Re: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
Op Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:05:59 - "Phil Holmes" schreef: > - Original Message - > From: "Wilbert Berendsen" > > But in upcoming Frescobaldi 2.0.5 I have added some additional > > logic to look for LilyPond in other locations, even if they are not > > in the PATH. Currently "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin" is > > searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows > > with newer LilyPond versions yet). > > > > -- > > Wilbert Berendsen > > (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) > > > Clearly for windows only, but an alternative is to look in the > program files directory for the shortcut. c# code that does this is: > > string ProgMenu = > Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ProgramFiles); > string [] LilyDirs = Directory.GetDirectories(ProgMenu, "*lily*"); Thanks for the hint! I now look in the ProgramFiles environment variable and search that path for 'LilyPond*\\usr\\bin' subfolders. This should find normally installed LilyPonds in Windows. -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
- Original Message - From: "Wilbert Berendsen" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?) Currently "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin" is searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows with newer LilyPond versions yet). Can you add C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin" ? Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
- Original Message - From: "Wilbert Berendsen" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?) Op Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:36:33 -0400 Father Gordon Gilbert schreef: For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all worked! Frescobaldi just tries if 'lilypond.exe' (or 'lilypond-windows.exe', which does not open a console window) can be found in the operating system's PATH. If not, you should open the preferences, select the 'lilypond' entry in the list and click 'Edit'. There, specify the full path to the lilypond-windows.exe program. But in upcoming Frescobaldi 2.0.5 I have added some additional logic to look for LilyPond in other locations, even if they are not in the PATH. Currently "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin" is searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows with newer LilyPond versions yet). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) Clearly for windows only, but an alternative is to look in the program files directory for the shortcut. c# code that does this is: string ProgMenu = Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ProgramFiles); string [] LilyDirs = Directory.GetDirectories(ProgMenu, "*lily*"); -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
Op Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:36:33 -0400 Father Gordon Gilbert schreef: > For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. > Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all > worked! Frescobaldi just tries if 'lilypond.exe' (or 'lilypond-windows.exe', which does not open a console window) can be found in the operating system's PATH. If not, you should open the preferences, select the 'lilypond' entry in the list and click 'Edit'. There, specify the full path to the lilypond-windows.exe program. But in upcoming Frescobaldi 2.0.5 I have added some additional logic to look for LilyPond in other locations, even if they are not in the PATH. Currently "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin" is searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows with newer LilyPond versions yet). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Yes it should. Especially for us non-geeks who understand a bit of this kind of thing. We need to know where to click and exactly what to type. Blessings, Gordon+ On 15/03/2012, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > On 3/15/12 5:36 AM, "Father Gordon Gilbert" wrote: > >>Hi guys, >> >>For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. >> Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all >>worked! > > I think this is a reflection of a solution to issue 1948. > > The windows installer no longer adds a path entry (by design), so the user > will need to add their own path in the future. Perhaps this should be > part of the Frescobaldi documentation. > > Thanks, > > Carl > > -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
On 3/15/12 5:36 AM, "Father Gordon Gilbert" wrote: >Hi guys, > >For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. > Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all >worked! I think this is a reflection of a solution to issue 1948. The windows installer no longer adds a path entry (by design), so the user will need to add their own path in the future. Perhaps this should be part of the Frescobaldi documentation. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hi guys, For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all worked! Thanks! Gordon+ On 15/03/2012, James wrote: > Father Gilbert > > On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: >> Thanks, Wilbert, >> >> I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky >> to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do >> make use of it, though! >> >> I have another problem now, however. >> >> When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco >> again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure >> what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: >> >> Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... >> Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. >> Please check path and permissions. >> >> I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even >> tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, >> with no improvement. >> >> Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week >> is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! >> >> Thanks for a fantastic program. >> > > I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see > my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be > slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows > 7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed. > > What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions > on teh website is to look here > > http://lilypond.org/windows.html > > See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check > and configure. > > I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you > - many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to > configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH > etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are > not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is > helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can > give you more detailed instructions in 'one go' > > > -- > -- > > James > -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Father Gilbert On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: > Thanks, Wilbert, > > I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky > to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do > make use of it, though! > > I have another problem now, however. > > When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco > again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure > what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: > > Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... > Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. > Please check path and permissions. > > I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even > tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, > with no improvement. > > Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week > is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! > > Thanks for a fantastic program. > I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows 7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed. What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions on teh website is to look here http://lilypond.org/windows.html See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check and configure. I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you - many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can give you more detailed instructions in 'one go' -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
