[Lubuntu-desktop] bzr and lubuntu-default-settings
Julien, I've grabbed the bzr tree for lubuntu-default-settings from the location in its debian/control file, which is lp:~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-default-settings I edited things (for bug #650432), built and tested the package, committed locally, signed my commit, and pushed the change back. However, I'm concerned at the use of +junk here. +junk is (as far as I know) used for personal stuff and informal tests, not for "real" packages. Could you explain why the Lubuntu team is using +junk here? Also, I'm about to do another commit that fixes some lintian warnings and info messages -- please let me know if you don't want me to fix up the package in that way :) Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Ubuntu build infrastructure
I was asking a question in #ubuntu-motu about exactly how Ubuntu builds livecd ISOs, and when persia (Emmett Hickory) asked me why I was interested, I mentioned Lubuntu, and his response was: > Right. I've been procrastinating about Lubuntu too long. > I'll put something on the wiki (note that it will only be draft) That sounds encouraging to me, so I thought I'd share it here :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu development process documentation, etc.
Naveen, As with all Launchpad mailing lists, *please* hit "Reply to All" so that your replies go to the list, not just to the one person who write the message you are replying to :) On 02/12/2011 01:20 AM, Naveen Agrawal wrote: > I think I was not clear here. But I was talking about a knowledge > base area for development work like bugsquad team has for bug handling. If there is already a sufficient base of knowledge, go for it. It took years for the bugsquad docs to reach their current form, and they have a much larger team of bug hunters/triagers to draw from. > Also we need to form a bug reporting & triaging page for Lubuntu > where we can link the already documented resources of Ubuntu which > are common to Lubuntu. Adding information about how to subscribe and > report bug related to Lubuntu. How is that different from how to subscribe and report bugs in other Ubuntu flavours? Launchpad is the same for subscribing to bugs, and the ubuntu-bug program is in Lubuntu just as it is in other flavours, as far as I know. If there is no difference, then we should (IMO) not create a special separate Lubuntu page -- doing so just makes Lubuntu appear more different than it really is from the other ubuntu's. >> What particular aspects of Lubuntu's development do you find >> undocumented, that you would like to work on? Which Lubuntu >> specific bugs are you trying to develop fixes for? > I was trying to work on lxpanel bugs. That's LXDE development more than Lubuntu development, but OK. > I tried to search for its development documentation but could not > find a good resource except a small wiki page. I'd guess that the number of developers of lxpanel is so small there may not be a fully realized "team culture" for it yet, or else those who are working on it are experienced developers who have not yet made the time to create developer docs. If you have specific questions you can email PCMan, whose email address is the top one in the list of developers in the AUTHORS file in the source tarball of lxpanel. > I am looking for more detailed information about the lxpanel feature. lxpanel is an app, not a "feature" -- I think? > I am stuck with many question. How is the source code arranged into different > files? apt-get source lxpanel would get you the answer to that, in the form of the packaged source tree to look through :) > What are the coding guidelines for it? Probably no formal ones, so just make any new code look like the existing code ... if you submit a patch and someone says "first make it fit our coding guidelines", they will tell you where to find the guidelines :) > I'd suggest hanging out on IRC in #lubuntu and #lubuntu-offtopic , and > asking specific questions there, as one way to get over your initial > difficulty. > I have been part of lubuntu since mid January and can be normally > found in #lubuntu and #lubuntu-offtopic between 10:00-18:00(UTC) as > 'Wolfpack'. Cool! > From now on, I will be buzzing you whenever I need help. :-) Ah no :) Please ask the channel, not just one person. I am not an LXDE developer. I am a fairly experienced programmer, network and system admin, and I have done a moderate amount of Ubuntu packaging work, so I am acting much more as a "generally useful technical person" for Lubuntu, not an LXDE dev! I've unpacked and read the lxpanel code, but have not patched it or really examined it in depth line by line, so for detailed LXDE questions, you'll be better off asking others. >> Are you volunteering to work on creating this? Sounds good to me :) > I am ready to work on restructuring the wiki of Lubuntu. I am > looking to add a basic guide for beginner developers at start. Then > as we keep on fixing bugs we can add more information to it. Sounds fine. Just do it. Phill W seems to be the local wiki expert if you need help with the wiki stuff itself. > Also, what I think is