Re: lug-bg: от коя дистрибуция на Дебиан ми е пакета

2004-08-15 Thread Andrei Boyanov
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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread Alexander Panov
Няма връщане назад. С някоя Live Дистрибуция си архивираш и копираш на друга машина 
home директориите и слагаш наново Linux-а

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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 15 August 2004 17:34, George Danchev wrote:
--cut--
> > predlagam ti da izpolzvash dfsbuild paketa da druga debian machina za da
> > si syzdadesh rescue live cd image za tvoqta arch ili napravo da to4nesh
> > gotov image ot http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/
> >
> > boot-vash ot nego i
> > dpkg-repack dpkg apt
> > koeto ste t create-ne tezi paketi v cwd.
> > mount broken-hda-partition /mnt/nesto

Ooops, predi chroot, gledash dali apt versiqta v dfsbuild i tazi na harda ti 
sa ednakvi i cp /usr/bin/apt-* /mnt/neto/usr/bin/ 
cp /usr/bin/dpkg* /mnt/nesto/usr/bin/
Ako ne sa ednakvi teglish tvoqta versiq debs ot sid ili snapshot.debian.net:
ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_0.5.27_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.27_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.10.23_i386.deb

ar -x file.deb
tar -xfvz data.tar.gz
cp usr/bin/apt-* /mnt/nesto/usr/bin

taka procedirash i za perl, debsums i tam vij oste kakvo ste ti trqbva da za 
mojesh da rabotish samostoqtelno sys system-a ot hda, a ne v chroot-a.

> > chroot /mnt/nesto
> > mount -t proc none /proc
> > dpkg -i oniq dpkg i apt deto gi repack-na
> > moje i tuka da vdignesh mreja i apt-get --reinstall spisyk ot paketi kato
> > base-files base-config i t.n.
> > Ot tova polojenie moje i da debootstrap-nesh woody/sarge/sid (tam s kakvo
> > si) w nqkoq nezavisima dir na hda-to da go imash pod ryka.
> > umount /proc ; exit
> >
> > boot ot hda, dano ne reve mnogo za nenamereni files ot /usr ;-) ako mnogo
> > reve se vrystash na dfsbuild environment-a i slagash tam za kakvoto reve
> > ;-)
> >
> > ot hdd-to ve4e
> > dpkg -l | awk '{print $1 $2}'
> > i triesh revodete zapo4vashti s "rc", da ostanat samo tezi zapo4vashti s
> > "ii", no pak gledash vsi4ki da si imash edno na um.
> > apt-get --reinstall install `cat spisyka paketi`
> >
> > razbirash ideqta kakva e
> >
> > > livecd Knoppix or Debian based 4rez , koeto da si instaliram dpkg/apt
> > > ediniq wariatn e
> > >
> > > ./configure --prefix=/mnt/Debianonhda ...
> > > make
> > > make install
> > > na dpkg i posle
> > > dpkg -i apt...
> > > apt-get --reinstal *
> > >
> > > kato neznam dali * -ta 6te podejstwa kato wsi4ko :(
> >
> > ami ste stane da go build ot src ot cvs-a ili ot debian source package,
> > ako imash syotvetnite build-depends, ama stom kazvash 4e e stignalo do
> > "s", zna4i nqmash make, za autoconf nqma da govorim ;-) moje da gi
> > repack-nesh i tqh de.
>
> zabravih da obadq 4e kogato ve4e imash rabotesti apt, dpkg, perl i t.n.
> base utils na systema ot hard da instalirash debsums (depends on
> perl,libdigest-md5-perl) za da se uverish dali imash oste instalirani
> paketi 4iijto filove si bil del-nal s rm. Sega debsums bez argumenti ste
> 4ekva dosta, pyk ako iskash mu podaj spisyka ot instaliranite paketi na
> tvoqta sistema (man debsums)
> Eto kakvo kazva ako sym si del-nal /bin/ed:
> 
> usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz OK
> usr/share/info/ed.info.gz OK
> debsums: can't open ed file bin/ed (No such file or directory)

za da razberesh /bin/ed v koj paket e: dpkg -S /bin/ed 

> sledva apt-get --reinstall install ed i t.n. stava qsno.
> Ako imash installed packages bez sumi (debsums -l) naj-dobre gi reinstall.
> Tova e za sobstveno ubejdenie 4e zada4ata po vyzstanovqvaneto e zavyrshila.

Vsystnost vednaga sled kato si dostavish rabotesti apt-get, dpkg, debsums, 
perl v /usr/bin/ zapo4vash inspekciq s debsums i re-instalirash samo tezi 
paketi 4ijto files pokazva 4e lipsvat ot /usr/bin/... za da ne reinstall 
vsi4ko. Back-ni si i staroto /etc da ima, ako nesto promenish i tam.

