Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Jean-Luc Chevillard]

Greetings (from Pondicherry, India)

Age: 59

My first degree was in Mathematics, and then I migrated to Linguistics 
(or rather to the History of Linguistics, which I see as part of the 
"History of Science").


This is the domain where I did my Ph.D (in the eighties).

I am a researcher (at CNRS) working on the ancient Tamil Shastric (i.e. 
"scholarly/scientific/«grammatical»")  literature.


I also work on the Tamil devotional corpus, which has been transmitted 
for many centuries with Musical Information attached.


There is also some metrical/rythmic information attached to that corpus.

At the time of MS-DOS, in the eighties, I have written a number of small 
utilities in Assembly language, and have also some familiarity with a 
number of programming languages (although I tend to view them with the 
point of view of the "historian of science" and frequently buy nowadays, 
on ABE books, second-hand Descriptions of Languages (from the sixties, 
the seventies, the eighties, etc.) which have been discarded by 
libraries, wondering all the time what life would have been if I had 
really used those languages and marvelling at the creativity of all 
those geniuses.


I have almost all the books of D.E. Knuth, starting with TAOCP, and 
continuing with his Collected Papers, etc.


I have never really seriously used TeX and MetaFont but I have bought 
the books containing the listings of those programs (in Pascal)


I have discovered LilyPond a few years ago and use it for transcribing 
Tamil Hymns for which I have found svara notation (in sa-ri-ga-ma 
format), as for instance in the following examples:

"https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard/Musical-Transcription;

I have never used Frescobaldi (I am not sure what it is, but I see it 
mentionned frequently on the list) and write my .ly files using a text 
editor (I currently use NotePad+)


I enjoy reading messages on this mailing list and have received helpful 
advice on a few occasions when I asked for help


Greetings to all

-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (Paris -- Pondicherry -- Hamburg)


"https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard;

"https://plus.google.com/u/0/113653379205101980081/posts/p/pub;

"https://twitter.com/JLC1956;



On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote:


This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of
LilyPond users
>and
>developers?

Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty





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Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Jean-Luc,

> Le 16 sept. 2015 à 06:24, Jean-Luc Chevillard  
> a écrit :
> 
> I have never used Frescobaldi (I am not sure what it is, but I see it 
> mentionned frequently on the list) and write my .ly files using a text editor 
> (I currently use NotePad+)

Frescobaldi is an integrated development environment featuring a syntax and 
library-aware text editor and nice tools, you should give it a look.

JM



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FreeBSD issues

[Lev]

Hello all,


I'm hacking lilypond to my FreeBSD system.

Currently I have to following issues.

1. Guile2.x okay... I think it was asked several time. I use Guile2.x for
other software (gEDA) and on FreeBSD v1.x and v2.x is mutually exclusive. I've
checked out the git version, and I'm trying the guile-2 branch. What shall I
expect?

2. The configure script searches for makeinfo executable, which is installed in 
/usr/bin
probable comes from the base system. However, this is an ancient version. It
would be nice if the configure script would search for texi2any, which really
comes from the port, which has the current version.

3. 'International New Century Schoolbook' fonts are missing. I have all the
dependencies installed including dejavu. I have 'New Century Schoolbook' fonts
installed. What is the difference? How can I get these fonts for FreeBSD?

Could you help me out from the 3rd issue? The rest is easy.

Thanks,
Lev

-- 
73 de HA5OGL
Op.: Levente
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Re: Time signature denominator as a note rather than number?

[Nathan Ho]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM, ViniWolfling
 wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Anybody know how to put a note instead of a number in the denominator? Or at
> least /if/ it can be done? For example:
>
> 
>
> Thanks in advance!

Hello,

Have a look at this LSR snippet: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=642

Regards,
Nathan

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Re: Time signature denominator as a note rather than number?

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi,

> Have a look at this LSR snippet: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=642

Yes! That one suffices — and is more elegant — if you don’t need “strange note 
values” (like dotted notes) in your denominator(s).

Cheers,
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info


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Time signature denominator as a note rather than number?

