Horizontally aligning staves in Scribus render frames

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Payne
I'm using lilypond source code in render frames in a Scribus two column 
layout to put short two bar single stave exercises at a dozen or more to 
the page. The render frames are horizontally aligned and of the same 
height, but the problem I haven't been able to solve is that of getting 
the staves in the left and right columns to align horizontally. Setting 
top-system-spacing #'padding to the same value in left and right column 
scores and turning #'stretchability off doesn't align the staves, it 
aligns the highest part of what is in each short score. What LP code can 
I use to get the staves themselves to align, rather than the highest 
part of the notes?


Here's an example of the LP code in one of the render frames. Keeping 
everything the same except the notes doesn't keep the left and right 
staves aligned. I realise that once I have the notes in I can fiddle the 
top-system-spacing #'padding value for one of the staves until they're 
pretty much aligned, but with multiple pages with up to eight of these 
pairs on each page, that's something I'd rather avoid if possible.


\version "2.15.16"

\language "english"

\include "/home/nick/lilypond/guitar.ily"

\paper {

ragged-last = ##f

top-system-spacing #'padding = #2

top-system-spacing #'stretchability = #0

}


\relative c' {

\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f

\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-numbers

\override Staff.TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f

\override Staff.TupletBracket #'stencil = ##f

\clef "treble_8"

\repeat volta 2 {

\mark #7 \bar "|:"

<<

{ \fl \sfu \sfsst

\times 2/3 { c,8   e,   c, g' e' e, g c } |

\times 2/3 { b, g'  d, g  g,, g' f' b,, d d' } |

}

\\

{ \fl \sfd

4  c e |

 d  b |

}

>>

}

}


Nick
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Re: Hiding or delaying new staffs

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Downes

Phil & Eluze,

Please accept my apologies.

I have found the problem & it is down to me not being careful enough
with { }.  It is now working fine.

I am new to lilypond & virtually new to compiled languages &
struggling with the level of attention to detail required.

Will try to do better.

Many thanks

Steve


On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 02:28:31PM -0800, -Eluze wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> steve downes wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> To get rid of all except piano staffs which only contain Whole
> >> Measure Rests, use:
> >> 
> >> \layout {
> >>  \context {
> >>\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
> >>\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
> >>  }
> >> }
> > 
> > Thanks for your very prompt reply. I had already done this & there are
> > 2 problems with it:-
> > 
> > 1) It leaves the clef, key sig, & time sig where the staff was at the
> >beginning 
> > 
> > 2) When I start to use the staff 8 bars later it puts it at the
> >beginning of the intro. If I pad the 8 bars out with R1 * 8 | or 
> >s1 * 8 | it puts the staff back in. 
> > 
> > So I'm back where I started.
> > 
> for me Phil's code works - what's your code?!
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://old.nabble.com/Hiding-or-delaying-new-staffs-tp32805610p32805995.html
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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.1 (alpha)

2011-11-09 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:42:54 +0200
Rodolfo Zitellini  schreef:

> I just have an annoying issue with the Music View: the scrollbar size
> does not seem to get calculated correctly and it is possible to scroll
> the doc only for circa 1/3 of it's total length, which is quite
> annoying. Do you have any ideas on what might be going wrong?

This is a Qt4 bug in the Mac OS X version, that occurs on Mac OS X
10.6.6, which is fixed in Qt 4.8.

https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-17414

-- 
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(http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl)


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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.1 (alpha)

2011-11-09 Thread Peekay Ex
Wilbert,

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Wilbert Berendsen  wrote:
> Op Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:42:54 +0200
> Rodolfo Zitellini  schreef:
>
>> I just have an annoying issue with the Music View: the scrollbar size
>> does not seem to get calculated correctly and it is possible to scroll
>> the doc only for circa 1/3 of it's total length, which is quite
>> annoying. Do you have any ideas on what might be going wrong?
>
> This is a Qt4 bug in the Mac OS X version, that occurs on Mac OS X
> 10.6.6, which is fixed in Qt 4.8.
>
> https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-17414
>

Do you think this is related to that same issue?

