and energy
  - Thorsten: as a first step, try to get our own BZ instance at
fdo

+ Nightly build availability
  - two additional Windows builders now with nightly uploads

+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+134-96(+38 overall)
 many thanks to the top four bug squashers:
  Urmas  8
  Joel   8
  Miklos 6
  ign_christian  4

* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 15/81 13/77 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23
   19%   17%  12%   17%   5%  14%  15%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 44/171 32/157 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 
14/130
   26%20%10% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9%12%   
 11%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 41 (of 137) older ?
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 333(+?) bugs open of 1875(+?) total

* ~Component   count net *
Writer - 101 (+?)
   Spreadsheet - 44 (+?)
   Libreoffice - 35 (+?)
  Presentation - 27 (+?)
   Crashes - 23 (+?)
  Database - 20 (+?)
   Drawing - 16 (+?)
   Borders - 15 (+?)
 Migration -  3 (+?)
 BASIC -  3 (+?)
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.5. This will be the fifth in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.5 RC2 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.5/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Non-debug Windows daily builds: tb39

[Thorsten Behrens]

Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> > I can also confirm that the build
> > libo-master~2013-08-17_22.48.29_LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86 from
> > Tinderbox 42 crashes on start.
> 
> No idea - Thorsten?
> 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-X86@42/2013-08-19_23.11.46/
e.g. works just fine here. In general, of course, master can be broken
(and then fixed again) at any given time... ;)

If that still fails for you, some more input appreciated
(e.g. backtrace, what libs are missing, etc).

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Non-debug Windows daily builds: tb39

[Thorsten Behrens]

Pedro wrote:
> None of the builds from tinderbox 39 and 42 works under Windows XP.
> 
Sure sure, that is I suppose a general fix. Was just trying to make
sure my box is not utterly broken by always doling out crashing
builds. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15

[Thorsten Behrens]

Pedro wrote:
> Thorsten Behrens wrote
> > * Pending Action Items:
> > + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy)
> 
> Please make sure that you check OS version first.
> 
Hi Pedro,

I don't think that is possible - 3.6.x versions are already out there,
and we cannot retroactively add the feature.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15

[Thorsten Behrens]

Florian Reisinger wrote:
> Don't we send the OS to the server?
>
Yes. But the OS in this case is just 'Windows'. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] The garbage into the dev-builds.libreoffice.org

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Pedro wrote:
> Regarding your question, I made a similar request over a month ago but
> nobody bothered to answer... I hope someone answers to you...
> 
Noticing now, cleaned up there.

Best course of action in the future - poke one of the tinderbox admins
(visible from the log / detailed tb info page) directly, they all have
access to that dir.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] The garbage into the dev-builds.libreoffice.org

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Pedro wrote:
> Regarding poking: I tried that in the past... I was either ignored
> or told I was disrespectful.
>
Heh. So feel free to poke me (one of the tinderbox admins) in the
future. Apologies if I should have ignored you in the past. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] The garbage into the dev-builds.libreoffice.org

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Pedro wrote:
> Could you please rename the binaries in the Master branch so that
> they are named
> master~2013-10-27_23.53.26_LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86.msi
> like the other tinderboxes? (i.e. remove the libo- prefix which is
> redundant?)
> 
Can look into that - out of curiosity, why does that matter?

> Currently your tinderbox is the only one producing daily binaries from the
> Master branch for the Windows platform, so thank you for listening (and for
> fixing the capital X in the TB name)
> 
No prob - but I see up-to-date binaries in
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@42/current/ as
well?

> I don't know if this is deliberate but when doing a Custom install most of
> the components don't show up? (the user can only change the Optional
> Components)
> 
No idea, but it may well be due to the fact the box is _not_ doing
release builds, but rather ~minimal developer builds. Happy to tweak
configure options (the very first line in the body part of the
tinderbox detailed log), if there's consensus it is worthwhile.