[ViniWolfling]

Hi everybody,

Anybody know how to put a note instead of a number in the denominator? Or at
least /if/ it can be done? For example:


 

Thanks in advance! 



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Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Helge Kruse]

I am 54 years old and work as software developer. Playing harp is my
hobby. I perform solo, in ensemble and in orchestras.

I used NoteWorthy Composer for a few years, tried MusixTex for a short
period of time and use Lilypond since many years. In most cases I
typeset music for harp, harp ensemble, and sometimes orchestral
percussion.

Regards
Helge

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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[potoroo]

Thanks, that works. I set up a build system for Sublime (which has Lilypond 
syntax highlighting with the SubLilyPond package).

{
"shell_cmd": "lilypond -dno-point-and-click '$file_base_name.ly'; 
pdfcrop --margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'; pdf2svg 
'$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.svg'; rm -f '$file_base_name.pdf'; rm -f 
'$file_base_name.ps'",
"selector": "source.lilypond",
}

This will render and crop a pdf, convert it to svg and delete the pdf. However, 
I don't know why it won't remove the .ps file, or why it is created in the 
first place. Is there a way to prevent Lilypond from creating the .ps file?


> Am 15.09.2015 um 04:02 schrieb David Wright :
> 
> Quoting poto...@posteo.de (poto...@posteo.de):
>> I forgot: My file is just the minimum to test if Lilypond can do what I want 
>> it to do.
>> 
>> \pointAndClickOff
>> 
>> \relative {
>>  c' d e f g f e d
>>  c' d e f a a b d
>>  c' d e f a a b d
>> }
>> 
>> \version "2.18.2"
> 
> I typeset music fragments for insertion into LuaLaTeX files, so I
> generate .pdf files and then crop them. My .ly source is built up from
> quite a few includes, and processed with bash functions (on Debian)
> but I've processed this minimal fragment with the same utilities:
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> \relative {
>  c' d e f g f e d
>  c' d e f a a b d
>  c' d e f a a b d
> }
> \header { tagline = ##f }
> \paper { indent = 0 \mm }
> 
> $ lilypond -dno-point-and-click -drelative-includes --include="$HOME/LilyLib" 
> foo.ly
> 
> $ pdfcrop --margins 1 foo.pdf bar.pdf
> 
> $ pdf2svg bar.pdf foo.svg
> 
> pdfcrop is from texlive in Debian's texlive-extra-utils
> pdf2svg homepage is at http://www.cityinthesky.co.uk/pdf2svg.html
> 
> Filesizes:
> 
>141 foo.ly
>  18078 foo.pdf
>  17158 bar.pdf
>  39154 foo.svg
> 
> I checked the SVG with inkscape and it looks ok, as does the PDF.
> 
> I also ran your PNG command line:
> 
>   7454 foo.png
> 
> but I haven't looked at why the output has over a bar's width of
> whitespace at the right side. I don't use PNGs anyway because they're
> blurry, whereas PDFs (and the SVGs) remain crisp whatever the size.
> 
> I then added \break at the midpoint of the notes and reran everything.
> The SVG is complete, and it also happens to fix the PNG.
> 
> pdfcrop handles multiple pages; pdf2svg has to process a page at a time.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.


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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[Wols Lists]

On 15/09/15 19:46, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:32 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:
>> Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind.
> 
> Huh. Normally it wouldn’t; please try to create a tiny example. Also,
> check the log messages; they should have something like
> 
Ummm - on Windows it often doesn't :-( usually because something (often
the preview window in Explorer) is holding the pdf open.

I often find Windows won't delete stuff because some system process has
decided to open the file without my consent ...

> Converting to `document.pdf'...
> 
> Deleting `/tmp/lilypond-s634Nb'...
> 
> Success: compilation successfully completed
> 
> 
> at the end – the middle of these lines is the deletion of the
> intermediate .ps file.
> 
> Yours, Simon
> 
Cheers,
Wol


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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[potoroo]

I'm using Mac OS. There are no programs accessing the files. However, I just 
noticed that everything is alright the first time I render the file. But the 
second time, when the existing svg file needs to be overwritten, the ps file 
won't get deleted. When I delete both the svg and the ps, the ps is deleted 
again after the next run.


> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:59 schrieb Wols Lists :
> 
> On 15/09/15 19:46, Simon Albrecht wrote:
>> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:32 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:
>>> Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind.
>> 
>> Huh. Normally it wouldn’t; please try to create a tiny example. Also,
>> check the log messages; they should have something like
>> 
> Ummm - on Windows it often doesn't :-( usually because something (often
> the preview window in Explorer) is holding the pdf open.
> 
> I often find Windows won't delete stuff because some system process has
> decided to open the file without my consent ...
> 
>> Converting to `document.pdf'...
>> 
>> Deleting `/tmp/lilypond-s634Nb'...
>> 
>> Success: compilation successfully completed
>> 
>> 
>> at the end – the middle of these lines is the deletion of the
>> intermediate .ps file.
>> 
>> Yours, Simon
>> 
> Cheers,
> Wol
> 


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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 15.09.2015 um 20:59 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:

My test file ist:

\version "2.18.2"
\pointAndClickOff
\relative {
c' d e f g f e d
c' d e f g f e d
c' d e f g f e d
}
\header { tagline = ##f }
\paper {
line-width=120\mm
oddFooterMarkup=##f
oddHeaderMarkup=##f
bookTitleMarkup = ##f
scoreTitleMarkup = ##f
}

And I use this command:
lilypond -dno-point-and-click -ddelete-intermediate-files test.ly 



The log says this:
»test.ly « wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...
Interpretation der Musik...
Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente...
Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden...
Musik wird auf eine Seite angepasst...
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »test.ps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./test.pdf«...
Kompilation erfolgreich beendet
Sometimes no .ps file is left behind, but most of the times it is (> 90%).


Oh, I’m sorry. I did my tests with v2.19.27, which uses a totally 
different mechanism here.
Non-deterministic behaviour is interesting. I didn’t see that (with only 
a few tests), but I can confirm the observation with the .ps file and 
get the same log output as you do, if I use v2.18.2. It’s fixed in 
recent development versions, so you might consider upgrading. The 
instability of these is rather small.


Yours, Simon
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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 15.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:

Thanks, that works. I set up a build system for Sublime (which has Lilypond 
syntax highlighting with the SubLilyPond package).

{
"shell_cmd": "lilypond -dno-point-and-click '$file_base_name.ly'; pdfcrop 
--margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'; pdf2svg '$file_base_name.pdf' 
'$file_base_name.svg'; rm -f '$file_base_name.pdf'; rm -f '$file_base_name.ps'",
"selector": "source.lilypond",
}

This will render and crop a pdf, convert it to svg and delete the pdf. However, 
I don't know why it won't remove the .ps file, or why it is created in the 
first place. Is there a way to prevent Lilypond from creating the .ps file?


Since LilyPond doesn’t have a proper PDF backend, first a .ps file is 
created, which is converted to .pdf afterwards. There is a program 
option to have the intermediate files deleted automatically: 
-ddelete-intermediate-files.


HTH, Simon

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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[potoroo]

Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind.

> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Simon Albrecht :
> 
> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:
>> Thanks, that works. I set up a build system for Sublime (which has Lilypond 
>> syntax highlighting with the SubLilyPond package).
>> 
>> {
>>  "shell_cmd": "lilypond -dno-point-and-click '$file_base_name.ly'; 
>> pdfcrop --margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'; pdf2svg 
>> '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.svg'; rm -f '$file_base_name.pdf'; rm 
>> -f '$file_base_name.ps'",
>>  "selector": "source.lilypond",
>> }
>> 
>> This will render and crop a pdf, convert it to svg and delete the pdf. 
>> However, I don't know why it won't remove the .ps file, or why it is created 
>> in the first place. Is there a way to prevent Lilypond from creating the .ps 
>> file?
>> 
>> 
> Since LilyPond doesn’t have a proper PDF backend, first a .ps file is 
> created, which is converted to .pdf afterwards. There is a program option to 
> have the intermediate files deleted automatically: 
> -ddelete-intermediate-files.
> 
> HTH, Simon


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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[Simon Albrecht]

Am 15.09.2015 um 20:32 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:

Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind.