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1934

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Re: Horizontally aligning staves in Scribus render frames

2011-11-09 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 11/9/11 2:25 AM, "Nick Payne"  wrote:

>
>  
>  
>I'm using lilypond source code in render frames in a Scribus two
>column layout to put short two bar single stave exercises at a dozen
>or more to the page. The render frames are horizontally aligned and
>of the same height, but the problem I haven't been able to solve is
>that of getting the staves in the left and right columns to align
>horizontally. Setting top-system-spacing #'padding to the same value
>in left and right column scores and turning #'stretchability off
>doesn't align the staves, it aligns the highest part of what is in
>each short score. What LP code can I use to get the staves
>themselves to align, rather than the highest part of the notes?
>
>Here's an example of the LP code in one of the render frames.
>Keeping everything the same except the notes doesn't keep the left
>and right staves aligned. I realise that once I have the notes in I
>can fiddle the top-system-spacing #'padding value for one of the
>staves until they're pretty much aligned, but with multiple pages
>with up to eight of these pairs on each page, that's something I'd
>rather avoid if possible.

See my notes to Neil Thornock a couple of days ago.

Set top-system-spacing and system-system-spacing to have a basic-distance
and minimum-distance at the same fixed value, stretchability 0, and
padding of *negative* basic-distance.  This will put the staves right at
the basic distance, and will ignore high and low notes when placing the
staves.  Note -- you will need to adjust for any collisions by changing
the spacing manually; LilyPond will allow collisions between staves in
this mode (because you asked her to).

HTH,

Carl


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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Urs Liska

Am 09.11.2011 00:59, schrieb Carl Sorensen:

On 11/8/11 1:32 PM, "Tim Roberts"  wrote:




As I do more and more
  LilyPond data entry, I find the skill set development to be
  interesting.  I've become pretty quick at data entry now,
including dynamics and articulation marks.  I've become pretty good
at tweaking the output to get the effects I want.

The skill that is NOT developing, apparently, is the skill to keep
the relative octaves straight.  Inevitably, my first test run ends
up going diagonally straight off the page in one direction or other,
with 20 or 30 ledger lines on each note.

Is there a simple mnemonic aid that can help me remember which part
of a given token is the one that carries forward?  Individual notes
are easy.  Within a chord is easy.  I believe that the first note of
a chord then carries forward to the next token.  But in polyphony
(with<<  >>), is it the last note that carries forward
out of the polyphony?

If you are parsing notes, the last note parsed serves as the basis for the
next note.

To make this maybe even a little more concrete:
It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only 
on the order in which they appear in the input file.

(


If you are parsing chords, the first note in the last chord parsed serves
as the basis for the next note.
I got used to always writing chords from bottom to top, even when this 
implies more octavations.


HTH
Urs


At least, that's my mental model.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Michael Ellis
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends only on
> the order in which they appear in the input file.
>

Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule.  It deserves prominent placement
in the documentation.
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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis  writes:

> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
>
> It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends
> only on the order in which they appear in the input file.
>
>
> Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule.  It deserves prominent
> placement in the documentation. 

It is also wrong.  This just holds for durations.  Relative octaves are
not tracked in the input, but instead are generated when \relative is
called.  This is established at the point of time when a music list is
getting iterated.  If you entered the whole music list "naturally"
instead of having music functions and music variables provide bits and
pieces, then you get roughly input order, except that after chords, the
respective octave for the next element is taken from the first element
of the chord.  There may be further details.  Use occasional octave
checks if you tend to get things wrong.

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Re: Extending Lilypond's chord vocabulary PLUS Help on command definition

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Schmaus

Hi Jim & everyone,

I'm currently preparing a macro file "jazz-chords.ily" which contains 
(my version of) common jazz chord notation. I will share that file as 
soon as it is in a usable state.


