Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:42 + Martin Olesen wrote: > 2011/12/21 Yorvyk : > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 > > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > >> First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) > >> > >> Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete > >> (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, > >> so there was no "market" there). > >> Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource > >> releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) > >> Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS > >> *ubuntu could exist for i586... > >> I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. > >> > > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's absence? > > I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify > > it's inclusion. > > > > If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12 > (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300 > MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose. > > I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget > about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware. > Lubuntu is intended to support older hardware. There are, however, recent machines, based on the Geode LX chip , that are not fully i686 compatible. But, how many is the problem. I can understand the Ubuntu devs not wishing to support large numbers of kernels, especially as there are now a number of ARM kernels in the repos to be supported. Like the PAE kernel problem, with the Celeron M, are there enough users to test and support the appropriate kernels. I really don't know which way to go on this one to be honest. But, in both cases, it's not just about last centuries hardware. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
No, I think you're wrong. However, the more newer CPU's which only support i586 (AMD Geode and others (I'd have to look it up to be sure thou)) also support PAE. So your assumption might be correct, but for the wrong reasons. With metta, Chris On Dec 22, 2011 1:24 PM, "Martin Olesen" wrote: > 2011/12/21 Yorvyk : > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 > > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > >> First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) > >> > >> Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete > >> (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in > it, > >> so there was no "market" there). > >> Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource > >> releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) > >> Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the > LTS > >> *ubuntu could exist for i586... > >> I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. > >> > > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's > absence? I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to > justify it's inclusion. > > > > -- > > Yorvyk > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12 > (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300 > MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose. > > I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget > about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware. > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
2011/12/21 Yorvyk : > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > >> First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) >> >> Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete >> (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, >> so there was no "market" there). >> Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource >> releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) >> Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS >> *ubuntu could exist for i586... >> I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. >> > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's absence? > I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify it's > inclusion. > > -- > Yorvyk > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12 (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300 MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose. I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) > > Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete > (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, > so there was no "market" there). > Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource > releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) > Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS > *ubuntu could exist for i586... > I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's absence? I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify it's inclusion. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, so there was no "market" there). Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS *ubuntu could exist for i586... I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