Thanks for the update!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox green but no daily/master build

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
> Indeed -- it looks like something happened on the 7th such that builds
> were no longer produced (or no longer uploaded).
> 
Let me check.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
> > Other boxes don't seem to have resolved. There is no latest build in tb-42
> > or tb-39.
> 
> Confirmed. CC'ing kendy (owner: tb-39) and thorsten (owner: tb-42).
> 
Yup. Some residual sillyness in the fallback code for older source
versions. On it, test build is running.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> So my guess it is the extension integration, the bundling of the
> dictionaries, the enabling of the mozab connector (that then also
> bundles additional microsoft-runtimes)
> 
> @thorsten - bug in the tinderbox scripts?
> 
If anything, then the setup. Someone throw me over a autogen.input to
use, and I stick it in. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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I wrote:
> Robinson Tryon wrote:
> > > Other boxes don't seem to have resolved. There is no latest build in tb-42
> > > or tb-39.
> > 
> > Confirmed. CC'ing kendy (owner: tb-39) and thorsten (owner: tb-42).
> > 
> Yup. Some residual sillyness in the fallback code for older source
> versions. On it, test build is running.
>
Uploading now finally. Kendy, Cloph, if your bots are using tb,
another git pull might be needed for you.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Pedro wrote:
> State of daily Master builds (for Windows) on the 22nd of November 2013:
> 
Thx for the overview!

> Comments:
> 
> 1) Tinderbox (alias TB) #39 and #42 don't provide the needed txt
> file
>
Seems to be related to the different tinderbox scripts (both use
buildbot/tb/tb). Currently lack the cycles to have a deeper look,
maybe someone else could port that over from tb2?

> 2) TB #39 and #42 are building Master builds for the upcoming 4.3 branch (as
> expected) but there are no 4.2 branch daily builds
>
Good point, let me add that.

> 3) Build names for TB #42 are still different from the other TBs
>
Let me attempt to fix that, too.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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V Stuart Foote wrote:
> But would you also be able to tweak the build to include the "--enable-ia2"
> configuration so we'll be able to work on the experimental IAccessible2
> support for Assistive Technology tools?
> 
Hah, good point - thx, enabled for the next upload.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Pedro wrote:
> On a separate note: TB#42  is creating folders for the 4.1 branch but no
> files are being uploaded.
> 
Yup, that came up separately - seems the script got broken after the
changes to instdir in master.

> Thorsten Behrens wrote
> >> 3) Build names for the TB #42 Master branch are still different from the
> >> other TBs
> >>
> > Let me attempt to fix that, too.
> 
> Ping :)
> 
Drats. So I will actually have to go & read the code where that name
comes from. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ownCloud for Bugzilla - IMHO a no go

[Thorsten Behrens]

Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> IMHO, the best solution we could hope for is something helping us like this
> - to let the enduser upload the file in question to the
>   Dropbox-equivalent of his choice
> - then have a TDF service where our QA guys can throw an URL at (via
>   email, webinterface, ssh login)
> - this service then downloads the file and saves it for us on our
>   mirror
>
Idly wondering - are we fixing the right problem? How often does the
case arise, what's the size distribution of those huge files, and is
it really necessary to store those eternally?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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V Stuart Foote wrote:
> But with TB-42 hung, can't tell at the moment.
>
Box rebooted w/o apparent reason. Heh, Windows. ;)

Builds again now.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderboxes: Holiday Wishlist

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
> > 3) Consistent filenames across TB (hint to Thorsten ;) ) Not needed if one
> > build per OS is enough (see point 1)
> >
> 
> Given that we have a community of tinderboxes, I don't see a reason
> against standardized names. If someone doesn't want to follow the
> particular naming convention, it's fine for them to run an unlisted
> tinderbox...
> 
Sure. The only problem with tb@42 is that I run builbot/tb, and have
not yet managed to free the cycles to hunt down where that install set
name comes from. Any input appreciated. ;)

> > 4)  Text file with details associated with each installer (since the
> > executables have NO reference to the TB that produced them). Again, not
> > needed if one build per OS is enough (see point 1)
> 
> So shove info in regarding who built what and when?
> Bjoern -- That should be relatively easy, right?  (also: what do you
> think of the idea? :-)
> 
Makes sense, again needs someone to implement it for buildbot/tb.

> > Sidenote: I would say that having a 4.2 daily build is currently more
> > important than a Master build (since 4.3 is only planned for code freeze in
> > May...)
> 
> Well, we do need master builds for general QA testing, as well as for
> the bibisect repos, so I think that Master builds are often the most
> useful to us in the long term. That being said, I would definitely
> like daily builds for our stable branches; I believe that it's doable
> for us to have both.
>
And easily so. That's why I opted for Norbert's buildbot/tb, you can
have it build any number of branches and configurations in a
round-robin fashion.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] odb ODF standard conformance [was: minutes of ESC call ...]