However, right now, I just worked out how to define the markups of each 
chord by defining the markup explicitly. I would like to do that more 
elegantly by defining markup commands.

If, e.g., I would like to create a command \jcRaise such that the expression

\markup{ \raise #1.5 {\tiny "Maj9"} }

would just become
\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }

or possibly
\markup\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }

how do I define the markup command for this? I checked the manual here
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Markup-construction-in-Scheme#Markup-construction-in-Scheme

and tried to build such a function accordingly, but didn't really get 
anywhere. I guess I would need to start somewhere more basic.


Could anyone please point the way?
Thanks a lot,
Robert




Am 11/9/11 8:26 AM, schrieb lilyp...@umpquanet.com:

How can I add a new chord to Lilypond's "chordmode" vocabulary?

A minor augmented triad is composed of a root, a minor third, and
an augmented fifth.  On lead sheets, I would like the markup to
be something like:

markup {
   \text "m"
   \super "aug"
}

How would I reference this chord in chordmode?  Perhaps

f:m.5+

or

f:maug

would be convenient.

I have accomplished some basic chord *naming* alterations,
following an example snippet in the documentation:

- - -
chExceptionMusic = {
   1-\markup {
 \text "m"
 \super { "7" \musicglyph #"accidentals.flat" "5" }
   }
   1-\markup {
 \super "maj9"
   }
}

% Convert music to list and prepend to existing exceptions.
chExceptions = #( append
   ( sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions chExceptionMusic #t)
   ignatzekExceptions)
- - -

But adding a new chord (and a new chordmode identifier for it)
appears to be a whole different ball of wax.

Can someone who has done this before offer some insight on how
they did it?

Thank you!

Jim



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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Michael Ellis
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:38 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Michael Ellis  writes:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
> >
> > It does _not_ depend on the context the notes live in - it depends
> > only on the order in which they appear in the input file.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, that's an easy-to-remember rule.  It deserves prominent
> > placement in the documentation.
>
> It is also wrong.  This just holds for durations.  Relative octaves are
> not tracked in the input, but instead are generated when \relative is
> called.  This is established at the point of time when a music list is
> getting iterated.  If you entered the whole music list "naturally"
> instead of having music functions and music variables provide bits and
> pieces, then you get roughly input order, except that after chords, the
> respective octave for the next element is taken from the first element
> of the chord.  There may be further details.  Use occasional octave
> checks if you tend to get things wrong.
>
>
Ah! So the simple rule about simple rules still applies :-)
Back to my previous approach, then: Use point and click to select the first
note with the wrong octave, change it, and re-run lilypond.
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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis  writes:

> Ah! So the simple rule about simple rules still applies :-)  
> Back to my previous approach, then: Use point and click to select the
> first note with the wrong octave, change it, and re-run lilypond. 

Or write octave checks.

In relative mode, it is easy to forget an octave changing mark.  Octave
checks make such errors easier to find by displaying a warning and
correcting the octave if a note is found in an unexpected octave.

   To check the octave of a note, specify the absolute octave after the
`=' symbol.  This example will generate a warning (and change the
pitch) because the second note is the absolute octave `d''' instead of
`d'' as indicated by the octave correction.

 \relative c'' {
   c2 d='4 d
   e2 f
 }

   The octave of notes may also be checked with the
`\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command.  `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in
absolute mode.  This checks that the interval between the previous note
and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth (i.e., the normal calculation
of relative mode).  If this check fails, a warning is printed, but the
previous note is not changed.  Future notes are relative to the
`CONTROLPITCH'.

 \relative c'' {
   c2 d
   \octaveCheck c'
   e2 f
 }
 
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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread Trevor Daniels


David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM


 The octave of notes may also be checked with the
`\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command.  `CONTROLPITCH' is specified 
in
absolute mode.  This checks that the interval between the previous 
note
and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth (i.e., the normal 
calculation

of relative mode).