to create a small target for each week and > divide the work into small teams. We don't have enough active developers for that, I think. Better to just have the "lead developer" (currently Julien as far as I can see) create a TODO list, and then devs can pick from that whichever items they feel they are interested in and have the skills to handle. Or, devs can just look at lubuntu-related bugs and fix any of them they want to, which is how I recently got started with bug #650432 -- not really a "needs code" bug at all, just editing an XML .menu file, but... it got me started :) > As developer, we can focus 1 package at a time .First trying to > collect all the information of that package as developer point of > view. Then create a wiki page (taking help of our WIKI team) for it > and add all the information to it and link it to Developer knowledge > base area. After that we can work on bug fixing of that package and > update more information from our experience.This way we will able to > focus on our target and will create a knowledge base area for ne
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from "Preferences" to "System Tools" (submenus or not)
On 02/12/2011 04:32 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > 2011/2/11 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > For me at least, if everything would be merged into one only sub-menu > i would know where to do something that normally i won't use every > day of my normal use of a computer. So, in favor of space There is really no "space" issue, since there is one "System" item at the first level of menus, in either case. > and practicity i'm with Julien on this. It would remind me a little > of XP wich honestly, was good. Let's try an example. Time and Date settings. In XP, in a default install, you need to do Start -> Control Panel -> "Date, Time, Language and Regional Options" -> Change the Date and Time Four clicks (with a nasty multi-second delay for the Control Panel app to appear, on a slow PC with low RAM! Oh, and then you have to close the Control Panel again when you are done). In Lubuntu, with my currently proposed menus, you would do Bird -> System -> Administration -> Time and Date Also four clicks, but no long delay between them, and no "control panel" needing to be closed afterwards :) Also, the original submitter of the bug report for this bug (LP bug #650432) just commented: thank you very much. I have changed the file and I am perfectly satisfied. I hope this will become the default for the distribution? So he's happy with it as is, it would seem :) If Julien wants to change it to remove the submenus, fine, I won't fight that, it's not that important to me. If someone tells me this is OK as it is, I'll happily create a bzr branch for lubuntu-default-settings to be merged. Actually I may do that anyway, and Julien can then either accept it or reject it. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] JackyAlcie
Hiyas Jacky, well what can I say? To be immediately elected to UBT means they have been stalking you for a while (they do have a habit of doing so). Congratultions to you and the UBT team for getting an excellent new member but also to to speechcontrol and accessbiltiy for getting another person onto the team to push the cause. For those that do yet not yet know him, he is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jackyalcine Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from "Preferences" to "System Tools" (submenus or not)
Guys: 2011/2/11 Jonathan Marsden > On 02/11/2011 04:43 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Thanks Jonathan. I can't see the benefit of the 2 sub-menu > > "Administration" and "System tools". Why not merged them into 1 ? 1 > > thing I like in the LXDE/Lubuntu menu is that everything is quickly > > available. What do you think ? > So to me, it makes sense as is. I was looking for a "happy medium" > between "everything vaguely System related goes into one big System > menu", and the old way of "System Preferences" apps not even being > noticeably "System" oriented in the menus, which I think is unfortunate > -- the difference between a per-user change and a per-machine change is > significant. > But I'm not (yet?) a long-term every day Lubuntu or LXDE user. I am > more used to the Ubuntu GNOME menu structure, which has System -> > Administration -> Synaptic (for example)... so reflecting that in > Lubuntu makes it much easier for me, personally, to find things, than > when Synaptic was in Preferences :) That doesn't mean my way will suit > everyone, though. > > Jonathan > For me at least, if everything would be merged into one only sub-menu i would know where to do something that normally i won't use every day of my normal use of a computer. So, in favor of space and practicity i'm with Julien on this. It would remind me a little of XP wich honestly, was good. About control center: isn't there a way to start a window of pcmanfm without the adress column to make the pcmanfm-control-center?!?!?? How sad :'( -- >> jpxsat >> Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) >> Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
