Re: Best strategie to remove devices from pool

2017-10-18 Thread Austin S. Hemmelgarn

On 2017-10-17 13:58, Cloud Admin wrote:

Hi,
I want to remove two devices from a BTRFS RAID 1 pool. It should be
enough free space to do it, but what is the best strategie. Remove both
device in one call 'btrfs dev rem /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1' (for example) or
should it be better in two separate calls? What is faster? Are there
other constraints to think about?
Ideally, delete them all with a single operation.  Internally the delete 
command uses some numeric trickery together with a balance operation to 
migrate the data off of the devices being removed.  If you do them one 
at a time, you will end up moving at least some data twice, and thus 
wasting time.  Other than that, there's not much to worry ab out, though 
keep in mind that deleting devices from an array can take a long time, 
especially if the array is mostly full.

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Re: Best strategie to remove devices from pool

2017-10-17 Thread Duncan
Cloud Admin posted on Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:58:55 +0200 as excerpted:

> Hi,
> I want to remove two devices from a BTRFS RAID 1 pool. It should be
> enough free space to do it, but what is the best strategie. Remove both
> device in one call 'btrfs dev rem /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1' (for example) or
> should it be better in two separate calls? What is faster? Are there
> other constraints to think about?

As a general policy, I'd first ensure that I had current backups in case 
something goes wrong, unless of course you consider the data trivial 
enough not to bother with backups.  No sense unnecessarily tempting fate. 
=:^\

Then I'd use the two devices in one call remove, because btrfs device 
remove has an implicit rebalance that moves chunks off the device being 
removed to the other available devices, and a rebalance can take awhile, 
so doing two removals at once should go much faster than one at a time.

I'd also suggest that if you use btrfs quota functionality, you disable 
it at least while doing the removes/balances, as trying to recalculate 
the quotas constantly slows things down considerably, and if you have 
lots of subvolume snapshots on the filesystem, I suggest you first delete 
as many of those as you can reasonably delete (and turn off any scheduled 
snapshotting during the remove/rebalance), as well, because they too can 
slow down balances quite a bit.

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Best strategie to remove devices from pool

2017-10-17 Thread Cloud Admin
Hi,
I want to remove two devices from a BTRFS RAID 1 pool. It should be
enough free space to do it, but what is the best strategie. Remove both
device in one call 'btrfs dev rem /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1' (for example) or
should it be better in two separate calls? What is faster? Are there
other constraints to think about?
Bye
Frank
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