[Thorsten Behrens]

Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> 2) manifest:manifest without version attribute: I have no clue what
>version I should put there. Any hint?
> 
manifest:version="1.2"

> 3) ODF mimetype 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.base' is invalid
> 
That's rather something I'd fix in the validator. In general, vnd.*
mimetypes are under jurisdiction of, well, the vendor. And OASIS
clearly seems happy with it. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> + apparently a fiction that as of today there is idle TDF owned hardware.
>
No idea why this is relevant here, but for the record: there is a
number of donated / sponsored boxes with TDF, that for various
hysterical reasons are not under infra control. 3-4 of them are mostly
idle or powered down.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> * Hackfests (Bjoern)
> + initial scheduling for 2015:
> + Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain
> + happy to have us back
> + suggested March 19th, 20th: Thur / Fri.
> + happens during GSOC application phase.
>
That date just got confirmed - go sign up & book travel ASAP if you
want to join!

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2015

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> AI: + kind offer to setup an MSVC2015 tinderbox vs. master (Thorsten)
> + community edition ? (Jmux)
> + is that also 2015 ?
> + also available (Cloph)
>
VS2015 Community Edition now building on tb@42, nightlies here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@42

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[Libreoffice-qa] Fw: findings from the plugfest

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi guys,

below a list of question / issues with the ODF support - any
volunteers to convert those not being obvious test or ODF standard bugs
into bugzilla reports?

Thanks a lot, Thorsten

- Forwarded message from Jos van den Oever  
-

Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:39:17 +
From: Jos van den Oever 
Subject: findings from the plugfest

Hello dear LibreOffice developers,

At the last ODF plugfest, LibreOffice was put under quite some scrutiny, as
were the other office suites.
The findings were written down in a report:
 http://odfplugfest.org/2015-thehague/report.html
The number of bugs found can be seen at the bottom of the page. The individual
bugs for LibreOffice are prepended with 'Bug: LibreOffice'.

The names in bugs relate to the tests at
  http://autotests.opendocumentformat.org/

I hope you find the report useful in improving LibreOffice. At the next
plugfest we will be running and evaluating the tests again.

Best regards,
Jos van den Oever

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Katarína Behrens wrote:
> I'm slightly reluctant to make this 5.3 late feature, not because of
> the impact on translations (which I clarified in another e-mail to
> Cloph & Olivier) but because of the impact on how help is packaged
> on all 3 platforms for TDF builds and Linux distributions.
> 
Right - and the question is, what does it buy us anyway for 5.3, given
that new helpcontent / extra images will only happen on master after
string freeze?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> * TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten)
> + Idea generation:
> + Community Building feature / fix / tooling
> + Quality improvement tooling
> + Hard / dull but necessary stuff not getting done
> + Large missing features / function
> + have some ideas (Thorsten)
>
Added to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2017

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> + online (Michael)
>   + online branch maintenance (Thorsten)
>  + wondering for 5.3 – what’s the policy ?
>  + not using gerrit much.
>  + customer wants to do stabilization & bug-fixing
>  - plan for one review in gerrit (Thorsten)
>
To expand a bit on that, very happy to say that Kopano
(https://kopano.com/) is sponsoring us to improve the stable TDF
branch of LibreOffice Online, which so far has not seen many
bugfixes.

We'll monitor bugzilla of course, but wouldn't mind a direct poke, if
you think some area needs particular attention.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> $ cd online
> $ git log libreoffice-5-3-branch-point..origin/libreoffice-5-3 --oneline
> | nl  -> 43
>
Does not seem to match reality:

$ git merge-base origin/master origin/libreoffice-5-3
  0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202
$ git log 0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202..origin/libreoffice-5-3 
--oneline | wc -l
  15

Of which 4 are version bumps, 4 are translation updates
(i.e. effectively community contributions), and one is from me.

>   Of course - its great to have help maintaining LibreOffice
> Online 5.3: welcome to the party. Having said that if it is possible
> to buy just some maintenance without funding any significant feature
> development work - there is a real risk of starving future feature
> investment, but that's not really a concern for the dev list.
> 
That is an odd comment indeed, it seems to go quite against what open
source should be. The hope is indeed to improve LibreOffice, as well
as LibreOffice Online, jointly as a community.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

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Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> * Jean-Sebastien:
> + Linagora branch for French ministry (mimo branch)
> + Tell us name of desired branch, will be added (Thorsten)
> + Sub-branches even? Probably not needed
> 
Done - also added Jean-Sebastien as committer, otherwise the whole
branch exercise would be moot. Jean-Sebastien, please use the normal
gerrit code review process for master still for the moment.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-05