Huh. Normally it wouldn’t; please try to create a tiny example. Also, 
check the log messages; they should have something like


Converting to `document.pdf'...

Deleting `/tmp/lilypond-s634Nb'...

Success: compilation successfully completed


at the end – the middle of these lines is the deletion of the 
intermediate .ps file.


Yours, Simon




Am 15.09.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Simon Albrecht :

Am 15.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb poto...@posteo.de:

Thanks, that works. I set up a build system for Sublime (which has Lilypond 
syntax highlighting with the SubLilyPond package).

{
"shell_cmd": "lilypond -dno-point-and-click '$file_base_name.ly'; pdfcrop 
--margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'; pdf2svg '$file_base_name.pdf' 
'$file_base_name.svg'; rm -f '$file_base_name.pdf'; rm -f '$file_base_name.ps'",
"selector": "source.lilypond",
}

This will render and crop a pdf, convert it to svg and delete the pdf. However, 
I don't know why it won't remove the .ps file, or why it is created in the 
first place. Is there a way to prevent Lilypond from creating the .ps file?



Since LilyPond doesn’t have a proper PDF backend, first a .ps file is created, 
which is converted to .pdf afterwards. There is a program option to have the 
intermediate files deleted automatically: -ddelete-intermediate-files.

HTH, Simon


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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[potoroo]

My test file ist:

\version "2.18.2"
\pointAndClickOff
\relative {
c' d e f g f e d
c' d e f g f e d
c' d e f g f e d
}
\header { tagline = ##f }
\paper {
line-width=120\mm
oddFooterMarkup=##f
oddHeaderMarkup=##f
bookTitleMarkup = ##f
scoreTitleMarkup = ##f
}

And I use this command:
lilypond -dno-point-and-click -ddelete-intermediate-files test.ly 


The log says this:
»test.ly« wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...
Interpretation der Musik...
Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente...
Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden...
Musik wird auf eine Seite angepasst...
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »test.ps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./test.pdf«...
Kompilation erfolgreich beendet
 
Sometimes no .ps file is left behind, but most of the times it is (> 90%).

> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:46 schrieb Simon Albrecht :
> 
> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:32 schrieb poto...@posteo.de :
>> Unfortunately that didn't work, it still leaves a .ps file behind.
> 
> Huh. Normally it wouldn’t; please try to create a tiny example. Also, check 
> the log messages; they should have something like 
> 
> Converting to `document.pdf'...
> Deleting `/tmp/lilypond-s634Nb'...
> Success: compilation successfully completed
> 
> at the end – the middle of these lines is the deletion of the intermediate 
> .ps file.
> 
> Yours, Simon
> 
>>> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Simon Albrecht  
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Am 15.09.2015 um 20:22 schrieb poto...@posteo.de :
 Thanks, that works. I set up a build system for Sublime (which has 
 Lilypond syntax highlighting with the SubLilyPond package).
 
 {
"shell_cmd": "lilypond -dno-point-and-click '$file_base_name.ly'; 
 pdfcrop --margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'; pdf2svg 
 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.svg'; rm -f '$file_base_name.pdf'; 
 rm -f '$file_base_name.ps'",
"selector": "source.lilypond",
 }
 
 This will render and crop a pdf, convert it to svg and delete the pdf. 
 However, I don't know why it won't remove the .ps file, or why it is 
 created in the first place. Is there a way to prevent Lilypond from 
 creating the .ps file?
 
 
>>> Since LilyPond doesn’t have a proper PDF backend, first a .ps file is 
>>> created, which is converted to .pdf afterwards. There is a program option 
>>> to have the intermediate files deleted automatically: 
>>> -ddelete-intermediate-files.
>>> 
>>> HTH, Simon
> 
> 

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Poor man's ossia, continued

[Menu Jacques]

Hello folks,

Trying to define a function using the solution provided by this list, I bump 
into the following: 
- I have to use \relative before \poorMansOssia, otherwise the music in 
the "ossia" is taken into account to determine the following note’s octave;
- there’s a missing bar in the first staff, can’t find where to put the 
« | » to get it;
- the "ossia" in the second staff is offset to the right, while it 
isn’t in the first one.

