Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Cynthia Karl
Consider the following snippet:

\version "2.19.16"

music = \relative c'' { c,4 d e f | g a b c | }

\addQuote "music" \music

moreMusic = \relative c'' {
r2 \quoteDuring "music" s2
r2 \quoteDuring "music" s2
}

\score { <<
\new Staff \music
\new Staff \moreMusic
 >>
 \layout { }
 \midi { }
 }

The printed output is fine:

,
but although it makes a midi file with two channels, there don't seem to be any 
notes in midi channel 2:



QuotedMusicOnMidi.midi
Description: MIDI audio


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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
> The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
> two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
> 
> Is this a known problem?

I wouldn’t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
trumpet part, I wouldn’t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
duplicating played music.

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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Christopher R. Maden wrote:
> On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
> > The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
> > two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
> > 
> > Is this a known problem?
> 
> I wouldn’t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
> trumpet part, I wouldn’t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
> MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
> duplicating played music.
[...]

Yeah, if you want to actually duplicate the music, you should consider
using variables instead.


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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Cynthia Karl

> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:17:08 -0600
> From: "Christopher R. Maden" 
> Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi
> On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
>> The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
>> two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
>> 
>> Is this a known problem?
> 
> I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
> trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
> MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
> duplicating played music.
> 
> ~Chris

Here's what the Notation Manual has to say about quoteDuring:

> Quoting other voices

> It is very common for one voice to use the same notes as those from another 
> voice. For example,
> first and second violins playing the same phrase during a particular passage 
> of the music. This
> is done by letting one voice quote the other, without having to re-enter the 
> music all over again
> for the second voice.

It doesn't say anything about borrowing the midiInstrument as well as quoting 
the notes.  It seems to me that the snippet I submitted is exactly the 
situation described by the NM.  The only question is, why no midi output for 
the quoted notes?

> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:22:51 -0800
> From: "H. S. Teoh" 
> Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi
> 
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Christopher R. Maden wrote:
>> On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
>>> The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
>>> two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
>>> 
>>> Is this a known problem?
>> 
>> I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
>> trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
>> MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
>> duplicating played music.
> [...]
> 
> Yeah, if you want to actually duplicate the music, you should consider
> using variables instead.

Perhaps the above cite from the NM needs rewriting, eh?

> 
> 
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Re: Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-03-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-03-16 2:02 GMT+01:00 Cynthia Karl :

>
> [...]
> Am I qualified to submit a bug report?  I have read some comments that
> imply that bug reports from Joe User are not welcome.
>
>
That's a misunderstanding!
Bug reports are highly apreciated. Only a _known_ bug can be fixed.
We have a bug-squad sorting bug-reports.

Though do as advised here:
http://www.lilypond.org/website/bug-reports.html

Cheers,
  Harm
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