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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 15 August 2004 15:56, George Danchev wrote:
> On Saturday 14 August 2004 17:59, Dimitar Tomow wrote:
> > Izw. za lat. Winboze, 6te byda kratyk.
>
> na 6lokavica stoto gledam se oplakvash ;-)
>
> > Okaza se 4e e stignal do na4aloto na doc i tam sym go sprql , nama i
> > pomenot /usr/bin ... i sega idwa typata 4ast za men , neiskam da obivdam
> > nikoj ili ni6to , no kak move programi kato dpkg i apt da sa w /usr/bin
> > ... spored men ili /bin , ili dave /sbin ... Kak move programite
> > izgravda6ti debian da sa w /usr/bin ... uvas za men :|
>
> ima si FHS, debian-policy i t.n. tam pishe sto.
>
> > apt
> > no such ...apt
> > cd /var/cache/apt/archives
> > ls | grep apt
> > dpkg -i apt_some-version_i386.deb
> > no such ... dpkg
> >
> > wypros pri polovenie 4e nqma i gcc kak za boga da kompiliram / instaliram
> > dpkg , posle apt :??
> >
> > ili kak da recsbf24 + nqkoj programi :?
> > ili po-qsno kazano:
>
> predlagam ti da izpolzvash dfsbuild paketa da druga debian machina za da si
> syzdadesh rescue live cd image za tvoqta arch ili napravo da to4nesh gotov
> image ot http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/
>
> boot-vash ot nego i
> dpkg-repack dpkg apt
> koeto ste t create-ne tezi paketi v cwd.
> mount broken-hda-partition /mnt/nesto
> chroot /mnt/nesto
> mount -t proc none /proc
> dpkg -i oniq dpkg i apt deto gi repack-na
> moje i tuka da vdignesh mreja i apt-get --reinstall spisyk ot paketi kato
> base-files base-config i t.n.
> Ot tova polojenie moje i da debootstrap-nesh woody/sarge/sid (tam s kakvo
> si) w nqkoq nezavisima dir na hda-to da go imash pod ryka.
> umount /proc ; exit
>
> boot ot hda, dano ne reve mnogo za nenamereni files ot /usr ;-) ako mnogo
> reve se vrystash na dfsbuild environment-a i slagash tam za kakvoto reve
> ;-)
>
> ot hdd-to ve4e
> dpkg -l | awk '{print $1 $2}'
> i triesh revodete zapo4vashti s "rc", da ostanat samo tezi zapo4vashti s
> "ii", no pak gledash vsi4ki da si imash edno na um.
> apt-get --reinstall install `cat spisyka paketi`
>
> razbirash ideqta kakva e
>
> > livecd Knoppix or Debian based 4rez , koeto da si instaliram dpkg/apt
> > ediniq wariatn e
> >
> > ./configure --prefix=/mnt/Debianonhda ...
> > make
> > make install
> > na dpkg i posle
> > dpkg -i apt...
> > apt-get --reinstal *
> >
> > kato neznam dali * -ta 6te podejstwa kato wsi4ko :(
>
> ami ste stane da go build ot src ot cvs-a ili ot debian source package, ako
> imash syotvetnite build-depends, ama stom kazvash 4e e stignalo do "s",
> zna4i nqmash make, za autoconf nqma da govorim ;-) moje da gi repack-nesh i
> tqh de.

zabravih da obadq 4e kogato ve4e imash rabotesti apt, dpkg, perl i t.n. base 
utils na systema ot hard da instalirash debsums (depends on 
perl,libdigest-md5-perl) za da se uverish dali imash oste instalirani paketi 
4iijto filove si bil del-nal s rm. Sega debsums bez argumenti ste 4ekva 
dosta, pyk ako iskash mu podaj spisyka ot instaliranite paketi na tvoqta 
sistema (man debsums)
Eto kakvo kazva ako sym si del-nal /bin/ed:

usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz OK
usr/share/info/ed.info.gz OK
debsums: can't open ed file bin/ed (No such file or directory)

sledva apt-get --reinstall install ed i t.n. stava qsno.
Ako imash installed packages bez sumi (debsums -l) naj-dobre gi reinstall.
Tova e za sobstveno ubejdenie 4e zada4ata po vyzstanovqvaneto e zavyrshila.

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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 14 August 2004 17:59, Dimitar Tomow wrote:
> Izw. za lat. Winboze, 6te byda kratyk.

na 6lokavica stoto gledam se oplakvash ;-)

> Okaza se 4e e stignal do na4aloto na doc i tam sym go sprql , nama i
> pomenot /usr/bin ... i sega idwa typata 4ast za men , neiskam da obivdam
> nikoj ili ni6to , no kak move programi kato dpkg i apt da sa w /usr/bin ...
> spored men ili /bin , ili dave /sbin ... Kak move programite izgravda6ti
> debian da sa w /usr/bin ... uvas za men :|

ima si FHS, debian-policy i t.n. tam pishe sto.

