RE: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
Hello, I am not sure if you are aware of this website http://www.diamm.ac.uk/index.html It contains very high resolution digital images of mensural music. You do need to register (free) but some of the images there are beautiful. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Nils Gey Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 21:46 To: Owain Sutton Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is? On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + Owain Sutton wrote: > On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: > > I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note > > (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) > > http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg > > > > From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the > > same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the > > right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. > > > > Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more > > pictures or versions. > > > > Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please > > let me know :) > > > > Greetings, > > > > Nils > > > Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea > of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is > it? If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
It appears to be the opening Kyrie of the Josquin's Missa Beata Virgine, ca 1510. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Josquin_Missa_BV_Kyrie.jpg I believe music printing was a thriving enterprise by then, so it's unlikely to be (completely) hand scribed. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Nils Gey wrote: > On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + > Owain Sutton wrote: > > > On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: > > > I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final > note (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different > version) > > > http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg > > > > > > From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates > the same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the > right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. > > > > > > Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more > pictures or versions. > > > > > > Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols > please let me know :) > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Nils > > > > > > Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some > idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which > source is it? > > If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image > search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these > things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the > usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) > > Nils > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + Owain Sutton wrote: > On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: > > I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note > > (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) > > http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg > > > > From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the > > same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the > > right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. > > > > Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more > > pictures or versions. > > > > Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please > > let me know :) > > > > Greetings, > > > > Nils > > > Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea > of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is > it? If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: > I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note > (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) > http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg > > From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the > same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the > right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. > > Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more > pictures or versions. > > Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please let > me know :) > > Greetings, > > Nils Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is it? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user