This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as
you can see by introducing various accidentals.

The calculation of nearest note in \relative mode is
based, not on pitches, but on position on the staff.
The octave is chosen so the number of staff-spaces
between the two note-heads is 3 or less.

For example,

\relative c'' {
 b c  % c is 1 staff space up, so is the c above
 b d  % d is 2 up or 5 down, so is the d above
 b e  % e is 3 up or 4 down, so is the e above
 b a  % a is 6 up or 1 down, so is the a below
 b g  % g is 5 up or 2 down, so is the g below
 b f  % f is 4 up or 3 down, so is the f below
}

See 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/learning/simple-notation


Trevor


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Re: Extending Lilypond's chord vocabulary PLUS Help on command definition

2011-11-09 Thread Tim McNamara

On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:

> Hi Jim & everyone,
> 
> I'm currently preparing a macro file "jazz-chords.ily" which contains (my 
> version of) common jazz chord notation. I will share that file as soon as it 
> is in a usable state.
> 
> However, right now, I just worked out how to define the markups of each chord 
> by defining the markup explicitly. I would like to do that more elegantly by 
> defining markup commands.
> If, e.g., I would like to create a command \jcRaise such that the expression
> 
> \markup{ \raise #1.5 {\tiny "Maj9"} }
> 
> would just become
> \jcRaise{ "Maj9" }
> 
> or possibly
> \markup\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }
> 
> how do I define the markup command for this? I checked the manual here
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Markup-construction-in-Scheme#Markup-construction-in-Scheme
> 
> and tried to build such a function accordingly, but didn't really get 
> anywhere. I guess I would need to start somewhere more basic.

Would the #(define-music-function work for this?

I am assuming that you have seen the pop-chord.ly file already and don't want 
to use that approach.
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Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels"  writes:

> David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:03 PM
>
>>  The octave of notes may also be checked with the
>> `\octaveCheck CONTROLPITCH' command.  `CONTROLPITCH' is specified in
>> absolute mode.  This checks that the interval between the previous
>> note
>> and the `CONTROLPITCH' is within a fourth (i.e., the normal
>> calculation
>> of relative mode).
>
> This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as
> you can see by introducing various accidentals.

I was merely quoting the manual, so if you have something to complain,
do it there.

-- 
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Call for help

2011-11-09 Thread Carl Sorensen
Dear LilyPond user community,

The LilyPond development team is somewhat stressed right now, due to a
variety of issues (seems like it's a different one for each developer).
We *really* need to increase the size of the development pool.  But we
aren't ready right now to mentor inexperienced developers.

So, since you're not an experienced developer, how can you help?  By
taking over bug-squad duties.  We currently have a couple of bug-squadders
who are also developers.  If we could relieve them of their bug-squad
responsibilities, it would make time for them to work on their other
development projects.

Being a bug squad member requires *no* development expertise with
LilyPond.  You simply need to be able to use LilyPond, a web browser, and
email.  And it only requires 20 minutes per day.  You can volunteer for
one or two days per week, so the total time per week is less than an hour.

To learn more, please look at Chapter 8 of the Contributor's Guide for
version 2.15.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/introduction-to-iss
ues


If you're interested in volunteering to help keep LilyPond moving forward,
please send an email to the Bug Meister, Phil Holmes, who is copied on
this email.

Thanks in advance for your willingness to help with this!