> apt
> no such ...apt
> cd /var/cache/apt/archives
> ls | grep apt
> dpkg -i apt_some-version_i386.deb
> no such ... dpkg
>
> wypros pri polovenie 4e nqma i gcc kak za boga da kompiliram / instaliram
> dpkg , posle apt :??
>
> ili kak da recsbf24 + nqkoj programi :?
> ili po-qsno kazano:

predlagam ti da izpolzvash dfsbuild paketa da druga debian machina za da si 
syzdadesh rescue live cd image za tvoqta arch ili napravo da to4nesh gotov 
image ot http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/

boot-vash ot nego i 
dpkg-repack dpkg apt 
koeto ste t create-ne tezi paketi v cwd.
mount broken-hda-partition /mnt/nesto
chroot /mnt/nesto
mount -t proc none /proc
dpkg -i oniq dpkg i apt deto gi repack-na
moje i tuka da vdignesh mreja i apt-get --reinstall spisyk ot paketi kato 
base-files base-config i t.n.
Ot tova polojenie moje i da debootstrap-nesh woody/sarge/sid (tam s kakvo si) 
w nqkoq nezavisima dir na hda-to da go imash pod ryka.
umount /proc ; exit

boot ot hda, dano ne reve mnogo za nenamereni files ot /usr ;-) ako mnogo reve 
se vrystash na dfsbuild environment-a i slagash tam za kakvoto reve ;-) 

ot hdd-to ve4e 
dpkg -l | awk '{print $1 $2}'
i triesh revodete zapo4vashti s "rc", da ostanat samo tezi zapo4vashti s "ii", 
no pak gledash vsi4ki da si imash edno na um.
apt-get --reinstall install `cat spisyka paketi`

razbirash ideqta kakva e 

> livecd Knoppix or Debian based 4rez , koeto da si instaliram dpkg/apt
> ediniq wariatn e
>
> ./configure --prefix=/mnt/Debianonhda ...
> make
> make install
> na dpkg i posle
> dpkg -i apt...
> apt-get --reinstal *
>
> kato neznam dali * -ta 6te podejstwa kato wsi4ko :(

ami ste stane da go build ot src ot cvs-a ili ot debian source package, ako 
imash syotvetnite build-depends, ama stom kazvash 4e e stignalo do "s", zna4i 
nqmash make, za autoconf nqma da govorim ;-) moje da gi repack-nesh i tqh de.

> izwoda: make backup , mirrordir or RAID1 !!!

moje bi da ;-) 

> Ehh da imah po-golqm hard-disk
>
> delq go na 2 uslowno i mirror 1-4ast na 2-4ast
>
> /dev/hda1 mirror na /dev/hda6
> /dev/hda2 mirror na /dev/hda7
> primerno i t.n :((
>
> kato si mislq 4e misleh i po edno wreme da maham winboze-to ... pyk to 6te
> me gleda , dokato izmislq naj-dobriq na4in. Makar 4e imam edno/dwe
> LiveCD-ta ... Hyh tolkowa sym go polzwal 4e dave i kirilizaciq si nqma ,
> izwinete za koeto :(

s livecd image na dfsbuild i utilkite na nego sym vyzstanovqval i po-tejki 
namesi na razni friend-ove izjivqvashti se kato root potrebiteli. Tova sa 
home machini, kvi backupi ;-) 

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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread Vesselin Markov
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> как разбрах , ами по-това че е стигнал до skype, чак до буква S , да го
>  бърз е гада ..., то аз съм си виновен , но ...
>
> и забравих:
>
> ext3 fs
> 17GB дял
> Debian GNU/Linux (unstable)

Имаш проблем - не можеш да възстановиш изтрита информация от ext3 дял.
При изтриване на файл, inode информацията също се занулява, като това
всъщност е един от unlink restore feature-ите на fs-а. Виж, при ext2 щеше
да имаш шанс с debugfs или recover.

Тук е мястото да се припомни че наличиeто на backup policy е 1/2 от
системното администриране при всяка ОС. Happy reinstalling един вид..

В.
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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread Atanas Stoyanov
On Saturday 14 August 2004 17:59, Dimitar Tomow wrote:
> Izw. za lat. Winboze, 6te byda kratyk.
>
> Okaza se 4e e stignal do na4aloto na doc i tam sym go sprql , nama i
> pomenot /usr/bin ... i sega idwa typata 4ast za men , neiskam da obivdam
> nikoj ili ni6to , no kak move programi kato dpkg i apt da sa w /usr/bin ...
> spored men ili /bin , ili dave /sbin ... Kak move programite izgravda6ti
> debian da sa w /usr/bin ... uvas za men :|

Точно в /usr трябва да са.
root fs трява да е малка, по разбираеми причини.

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html

/Нако

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Re: lug-bg: RE: rm -rf /usr (***** **)

2004-08-15 Thread Atanas Stoyanov
Привет
Няколко идеи:

Виж дали ще моежеш да направиш нещо с :
- cdebootstrap:  cdebootstrap is used to create a Debian base system from 
scratch, without requiring the availability of dpkg or apt.
- debootstrap: debootstrap is used to create a Debian base system from 
scratch, without requiring the availability of dpkg or apt. It does this by
 downloading .deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them
 into a directory which can eventually be chrooted into.
... на някоя друга машина, след което да копираш фаиловете които ти 
трябват(/usr/*), или да ползваш Knoppix (ако има debootstrap). 

Или просто инсталираи Debian наново - без да триеш partitions, като преди това 
архивираш /etc (tar се намира в /bin - така че не си го изтрил.).

/Нако

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