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* Present:
  + Thorsten, Miklos, Heiko, Michael W, Sophie, Cloph, Xisco, Stephan,
Eike, Olivier

* Completed Action Items:
+ enable new help for tinderboxes (Christian) → in distro-config
+ disable HSQLDB auto-migration for now except for experimental (Tamas B)
+ provide distro name for MIMO branch (Jean-Sebastien)

* Pending Action Items:
+ on ESC share - “Budget2018” - add your ranking before this week’s call [!]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.0.6 – rc1 due next week (Jul 10)
+ 6.1.0 RC1
+ tagged on Wednesday,
  builds are on pre-releases and now being synced to mirrors
+ 6.1.0 RC2 with libreoffice-6-1-0 branch week after the next
  marks hard code freeze  (Jul 17)
+ from now on, commits to 6-1 branch need one mandatory review
+ also string freeze
+ also includes html help switch for distro branches
+ ATTENTION for distro branch maintainers – there was a prob
  with gerrit, submodule changes might not have created
  the correct auto-commit on core
  + this was a problem since last weekend, fixed now
+ 6.1 late features
+ calc threading default / fixing (Miklos)
   + *DONE*, just bugfixing from now on
   + Eike: question to disable precautiously?
   + Miklos: if needed can be done at the last moment
+ writer – red-lining re-factoring (Michael S)
   + merged and done, included in beta 2 → remove here
+ Help format (Stephan/Olivier)
   + done and working
   + small gbuild make pattern rule prob on Mac, fixed now
AI + Olivier will release-note it
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online
+ simplifying iOS build re translations

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New help
+ Testing in bug hunting session tomorrow (installs)
+ Small corrections in XSLT filter
+ tweaks in CSS by fitoshido – people start contributing
+ Help contents
+ cosmetic refactor by SophiaS
+ Contents for [NatNum12] by Lazlo Nemetz
+ Contents fixes (ohallot, fitoshido)
+ Guides
+ Assembling & revising GS 6.0
+ Extras
+ some tweaks in UI dialog after help review.

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
248(248) (topicUI) bugs open, 281(281) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  1(-4) 7(-1) 16(-6)  80(-4) 
 commented 21(-17)   69(1) 258(-60)   1659(-30)
   removed  0(0)  0(0)   0(0)   10(0)  
  resolved  1(-2) 6(0)  21(-3) 170(-2) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 31 changes in 1 month, and 728 changes in 1 year
  Buovjaga made 24 changes in 1 month, and 171 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 12 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 8 changes in 1 month, and 322 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 7 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 7 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
  Raal made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 6 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 5 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes in 1 year 
+ cont’d the discussion around CTL/CJK tdf#104318
  + Suggestion is to remove the binding to languages completely,
which has bearing on default style
  + rethink default styles completely
  + Franklin and Khaled are involved in the thinking

+ positive feedback tdf#118516
  “And, I should have added my personal thanks and on behalf of the
   whole user base (if I may be so bold) to the whole LO team for
   the incredible work being done.”
+ German magazine compared LibreOffice vs. Softmaker, highlighting the
  Notebookbar/Ribbon interface
  + 
https://www.heise.de/ct/ausgabe/2018-14-LibreOffice-6-0-gegen-SoftMaker-Office-2018-fuer-Linux-4084433.html
  + discussion the German ML pointing out a few badly investigated
aspects
+ personal note: Heiko on vacation for the next two weeks

* Fuzz / Crash Testing (Caolan on vacation)
+ 60(-16) import failure, 3(+1) export failures
+ coverity
+ ??
+ forcepoint ??
+ oss-fuzz ?? (?? outstanding, ?? minor)
+ ODF validation has landed, validation errors will now show up in
  crashtesting logs – fixing howto on the dev list

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ Update notification was enabled, incoming reports start to look
  better than for previous version

+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
 + 489 (last 7 days) (-26)

 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-11 ESC call

[Thorsten Behrens]

Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> >     + setup new CentOS7 baseline VM (Cloph)
> >   [ done for the 64bit builds, for 32bit we stick to the CentOS6 ]
>
Perhaps then time to start pondering deprecation of the Linux x86
platform?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> * Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
>+ next year hackfests coming up:
>+ FOSDEM in February - 2 days before the conference expected.
>
Apologies, there's an off-by-one error:

tentative FOSDEM schedule is as follows:

Wednesday, January 30
 * Hackfest at betacowork

Thursday, January 31
 * Hackfest at betacowork
 * 1300-1800 board + ED meeting at betacowork

Friday, February 1
 * all day board + ED + MC + staff at betacowork

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Weekly QA Report (W49-2018)

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Hi Xisco,

Xisco Fauli wrote:
> Generated on 2018-12-11 based on stats from 2018-12-09. Note: Metabugs
> are ignored.
> 
Thx a bunch for the weekly stats, and the extra data on the blog
(https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/04/qa-report-november-2018/).