Carl Sorensen


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Re: Extending Lilypond's chord vocabulary PLUS Help on command definition

2011-11-09 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 11/9/11 9:49 AM, "Tim McNamara"  wrote:

>
>On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim & everyone,
>> 
>> I'm currently preparing a macro file "jazz-chords.ily" which contains
>>(my version of) common jazz chord notation. I will share that file as
>>soon as it is in a usable state.
>> 
>> However, right now, I just worked out how to define the markups of each
>>chord by defining the markup explicitly. I would like to do that more
>>elegantly by defining markup commands.
>> If, e.g., I would like to create a command \jcRaise such that the
>>expression
>> 
>> \markup{ \raise #1.5 {\tiny "Maj9"} }
>> 
>> would just become
>> \jcRaise{ "Maj9" }
>> 
>> or possibly
>> \markup\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }
>> 
>> how do I define the markup command for this? I checked the manual here
>> 
>>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Markup-construc
>>tion-in-Scheme#Markup-construction-in-Scheme
>> 
>> and tried to build such a function accordingly, but didn't really get
>>anywhere. I guess I would need to start somewhere more basic.
>
>Would the #(define-music-function work for this?

jcRaise = 
#(define-markup-function (props layout myMarkup) (ly:markup?)

   (interpret-markup layout props
   #{
  \markup \raise #1.5 {\tiny $myMarkup}
#}))

I haven't tested it, but it should work.  See

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/extending/new-markup-command-de
finition


For more information.

HTH,

Carl


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Re: Extending Lilypond's chord vocabulary PLUS Help on command definition

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen  writes:

> jcRaise = 
> #(define-markup-function (props layout myMarkup) (ly:markup?)
>
>(interpret-markup layout props
>#{
>   \markup \raise #1.5 {\tiny $myMarkup}
> #}))
>
> I haven't tested it, but it should work.  See
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/extending/new-markup-command-de
> finition

For some inscrutable reason, the predicate is just markup? instead of
ly:markup?.

-- 
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Re: Extending Lilypond's chord vocabulary PLUS Help on command definition

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Schmaus

Am 11/9/11 4:49 PM, schrieb Tim McNamara:


On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:


Hi Jim&  everyone,

I'm currently preparing a macro file "jazz-chords.ily" which contains (my 
version of) common jazz chord notation. I will share that file as soon as it is in a 
usable state.

However, right now, I just worked out how to define the markups of each chord 
by defining the markup explicitly. I would like to do that more elegantly by 
defining markup commands.
If, e.g., I would like to create a command \jcRaise such that the expression

\markup{ \raise #1.5 {\tiny "Maj9"} }

would just become
\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }

or possibly
\markup\jcRaise{ "Maj9" }

how do I define the markup command for this? I checked the manual here
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Markup-construction-in-Scheme#Markup-construction-in-Scheme

and tried to build such a function accordingly, but didn't really get anywhere. 
I guess I would need to start somewhere more basic.


Would the #(define-music-function work for this?

I am assuming that you have seen the pop-chord.ly file already and don't want 
to use that approach.



Hi Tim,

actually, I'm using the same approach as pop-chords. I've just 
modified/added loads of chord alterations and formatted them s.t. they 
look more like the usual jazz chords.


However, right now, I defined the markup command for each individual 
chord explicitly - with the effect, that I would also need to change 
each chord definition explicitly if I would, say, like to change the 
size in which the of the tensions are printed.
Therefore I was trying to switch to a music-function approach. But I 
don't yet know how to do it.


In the documentation, there is a description of how functions are 
defined, but I don't understand a lot of what's written there.

E.g. in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/New-markup-command-definition#New-markup-command-definition
halfway down, it reads

---
(cons (list '(font-shape . caps) ) props)
The variable props is a list of alists, and we prepend to it by cons’ing 
a list with the extra setting.

---

now it seems to me that I should know what what "cons'ing" *is* - but I 
don't, and I haven't found it explained anywhere in section 6 so far. 
hence my remark that I probably need to start way more back at the 
basics before I can define musical functions ...



I've seen that Carl and David sent me a suggestion of how the function 
should work - so hopefully I will soon enough see where I went wrong (my 
trials looked similar, but didn't work ...)


Thanks for all your responses - I'll let you know how it works 
(preferably by producing the jazz-chords file ...)


