Powerline networking
I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings. Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing sessions? The actual requirement is to network the various converted outbuildings of an old farm. My guess is that these things turn the copper cables into a kind of giant unswitched 10-base-2 type network. My hunch is that the network is shared across every building on the same loop from the nearest transformer - I don't see how the signal would get through a transformer, and I don't see why anything else would stop it. This is fine, as the devices appear to have some kind of security layer that prevents neighbours reading your network traffic. Has anyone used this stuff? J Jonathan Peterson ___ The BMJ Group is one of the world's most trusted providers of medical information for doctors, researchers, health care workers and patients www.bmjgroup.bmj.com. This email and any attachments are confidential. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and kindly notify us. If the email contains personal views then the BMJ Group accepts no responsibility for these statements. The recipient should check this email and attachments for viruses because the BMJ Group accepts no liability for any damage caused by viruses. Emails sent or received by the BMJ Group may be monitored for size, traffic, distribution and content. BMJ Publishing Group Limited trading as BMJ Group. A private limited company, registered in England and Wales under registration number 03102371. Registered office: BMA House, Tavistock Square, London WC1H 9JR, UK. ___
Re: Powerline networking
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing sessions? Just work. I've used the 85Mbps and 200MBps products from Devolo[0] in a number of properties and have never had any problems with them. Devolo provides Linux tools for configuration (if required), while other manufacturers tend to just do Windows MacOS. .ib [0] http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/index.html
A night at the opera
http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?
Re: Powerline networking
Jonathan Peterson wrote: I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings. Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing sessions? The actual requirement is to network the various converted outbuildings of an old farm. My guess is that these things turn the copper cables into a kind of giant unswitched 10-base-2 type network. My hunch is that the network is shared across every building on the same loop from the nearest transformer - I don't see how the signal would get through a transformer, and I don't see why anything else would stop it. This is fine, as the devices appear to have some kind of security layer that prevents neighbours reading your network traffic. Has anyone used this stuff? I use it to get to the basement, where the wifi doesn't reach. It just works. You just have to make sure that you plug the adaptor straight into the socket, or in a plain extension cord. I found that any kind of power surge protection will break the transmission. The model I have seems to allow some kind of password protection for your network, as well as defining several networks, but I haven't tried it (the software is Windows-only). I used it as a plain ethernet wire. -- mirod
Re: Powerline networking
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings. Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing sessions? The actual requirement is to network the various converted outbuildings of an old farm. Check first that the buildings are all on the same electrical phase: farms can be on 3-phase instead of a single phase. These things will not normally work across phases. And don't try to bridge phases, unless you really understand the power engineering involved.
Re: A night at the opera
David Cantrell wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? I'm in -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
Re: A night at the opera
When? On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?
London.pm on Upcoming
For probably a year or so now, I (and a couple of other people) have been sporadically adding london.pm events to Upcoming (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/). These Perl events usually end up looking pretty badly attended as few people register their attendance. In an attempt to make it a bit easier for people to find london.pm events (and, hopefully, register their attendance) I've created a London.pm group at http://upcoming.yahoo.com/group/12343/. Please consider joining the group and marking on the site when you know you'll be attending one of our events. I think this is an easy way for us to demonstrate just how vibrant (if slightly hidden) the London Perl community is. Cheers, Dave...
Re: A night at the opera
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive Pro mea lingua Graeca est
Re: London.pm on Upcoming
2008/9/26 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For probably a year or so now, I (and a couple of other people) have been sporadically adding london.pm events to Upcoming (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/). These Perl events usually end up looking pretty badly attended as few people register their attendance. In an attempt to make it a bit easier for people to find london.pm events (and, hopefully, register their attendance) I've created a London.pm group at http://upcoming.yahoo.com/group/12343/. Please consider joining the group and marking on the site when you know you'll be attending one of our events. I think this is an easy way for us to demonstrate just how vibrant (if slightly hidden) the London Perl community is. The other day I looked for perl on meetup.com - a group I attend regularly use as a coordination/advertising site. Oddly enough, there were already 17 people saying they were interested in having a Perl meetup. I duly added myself to that list, with a comment of Possibly those seeking a Perl meeting up should have a look at London.pm ? Although the wisdom of this may be questionable - I recognize at least one name as being for a recruiter. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: London.pm on Upcoming
Dominic Thoreau wrote: The other day I looked for perl on meetup.com - a group I attend regularly use as a coordination/advertising site. Oddly enough, there were already 17 people saying they were interested in having a Perl meetup. I duly added myself to that list, with a comment of Possibly those seeking a Perl meeting up should have a look at London.pm ? I used to run the London Perl Meetup group (until, obviously, they started asking for money) and I always set the meeting dates to be the same as london.pm. Not sure if it ever brought in any more attendees. Although the wisdom of this may be questionable - I recognize at least one name as being for a recruiter. Ew. Dangerous :) Dave...
Re: London.pm on Upcoming
Dave Cross wrote: Although the wisdom of this may be questionable - I recognize at least one name as being for a recruiter. Ew. Dangerous :) For the person who aimed the recruiter at London.pm, or for the recruiter themselves? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/
Re: A night at the opera
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. That's two days as I read it: Saturday 11th October at 7.30pm Sunday 12th October at 1.00pm /J\
Re: A night at the opera
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:36:11PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. That's two days as I read it: Saturday 11th October at 7.30pm Sunday 12th October at 1.00pm I didn't think I'd have to spell out the bit about let me know which performances you can make it to, and I'll pick the one that is most convenient and has tickets available. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness Sobol's Law of Telecom Utilities: Telcos are malicious; cablecos are simply clueless.
Re: A night at the opera
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 08:25:13PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:36:11PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. That's two days as I read it: Saturday 11th October at 7.30pm Sunday 12th October at 1.00pm I didn't think I'd have to spell out the bit about let me know which performances you can make it to, and I'll pick the one that is most convenient and has tickets available. 20:43 Nicholas rule 2 20:43 dipsy rule 2 is people are lazy 20:43 Nicholas rule 1 20:43 dipsy rule 1 is people are idiots 20:43 Nicholas rule 0 20:43 dipsy rule 0 is even if you know the rules, you're still a person Why are you surprised? :-/ Nicholas Clark
Re: A night at the opera
On 26 Sep 2008, at 20:25, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:36:11PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. That's two days as I read it: Saturday 11th October at 7.30pm Sunday 12th October at 1.00pm I didn't think I'd have to spell out the bit about let me know which performances you can make it to, and I'll pick the one that is most convenient and has tickets available. For me it was whether I needed a +1. For those days, not so both are perfick. If you book them, they will come. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 49020 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.comNL: +31 654 982906 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Powerline networking
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings. Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/13/solwise_pushes_powerline_sec/ I've four of these, and they mostly work a charm. I gather it can depend a bit on how good your wiring is. Peronally, power-strips (four sockets, with a lead, that expands a wall socket) really kill it. Used directly in the wall sockets, they work really well. One unit didn't. Solwise replaced it without much fuss (after I assured them I can read and following the instructions, and had actually tested it properly).
Re: A night at the opera
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:36:11PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever there's tickets available. That's two days as I read it: Saturday 11th October at 7.30pm Sunday 12th October at 1.00pm I didn't think I'd have to spell out the bit about let me know which performances you can make it to, and I'll pick the one that is most convenient and has tickets available. Count me in, either day is good. -- ilmari A disappointingly low fraction of the human race is, at any given time, on fire. - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
