Dynamics too far below, Piano+song based Template

2005-04-08 Thread dax2

   Dear Friends,

   I have so far only done 5 or 6 pieces in Lilypond notation. I
am very fond of the results. In my new project there is a challenge:


   Ped-marks come too far below the lower staff, if I use a
separate dynamic-Staff.


   I missed templates for piano-quartet/trio.

   I used the Song or lied template after realizing that the
beautiful Mutopia-project piano-trio by Mozart in E-flat was 
written with a Lilypond notation which goes longer back than the
first of my Lilypond-versions! Ugh!

   I use 2.5.0 (or 2.4.0) and it works nicely.


   My new template and 2.4 can do Ped marks without separate
middle/lower dynamic staff, just doing \sustainDown works.
However, the smart PianoTemplate solution allows markings to be
placed precisely where you want them using space-rests s2 s16. The
technique is to have an extra (virtual) Staff for Dynamics,
like this:

[...]

\context Dynamics = PedMarks 
  \lowerDynamics


%%  \new has been replaced by \context in 2.4.x




So I added the necessary tweaks cut-and-paste from an older
piano-template, and it works BUT:

The ped-marks come too far below the lower staff.

The black magic tweaks are given here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/lily-927257492.ly
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Piano-templates.html#Piano-templates

I updated them using convert-ly, not much was changed though.
----------------

The warning I get is not the real problem:

Full example http://d-axel.dk/pub/music/start/bk4-pedwarn.*:

Now processing `bk4-pedwarn.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... warning: Cannot find or create `Dynamics' called `pedal'
[8][16][24][32][40][41]

[...]


----------------

But this is not the real challenge; the problem is that the
distance between the lower staff and the dynamic mark has grown
out of proportion.

You can find the full pdf-file and sources here:
http://d-axel.dk/pub/music/start/bk4-pedwarn.pdf



POSTSCRIPTUM:

I will try to study more intensively on Gray Nereides and
examples from Mutopiaproject. One of the most fascinating is
the Chopin etude op.25-1. This is brilliant work, and I feel
stupid when I read the source. How did he find out?

Well, I better read the docs thoroughly, I have skipped too
many parts. However, are there any hints for a reader, then I
will be glad. I am impressed how much Mats Bengtsson helps
all of us people here on the list.


Thank you for any hint, and regards from 

Donald


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Re: Dynamics too far below, Piano+song based Template

2005-04-08 Thread dax2

More pondering (lily-pondering?:-) brought the solution.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:26:35 +0200
dax2 wrote:

 So I added the necessary tweaks cut-and-paste from an older
 piano-template, and it works BUT:
 
 The ped-marks come too far below the lower staff.

Thanks again - searching the list dynamics gave me the 
clue needed:

Mats wrote on (Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:22:49 +0200):

 I don't like the current solution in the template using lots of 
 extra-offset settings.
[...]

 \score {
   \context PianoStaff 
 \context Staff = upper \upper
 \context Dynamics = dynamics \dynamics
 \context Staff = lower 
   \clef bass
   \lower \pedal
 
   

which means that I can have two parts on the same staff; the notes
***and*** the dynamics/pedmarks with space-rest-placement.

Thank you Mats and every other optimistic Lilyponder!



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