As that question was asked from a number of people: any chance to add
a chart with the history of regressions, similar to the one for the
evolution of the unconfirmed bugs?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2019-01-10

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Present:
+ Sophie, Olivier, Michael W, Michael M, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan
  Michael S, Caolan, Thorsten, Christian, Heiko, Justin, Eike

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy)
+ work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian)
  [ didn’t connect with him yet ]
+ mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian)
+ add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian)
  [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation
can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just
ja it fails – needs further research  ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.1.5 RC1 – tagged next week ...
+ 6.2 RC 2 – due week 3 ? – Jan 17th
  + tagged Tuesday evening – builds on the mirror network now
  + libreoffice-6-2-0 branch created
  + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2
  + and another 2 reviews for libreoffice-6-2-0
  + Late Features
 + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Michael S)
+ looking pretty solid; all in.
+ so far – just 1 bug from the Word file-format;
  forgot to adapt the filter → fix for RC3 if +1 review.
   + will take a look at the patch (Miklos)
→ considers it done (Thorsten)
 + Notebookbar → any update wrt. leaving enabled (Heiko)
+ decided to enable – and see if there are complaints.
+ not so many so far; some issues with l10n
   + German & other langs longer than English l10n
  + makes things bigger potentially in one variant.
  + relevant for all variants with strings when you turn it on
  + compact variants don’t have this issue.
=> ship with it and see what happens.
   + marketing is happy with promoting it.
   + not a problem for now, but think it through in future (Sophie)
  + could introduce a shorter label in the commands (Heiko)
 + but a terrible solution
 + or comment to l10n that name should be short (Sophie)
 + Updated Elementary icons (Heiko)
   + directional issues fixed even for 6.2 (a bug)
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115986
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
  + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet.
+ Online

* Project / Donate popups in stable (Justin Luth)
+ unhappy with annoying popups for get-involved & donate for several reasons
   + open-source desparation / EOL signifier ?
   + eg. Wikipedia – EOL ? (Heiko)
+ security things: ignore adverts in E-mail / popups etc.
   + if LibreOffice starts up – get an advert …
   + don’t follow it – didn’t start it to investigate it
  + do own searching with google instead.
   + different classes of people: who would want to see it ?
  + no user would ask for this.
  + would like to see it die.
   + made me question / want to quit.
+ point quite clear in Bugzilla – can disable toolbars fine.
  + also against infobars from a user-perspective (Heiko)
 + decided in TDF team - rely on donations
 + need to draw more attention.
 + download from an app-store, who never see our download page.
 + where we encourage people to donate.
 + project relies heavily on this; a good balance
 + 1 click to dismiss in exchange.
 + fully agree it is annoying.
  + correlation between download updater & donations in the past (Michael)
+ potential compromises
  + leave it in for fresh, not stable.
  + one problem – not targetted at all
  + in the debug version → “please get involved” is annoying.
 + concern. wrt. Amateurish.
  + the fresh people you want to target more anyway.
  + am a sysadmin for 30 machines
 + end-users are prolly more of a drain wrt get-involved.
  + created the extension – but had to create it; took 3 hrs.
 + despite being the guy who wrote the wiki page on this.
 + lots of work on a small scale.
  + patches all go into 6.2 (Heiko)
+ get-involved is in 6.1.x
+ agree it is annoying (Thorsten)
  + there is a problem, TDF can only go so far
without a stable donation stream
 + not wedded to the current solution.
  + perhaps not the best venue to discuss → community / UX’y
  + slightly afraid of blessing stable too much
+ easire decision – not a permanent idea for stable (Miklos)
  + but just 6.1 – and come up with a better proposal.
AI:   + propose remove it from 6.3 and 6.1-stable (Justin)
   + could make it an --enable-release-build thing for 6.3 (Miklos)
AI:   => disable for 6.1 for now & release-build-ize it for 6.2 & 6.3
   + and continue discussing elsewhere.

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