2012/3/15 Father Gordon Gilbert : > Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... > Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. > Please check path and permissions. Sounds like Frescobaldi does not find your new lilypond install in the directory where it used to be, maybe it has been installed in another directory. Go to Preferences - LilyPond preferences. Highlight the first entry at the right, push Edit and then push the file browser dialog button at tthe right of 'lilypond command' box. Once there, find c:\Program Files\whatever\whatever\lilypond.exe where 'whatever' is something like \usr\bin\ , I'm sorry but I do not remember exactly (I am not a windows user) Once found, click 'Open', OK, OK. Test your whole set by compiling some music. Good luck! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hello, On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: > Thanks, Wilbert, > > I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky > to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do > make use of it, though! > > I have another problem now, however. > > When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco > again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure > what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: > > Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... > Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. > Please check path and permissions. > > I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even > tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, > with no improvement. > > Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week > is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! It almost certainly won't be Frescobaldi it'll be where/how windows has installed your later version of LilyPond. Install LilyPond as normal and then open a 'cmd' prompt (if you don't know what that is then click on the start menu in the task bar and either look for the 'run' menu option and type cmd or you can search for 'cmd.exe' and open it. Then from that command prompt type path This will list all the 'paths' to the applications you have installed. It'll be a long list, and you should (hopefully) see something like C;/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin; in there (I may have got that slightly inaccurate - I am doing this from memory) but you will see 'LilyPond' somewhere. If you don't see it then this is the problem and you will need to add it manually. I am about to leave for work, but if you still have problems or no one else answers I'll be around in an hour or so. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Thanks, Wilbert, I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do make use of it, though! I have another problem now, however. When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, with no improvement. Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! Thanks for a fantastic program. Blessings, Gordon+ On 14/03/2012, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Op Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:13:05 -0500 > Father Gordon Gilbert schreef: > >> Yes, changing a note and recompiling did the trick, thanks! I had >> done a convert-ly and recompiled, and I suppose that's why it pointed >> down to where the changes were listed. > > Indeed changes a convert-ly run the whole document (if you click OK in > the convert-ly dialog). When that happens, the point and click > locations are lost. > > This is because the editor (a component in Qt4) looses the positions of > all text cursors when the whole document text is replaced. Text cursors > remember their position in a document while it is being edited, that's > why I use them for point and click (which was in Frescobaldi 1 called > "smart point and click"). > > But when a region of text is deleted, all cursors that were in it, now > point to the place the deleted region started. When then new text is > inserted, all cursors move to the end of the inserted position. This is > Qt4 behaviour, even when you delete a region and then undo it, the > point and click positions are lost. > > But simply recompiling (even without changing a note) updates the PDF > and that triggers a re-load of the point and click positions. > > > -- > Wilbert Berendsen > (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) > > -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Op Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:13:05 -0500 Father Gordon Gilbert schreef: > Yes, changing a note and recompiling did the trick, thanks! I had > done a convert-ly and recompiled, and I suppose that's why it pointed > down to where the changes were listed. Indeed changes a convert-ly run the whole document (if you click OK in the convert-ly dialog). When that happens, the point and click locations are lost. This is because the editor (a component in Qt4) looses the positions of all text cursors when the whole document text is replaced. Text cursors remember their position in a document while it is being edited, that's why I use them for point and click (which was in Frescobaldi 1 called "smart point and click"). But when a region of text is deleted, all cursors that were in it, now point to the place the deleted region started. When then new text is inserted, all cursors move to the end of the inserted position. This is Qt4 behaviour, even when you delete a region and then undo it, the point and click positions are lost. But simply recompiling (even without changing a note) updates the PDF and that triggers a re-load of the point and click positions. -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert : > Hi guys, > > Yes, changing a note and recompiling did the trick, thanks! I had done a > convert-ly and recompiled, and I suppose that's why it pointed down to where > the changes were listed. It is not really necessary to change a note but that makes you visually sure that the PDF matches your code. Also take into account that unless you save (CTRL+S) and immediately compile (CTRL+M), the PDF will not be where it's supposed to be, but rather in a temporary folder of unpronounceable name. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hi guys, Yes, changing a note and recompiling did the trick, thanks! I had done a convert-ly and recompiled, and I suppose that's why it pointed down to where the changes were listed. Thanks for fantastic programs, both Lily and Fresco, and thanks for such an active and helpful forum. Blessings, Gordon+ On 10 March 2012 11:53, Shane Brandes wrote: > Also you may want to check under the program options to make sure the > pdf reader is properly pointing to the correct pdf reader version. > Under settings program configure or something like that. > > Shane > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Francisco Vila > wrote: > > 2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert : > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze > box (XP > >> Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. > >> > >> Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be > broken. > >> When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor > on a > >> spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. > >> > >> Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? > > > > Possibly the PDF preview does not match exactly (or is compiled from) > > your code at its present status. Modify one or two notes, press Ctrl+M > > to recompile, check that the PDF matches your code and try again. > > > > -- > > Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) > > www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com > > > > ___ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Also you may want to check under the program options to make sure the pdf reader is properly pointing to the correct pdf reader version. Under settings program configure or something like that. Shane On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert : >> Hi all, >> >> I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP >> Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. >> >> Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. >> When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a >> spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. >> >> Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? > > Possibly the PDF preview does not match exactly (or is compiled from) > your code at its present status. Modify one or two notes, press Ctrl+M > to recompile, check that the PDF matches your code and try again. > > -- > Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) > www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert : > Hi all, > > I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP > Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. > > Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. > When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a > spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. > > Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? Possibly the PDF preview does not match exactly (or is compiled from) your code at its present status. Modify one or two notes, press Ctrl+M to recompile, check that the PDF matches your code and try again. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hi all, I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? Blessings, Gordon+ -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
