Re: [linux-dvb] getting started with msi tv card

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel Dalton
> But your Linux machine will be working with the Transport
> Stream directly, selecting the particular IDs of interest.
> When you look at that particular ID, you see merely a
> datastream including the payload.
> 
> So, just as your TV audio will be carried in a form which
> will be similar to the mp3 files you've certainly used, or
> whatever format, you can also write the teletext data to
> a file and work with that.
> 

Ah, right.


> When you get your tuner working, or one that does, if you
> do receive a teletext service, I'll guide you through the
> steps needed to actually see the content being broadcast.

Alright then, thanks very much.

> and give a feel for how the graphics should appear.
> Maybe a full Unicode X font will include such characters
> and I can simply map them to UTF8, but I'm primarily
> interested in the text content information on my text console.
> 
> Here's the pr0n...
> 
>   ???X???X*XX*???*???   XXX*AMI
>   ???X??*??? ???X?* ???  **
> 
> No, this is not going to work.  There are too many characters
> which are not yet converted to something and I'm having to add
> as `?' by hand.  Anyway, the blocks on the left are used to
> form words; to the right the blocks would be forming the top
> of a female head.
> 

ah, ok... I kinda get it... :-)

Thanks very much Barry for all your help with everything, I greatly
appreciate it.

Cheers,

Daniel.
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Re: [linux-dvb] getting started with msi tv card

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel Dalton
> The idea behind this is that Antti has suggested that your
> tuner may not work well with strong signals, so we are
> wanting to get a somewhat weaker signal.  It could be,

Ah, right, I'll give that ago, thanks.

> though, that you will not get enough of a signal.  This
> all will depend on the distance you are from the transmitter
> site, the power it sends, and what sort of terrain exists
> between you and the sender.
> 
> One thing has popped into my mind -- there are different
> standards for coaxial connectors used in different parts
> of the world for the same function, so I may have a totally
> different idea of what you have...
> 
> Anyway, you are connected to your wall by a cable that
> connects to your device.  Perhaps that cable is connected
> to some sort of push-on or screw-on connector, or maybe
> it is firmly attached to the wall without a connector.
> 

There is a connector on the wall, and I guess an aerial on the roof.

> The part of the connector of interest will be the centre
> conductor.  Through europe, this exists on TV-type tuners
> as an outer ring, somewhat over 1cm diametre, and a smaller
> ring inside with a couple millimetre diametre.  I can actually
> take a length of bell wire or thin electrical wire, fold about
> 1cm of it over on itself, and stick this into that centre
> conductor to make a simple antenna that receives strong
> signals.

Ah, ok. I think I get it now... Makes sense.
> technically-minded friend who can help you with this, it
> may be easiest.

Yep, I'll see if I can get some help.
> Anyway, good luck; it could be that with this you are

Thanks.

> unable to receive any signal whatsoever, in which case all
> the time I spent writing this will have been for nought,

Oh... I'm sorry... I'll give it ago anyway and see what happens, and if
it doesn't work, I'll look online for alternative tuners.

Thanks very much,

Daniel.
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Re: [linux-dvb] getting started with msi tv card

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel Dalton
Hi Barry,

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 01:41:41AM +0100, BOUWSMA Barry wrote:

> Basically, this all means that your tuner sees something,
> but it can't quite lock onto it.
> 
> 

Right.

> > Am I better getting a new card? I got this a couple of years ago when I
> > was on windows, and never used it, so yeh I don't have the original
> > aerial that came with it or the original disks...
> 
> As Antti has suggested, you may have better luck with a
> new different card.
> 

Alright then.

> As an offside, supposedly the linux-dvb mailing list has
> been abandoned by every developer, and only a few DVB-freak
> luddites remain, and in theory, by posting this to the
> linux-media list I should magically reach thousands of
> developers who can fix the support for your card.  Rght.
> 
> For these developers, seeing this for the first time, the
> history behind this thread, including details about the
> card being discussed, are safely archived on the linux-dvb
> mailing list over the past three-or-so days.
> 

ok

> > I'm connecting it to a co-axle point in my home; I lost the original
> > antenna.
> > I'm reasonably sure that point should work fine.
> 
> I will take your word for it; you are welcome to still
> have doubts.  However, if others in your home are able
> to tune digital TV signals, then that pretty much
> points to your device as having problems.
> 

ok

> In place of the original antenna, you can try a short
> length of wire, say, 5cm long for the UHF frequency, to
> about half a metre for the other frequencies.  This will,

What kind of wire? Ear phone? and how do I hook this up to the receiver
since it has a co-axle input plug on it.

> I have worried that what I write might not work when
> converted to speech.  Probably I should not worry, but
> be certain that I do not attempt any ASCII graphics that
> depend on sight, and of a whole screen.  If, by mistake,
> I have done this, please give me the slap I deserve...

Nup, you've done a great job. When using mutt and brltty with my braille
terminal, I've never come across anything I couldn't read (yet:-)) And
that's been over a year.

> Availability seems to depend a lot on geographic
> region, so you are going to want to hear from someone
> also in Australia who can offer suggestions.

I'm probably going to buy off ebay.

> this far, GET A LIFE!!1!  I mean, sorry, here is some

lol :-)



thanks very much Barry, that information is very useful indeed.

Have a good one

Daniel.
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Re: [linux-dvb] getting started with msi tv card

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel Dalton
Hi Barry,

Sorry about the delay, I was out of town for a few days.

> I seem to recall that in Australia, use is made of an MHEG
> service.  I don't know if a regular teletext service is
> available -- you will see this in the results, when you have
> a tuner capable of scanning.

I look forward to finding out... :-)

> trivially converted to braille or spoken.  I'm not sure about

Braille..., what format do they originate in? Is it tv signal, or some
kind of text guide or something?

> the MHEG services, as they seem to place more importance on
> the on-screen appearance, yet they do use a TrueType font.
> 
> Anyway, while conventional teletext is not simple ASCII-like,
> it is based on a hamming of a limited character set which can
> be converted back to a standard 128- or 256-character set
> font, and of course the normal characters can be displayed as
> braille.

oh... ok

> 
> Now, here is an example of some of the useful information
> to be found on a full teletext service, to show that, if it
> were available to you, you might find it interesting.  This
> is a page giving inter-bank exchange rates from the Euro to
> your own currency, and is meant as an example (it's in german,
> but should be trivial to understand)
> 
> /GIP  IG*** PHOENIX Mi 21.01.09 18:01:45
>  PHOENIX.text   2/2
>  Devisenkurse
>  Letzte DatenabfrageDiff.  Kurs-
>  21.01.09, 18:00 UhrVortag zeit
> 
>  USA... (USD)   1,2857  -0,20% 17:59
>  GB (GBP)   0,9369  +0,94% 17:59
>  Schweiz... (CHF)   1,4767  -0,13% 17:59
>  Japan. (JPY) 112,9800  -2,35% 17:59
> 
>  Kanada (CAD)   1,6365  +0,37% 17:59
>  Südafrika. (ZAR)  13,0970  -1,05% 17:50
>  Hongkong.. (HKD)   9,9990  +0,07% 17:49


Thanks, that looks interesting, so does it all depend on what service is
available here in Australia?
> However, my point is that if this type of service is broadcast
> in your area, you may find it interesting and useful, as you
> would be able to make use of the text content within.
> 

Indeed, thanks very much.

Cheers,

Daniel.

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