Cheers,
Robert



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Re: grace note synchronization

2011-11-09 Thread Helge Hafting

On 03. aug. 2011 17:08, Xavier Scheuer wrote:

On 3 August 2011 15:34, Urs Liska  wrote:

[...]


AFAIK you need to add a corresponding skip graces to _every voice_ in
_every staff_.


I wish lilypond could be changed, so this wouldn't be necessary.

It is a *pain* when there are lots of grace notes, and 3 or more voices. 
Especially when two voices have grace notes of different lengths but in 
the same place.


And sometimes no tricks work, for example if the very first note has a 
grace note. Adding a silent bar first is a workaround, but not what I want.


A grace note is supposed to steal some time from the note it is
attached to, so it is not supposed to change the timing at all.

Consider this:
A piece for piano and violin. So there are 3 voices. I want to be
able to print separate scores as well as a combined sheet, so
timing changes and repeats goes into every voice. (Not necessary for the
combined works, but needed so I can print just one voice too.)

Every grace note will then need grace skips in the other voices,
unless the others happens to have a grace note of the same length too.
The work with grace notes is tripled. It is so easy to miss a grace skip
somewhere, and then timing changes print twice, or other ugly, wrong 
oddities appear.


It'd be so much better if this simply wasn't necessary.

Helge Hafting

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Re: grace note synchronization

2011-11-09 Thread David Kastrup
Helge Hafting  writes:

> On 03. aug. 2011 17:08, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
>> On 3 August 2011 15:34, Urs Liska  wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> AFAIK you need to add a corresponding skip graces to _every voice_ in
>> _every staff_.
>
> I wish lilypond could be changed, so this wouldn't be necessary.

[Rant deleted]

If you want to attach a bounty to your wish, the relevant issue is issue
34 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=34>.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: Horizontally aligning staves in Scribus render frames

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Payne

On 10/11/11 14:35, Nick Payne wrote:

On 10/11/11 00:25, Carl Sorensen wrote:

On 11/9/11 2:25 AM, "Nick Payne"  wrote:


I'm using lilypond source code in render frames in a Scribus two
column layout to put short two bar single stave exercises at a 
dozen

or more to the page. The render frames are horizontally aligned and
of the same height, but the problem I haven't been able to solve is
that of getting the staves in the left and right columns to align
horizontally. Setting top-system-spacing #'padding to the same 
value

in left and right column scores and turning #'stretchability off
doesn't align the staves, it aligns the highest part of what is in
each short score. What LP code can I use to get the staves
themselves to align, rather than the highest part of the notes?

Here's an example of the LP code in one of the render frames.
Keeping everything the same except the notes doesn't keep the left
and right staves aligned. I realise that once I have the notes in I
can fiddle the top-system-spacing #'padding value for one of the
staves until they're pretty much aligned, but with multiple pages
with up to eight of these pairs on each page, that's something I'd
rather avoid if possible.

See my notes to Neil Thornock a couple of days ago.

Set top-system-spacing and system-system-spacing to have a 
basic-distance

and minimum-distance at the same fixed value, stretchability 0, and
padding of *negative* basic-distance.  This will put the staves right at
the basic distance, and will ignore high and low notes when placing the
staves.  Note -- you will need to adjust for any collisions by changing
the spacing manually; LilyPond will allow collisions between staves in
this mode (because you asked her to).


Thanks. I added your suggestions for the spacing values to the paper 
blocks for the scores, and when I turn on annotate-spacing I can see 
that each stave is the same distance from the top margin, but for some 
reason they don't get positioned at the same height in the Scribus 
frame. So I've asked on the Scribus forum, as it looks like the 
problem is on their side of the fence.


Well after a bit more delving around I found that the problem was due to 
Scribus for some reason applying an arbitrary small X and Y offset of a 
few points to the position of the Lilypond PDF output in the render 
frames. Once I zeroed out those values everything is nicely aligned.


Nick

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