Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
OS X is a bit of a problem in this regard. cdparanoia via Max is the best GUI solution, as far as I'm concerned, but the metadata goes missing. Using Max in combination with MusicBrainz' Picard tagger would probably work fine. I actually use cdparanoia on the command line to do my ripping. Best, -d. -- Damon Allen Davison http://allolex.net
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:41:52AM +0100, Damon Allen Davison wrote: OS X is a bit of a problem in this regard. cdparanoia via Max is the best GUI solution, as far as I'm concerned, but the metadata goes missing. Using Max in combination with MusicBrainz' Picard tagger would probably work fine. I actually use cdparanoia on the command line to do my ripping. It's fairly trivial to code up a small chunk of code to convert, rename and tag the files one has ripped with CDParanoia. One might even use, oh I don't know, Perl. (Please archive in FLAC if you have the storage space; it will cause the least trouble in the long run, as it is the most widely-supported and least legally-encumbered lossless compression format. Which is not to say you shouldn't also transcode to something lossy for devices with limited storage...) R
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Roger Burton Westro...@firedrake.org wrote: (Please archive in FLAC if you have the storage space; it will cause the least trouble in the long run, as it is the most widely-supported and least legally-encumbered lossless compression format. Which is not to say you shouldn't also transcode to something lossy for devices with limited storage...) I would, but I'm lazy. Laziness involves using itunes to sync my ipod. ipod does not support FLAC. itunes can only even play flac with a third party plugin. Since this plugin doesn't support automatically reencoding when shipping it off to my ipod, it's not really practical. Disk space is cheap and all my CDs are ripped in AAC lossless (which the ipod does support). Keeping a lossless and a lossy copy would be just a bit much even for me though. --James (who is annoyed that rockbox *still* doesn't support his 3rd gen ipod nano).
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:03:30AM +0100, James Laver wrote: [...] Disk space is cheap and all my CDs are ripped in AAC lossless (which the ipod does support). Keeping a lossless and a lossy copy would be just a bit much even for me though. There are evil hacks you can do with smart playlists to let you manage the two separate copies. It's not exactly ideal though.
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
Wow, so much legwork for such a small job. I've converted many hundreds of CDs to MP3 on Windows with iTunes, and have never had any problems with quality, and only minor issues with tagging. Maybe my standards are lower :-) /R Roger Burton West wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:41:52AM +0100, Damon Allen Davison wrote: OS X is a bit of a problem in this regard. cdparanoia via Max is the best GUI solution, as far as I'm concerned, but the metadata goes missing. Using Max in combination with MusicBrainz' Picard tagger would probably work fine. I actually use cdparanoia on the command line to do my ripping. It's fairly trivial to code up a small chunk of code to convert, rename and tag the files one has ripped with CDParanoia. One might even use, oh I don't know, Perl.
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Peter Corlettab...@cabal.org.uk wrote: There are evil hacks you can do with smart playlists to let you manage the two separate copies. It's not exactly ideal though. Smart playlists and their hacky uses make itunes bearable. I have a 'checked' playlist, (where artist != keyboard slam, limit to checked songs only) so that I can ipod what I'm listening to, for example. I can't believe this isn't in built functionality. And no, I have no wish to learn applescript to interact with itunes. --James
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
Yeah, same here. The problem I'm running into now is ropey CDs where the skipping is really obvious, like actual repeating. Jumping on a spoken CD is pretty much intolerable, and it's annoying iTunes will produce that without warning. Does anyone know the Gracenote query URL? Is it even open access these days? That would solve the issue making Max useable. On Jul 29, 2009 11:34 AM, Robert Shiels rob...@se71.org wrote: Wow, so much legwork for such a small job. I've converted many hundreds of CDs to MP3 on Windows with iTunes, and have never had any problems with quality, and only minor issues with tagging. Maybe my standards are lower :-) /R Roger Burton West wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:41:52AM +0100, Damon Allen Davison wrote: ...
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
Why not just delete the b0rked tracks and top them up from alternative online sources? *ahem* On 27 Jul 2009, at 19:19, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. Is there a way to have iTunes bail or retry on rip error? Or software that does? I remember when I was using Grip it would complain on errors which would prompt me to wipe the CD and have another go. It's irritating working thru a pile of CDs and then around town listening and realising there's glitches pops on them. Paul -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:18:21AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: Wow, so much legwork for such a small job. I've converted many hundreds of CDs to MP3 on Windows with iTunes, and have never had any problems with quality, and only minor issues with tagging. Depends on what you want to do. My objective is I will never have to rely on being able to read this rotting piece of mylar again. R
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
Yeah, this is my backup (as it were) plan. Id rather just have something that works to being with-realising it's bust when you're in Fiji on the beach is not ideal :) On Jul 29, 2009 12:08 PM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just delete the b0rked tracks and top them up from alternative online sources? *ahem* On 27 Jul 2009, at 19:19, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. I... -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
OK, well if it's that intolerable, you stay here and I'll go to Fiji and suffer the skips. On 29 Jul 2009, at 12:20, Paul Makepeace wrote: Yeah, this is my backup (as it were) plan. Id rather just have something that works to being with-realising it's bust when you're in Fiji on the beach is not ideal :) On Jul 29, 2009 12:08 PM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just delete the b0rked tracks and top them up from alternative online sources? *ahem* On 27 Jul 2009, at 19:19, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. I... -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://davehodg.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
It's fairly trivial to code up a small chunk of code to convert, rename and tag the files one has ripped with CDParanoia. One might even use, oh I don't know, Perl. I know I do -- http://gist.github.com/158074 A little script I have that rips CDs with cdparanoia, gets the data from freedb, converts to AAC at 256kb VBR and then applies metadata using atomic parsley. (caveat - will not work for anyone out of the box, as I use a version of cdparanoia patched to be quieter) ps. Hello. I normally just lurk. ;) -- Norm.
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:23:50AM +0100, James Laver wrote: [...] And no, I have no wish to learn applescript to interact with itunes. A moment's Googling suggests Mac::AppleScript::Glue would help here.
Decent OS X audio rip software
I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. Is there a way to have iTunes bail or retry on rip error? Or software that does? I remember when I was using Grip it would complain on errors which would prompt me to wipe the CD and have another go. It's irritating working thru a pile of CDs and then around town listening and realising there's glitches pops on them. Paul
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On 27 Jul 2009, at 19:19, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. Is there a way to have iTunes bail or retry on rip error? Or software that does? I remember when I was using Grip it would complain on errors which would prompt me to wipe the CD and have another go. It's irritating working thru a pile of CDs and then around town listening and realising there's glitches pops on them. Paul On my mac at least, there is a button in itunes inviting you to use error correction when ripping CDs, which would be the second best option. --James
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:19, Paul Makepeace wrote: I've just discovered that iTunes will merrily rip CDs with errors and make no mention of this. Is there a way to have iTunes bail or retry on rip error? I've no idea what it does, but there's a Use error-correction on Audio CDs checkbox in the preferences. I haven't tried it, but I looked at Rip and Max for my never- happening re-encode-everything project: http://sbooth.org/Rip/ and http://sbooth.org/Max/ - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/
Re: Decent OS X audio rip software
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Paul Makepeacepa...@paulm.com wrote: Is there a way to have iTunes bail or retry on rip error? Or software that does? I've always used abcde (A Better CD Encoder - http://lly.org/~rcw/abcde/page/) on Linux. You can probably get it to install on Mac OS X, either through Fink (http://www.finkproject.org/) or just compiling from source. Example usage: ~$ abcde -o mp3:-b 192 -d /dev/cdrom - Alex