There are clearly things I don’t master yet in LP…
Thanks for your help!

JM






\version "2.19.25"

poorMansOssia =
#(define-music-function (parser location music)(ly:music?)
   #{
 \new Voice {
   \voiceThree
   \hide NoteHead
   \override NoteHead.no-ledgers = ##t
   \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t
   \override Beam.beam-thickness = #0.28
   \override Stem.thickness = #0.7
   $music
 }
   #})


\relative c' {
  \time 4/8

  d2 - \markup{ \italic "rall."}  ~ | % 8

  <<
{
  \override Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t
  d8 [
  \tempo "A tempo"
  d'16 \pp -. g,16 -. ]
}
{ \relative \poorMansOssia {c'''16 [ c ] s16 s16} }
  >>
  <<
{
  \override Beam.collision-voice-only = ##t
  d8 [
  \tempo "A tempo"
  d'16 \pp -. g,16 -. ]
}
{ \relative \poorMansOssia {c'''16 [ c ] s16 s16} }
  >>

  \bar "|."
}


MouvementDeuxESSAI =  \relative bes {
  \key bes \major
  \clef "bass"
  \time 4/8

  r8 f8 ( [ c8 cis8 -- ] | % 7
  d2 ) ~ | % 8

  <<
{
  d8 [
  \tempo "A tempo"
  d'16 \pp -. g,16 -. ]
}
{
  \relative { \poorMansOssia { c'16 [ c ] s16 s16 } }
}
  >>

  g4 ~ -- | % 9
  g2 | % 10
  \bar "|."
}

{ \MouvementDeuxESSAI }

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Re: Poor man's ossia, continued

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Malte,

Thanks for you answer.

> Le 15 sept. 2015 à 12:26, Malte Meyn  a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
> Am 15.09.2015 um 10:26 schrieb Menu Jacques:
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> Trying to define a function using the solution provided by this list, I bump
>> into the following:
>> - I have to use \relative before \poorMansOssia, otherwise the music in the
>> "ossia" is taken into account to determine the following note’s octave;
> That’s how relative works: Lily doesn’t automatically start a new “relative 
> block” for new voices. IMO that’s good because it’s easier to find out the 
> pitch of the last entered note than that one of the last note in the current 
> voice.

OK.

>> - there’s a missing bar in the first staff, can’t find where to put the « | 
>> » to
>> get it;
> No, there isn’t. There are only notes for two bars. Did you mean a bar 
> *line*? Then | won’t set a bar line but complain when you place it somewhere 
> and there shouldn’t be a bar line. You might want to use one of the \bar (for 
> a line in mid-measure) or \partial (for a shorter measure) commands or 
> override measureLength or measurePosition (dito).

Ooops, really getting old… thought there were two bars where there’s only one!

>> - the "ossia" in the second staff is offset to the right, while it isn’t in 
>> the
>> first one.
> This happens because the NoteHeads are aligned, even when they are hidden. 
> You can try to override the NoteHead’s stem-attachment or the Stem’s and 
> Beam’s extra-offset but I don’t know how to find the exact values.

Fine, I’ll look into that.

JM.

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Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Ralph Palmer]

>
> On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote:
>
>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users
>>> >and
>>> >developers?
>>>
>> Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty
>
>
Greetings -

Age: 67

Occupation: Retired. I worked for many years (~25) in wood or as a
carpenter; furniture, construction, maintenance carpenter. Then for ~15
years as an Energy Manager.

Music: I've played trombone, guitar, tabla, fiddle/violin (N.E. contradance
music/classical), and viola (N.E. contradance music/classical).

I started with Noteworthy Composer, then added ABC. Noteworthy Composer got
too expensive, so I switched to LilyPond. With Lilypond, I started out on
Linux with straight text entry through emacs. I started having trouble
getting all the pieces to cooperate with ABC on Windows (switched from
Linux in there somewhere), so I moved to LilyPond exclusively. ABC was nice
because there are a *lot* of traditional tunes transcribed with ABC.
Started using Frescobaldi when I started having trouble with emacs on
Windows, I think. I love Frescobaldi. I still use text entry. My most
difficult project so far has been transcribing/transposing Bartok's violin
duets down a fifth so they lie on the viola as they would on the violin,
then down another octave so my cellist wife and I can play the duets. For
personal use only for the next couple of years.

I'm grateful to the list for all the quick and thorough help the members
have been over the years!

Ralph

-- 
Ralph Palmer
Brattleboro, VT
USA
palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com
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Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[holl...@hollandhopson.com]

Age: 44

Occupation: I teach arts and technology at New College, The University of 
Alabama.

Music: I’m a composer and performer. Most of my compositions use live 
electronics in some way, usually via Cycling ‘74 Max. These works often have 
little or no traditionally notated material for the performer. I first looked 
into Lilypond in 2005 or 2006, but didn’t begin using it for my work until 2010 
when I read an article about it on createdigitalmusic.com. I started with 
Lilypond and the command line, then moved to Jedit and Elysium, and now I use 
Frescobaldi. I was initially attracted to Lilypond for creating tablature for 
banjo. No other notation program that I know of comes anywhere close to 
Lilypond’s ability to work with multiple tunings, for example. I’ve since begun 
using it for solo pieces and chamber music—work that involves more notation 
than my electronic pieces. I’ve made a few scores entirely with Lilypond. Most 
of the time, though, I create notated elements with Lilypond and then assemble 
them with Illustrator. My current work uses many aleatoric boxes filled with 
noteheads or rhythms or graphic elements. frameEngraver-bars-and-boxes.ily is 
my friend! And the Lilypond community has always been helpful.

Holland Hopson

Post & Beam  - music for 
banjo and electronics
http://hollandhopson.bandcamp.com/album/post-beam 
"...a haunting, often mesmerizing album of 
old songs and new sounds." -- Michael Eck, Albany Times Union
"...beautifully performed original and traditional folk songs set against an 
electronic dreamworld." -- David Zicarelli, Cycling '74

fieldguide.hollandhopson.com
www.hollandhopson.com

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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[David Wright]

Quoting poto...@posteo.de (poto...@posteo.de):
> I'm using Mac OS. There are no programs accessing the
> files. However, I just noticed that everything is alright the first
> time I render the file. But the second time, when the existing svg
> file needs to be overwritten, the ps file won't get deleted. When I
> delete both the svg and the ps, the ps is deleted again after the next
> run.

Is there some sort of version control going on in the background?
After all, in your script you have:
pdfcrop --margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'
where the output filename is the same as the input filename.

If there is, could your script be deleting a "wrong" version.

(AFAICT in linux, the ps/pdf conversion and deletion is done within
the lilypond binary. I seem to recall a time when the .ps got left
behind but I just deleted it in my script. Linux ext filesystems allow
you to delete files whether or not other processes still have them open.)

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Rendering cropped SVG

[potoroo]

I'm not using any version control here. Notice that the pdf file is deleted 
correctly all the time, only the temporary ps file stays. And I'm not doing 
anything with the ps file after summoning Lilypond. I've used Lilypond before 
without having trouble with the temporary files. I guess I'll just install the 
developer version as suggested.


> Am 15.09.2015 um 22:32 schrieb David Wright :
> 
> Quoting poto...@posteo.de (poto...@posteo.de):
>> I'm using Mac OS. There are no programs accessing the
>> files. However, I just noticed that everything is alright the first
>> time I render the file. But the second time, when the existing svg
>> file needs to be overwritten, the ps file won't get deleted. When I
>> delete both the svg and the ps, the ps is deleted again after the next
>> run.
> 
> Is there some sort of version control going on in the background?
> After all, in your script you have:
> pdfcrop --margins 1 '$file_base_name.pdf' '$file_base_name.pdf'
> where the output filename is the same as the input filename.
> 
> If there is, could your script be deleting a "wrong" version.
> 
> (AFAICT in linux, the ps/pdf conversion and deletion is done within
> the lilypond binary. I seem to recall a time when the .ps got left
> behind but I just deleted it in my script. Linux ext filesystems allow
> you to delete files whether or not other processes still have them open.)
> 
> Cheers,
> David.


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