Re: Outline mode won't open for me.

2011-03-29 Thread Pete Crite
On 30/3/2011, at 11:24 AM, BH wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Pete Crite  wrote:
>> Hmm… still doesn't work. Nothing happens when I click the book icon. I had 
>> already tried with another user account, so I guess it's unsurprising that 
>> this didn't work. Is there anything else I could try?
> 
> Are you sure nothing happens? It should bring up a small window that
> stays on top of other windows. If you're using 2 monitors, it's
> conceivable that that window is on a different monitor.
> 
> Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.
> 
> BH

Nope, nothing at all. I've tried with one monitor. I also tried using a Linux 
installation of 1.6.5 (I think), and that works fine, just not with the OS X 
version. I've just downloaded the 2.0rc2 for OS X, and it's actually working 
there, so I guess it's a moot point now anyway.

Thanks for your help!
Pete.

Windows AltInstaller for LyX 2.0.0rc2

2011-03-29 Thread Michal Skrzypek
In absence of the official maintainer (Uwe Stöhr) of LyX Alternate
Installer for Windows, I've stepped in and created 'unofficial'
installer for LyX version 2.0.0rc2.

As I'm not a LyX developer, I'm not really sure about the quality of
this installer. It worked for me, though.

For now the file is hosted on hotfile. If someone is willing to host
this and future versions of 'my' installer, please contact me off the
list.

The location follows:

http://hotfile.com/dl/112501138/0daf7c2/LyX-2.0.0rc2-AltInstaller.zip.html

WARNING!!!
==

THIS INSTALLER CONFLICTS WITH LyX 1.6.x !!!

So, don't try to install LyX 2.0 together with LyX 1.6 - it will
destroy/overwrite LyX 1.6 settings.

For details, see http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7315). I still
cannot find where the path to the LyX settings is hardcoded in the
installer (aside from Settings.nsh), so the bug will remain there for
the time being...

You have been warned...

Technical details
-

To compile LyX, I've used msvc 2008 express together with SCons, which
is the recommended route for compiling LyX 2.0.0-beta4. For some reasons
unknown to me, it is no longer the case with 2.0.0-rc1 (there, msvc 2010
with CMake are recommended)

Attached in the 'src' directory is a small patch to SConstruct I've
made (commenting out 3 lines).

Then I've used the 'LyxPackage' released semi-officially
by Uwe Stöhr for LyX 2.0beta3, replaced and changed some files,
and finally built the installer.

In case of any problems you can mail me, but I can't promise
anything (please CC me, as I am not subscribed there).

Regards,
Michał Skrzypek


Cursor Color LyX 2.0RC2

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Kise

Hey LyXers,

First, I love that we can now increase the cursor size! Thanks!

Second, did we lose the ability to change the cursor color? I see that  
"cursor" is absent from the color preferences. Any way to change the  
cursor color like before?


Cheers!
~g


Re: Outline mode won't open for me.

2011-03-29 Thread BH
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Pete Crite  wrote:
> Hmm… still doesn't work. Nothing happens when I click the book icon. I had 
> already tried with another user account, so I guess it's unsurprising that 
> this didn't work. Is there anything else I could try?

Are you sure nothing happens? It should bring up a small window that
stays on top of other windows. If you're using 2 monitors, it's
conceivable that that window is on a different monitor.

Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.

BH


Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-29 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Hi,

is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
several files?

It's rather tedious having to do this manually if you have to make a
change to several files...

el


Re: LYX software query

2011-03-29 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 3/29/11 1:52 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
[...]
> You can point MiKTeX's package manager at any "repository", which can be one
> downloaded to a local or networked drive.  The repository is not a server (in
> the sense that no software daemon runs); it's just a directory (and 10^100
> subdirectories).  If you have multiple users, this might be useful.  For a
> single user, I don't see how it is any better than having a complete MiKTeX 
> user
> installation (complete = contains all possible packages).
[...]

The original poster was asking about a corporate environment, in other
words someone from the IT department needs to control outside access and
once the imported things are vetted they can be made available to the
user(s).

"Makework" but it can be done :-)-O

el


Re: rcs-multi and LyX 2.0 RC1

2011-03-29 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 3/29/11 8:27 AM, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2011-03-28, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
[...]
>> When I export the master document to pdflatex the children do not have
>> the preamble, so the output is technically correct, however undesired.
> 
>> How do I achieve the wanted behaviour so I an see when I last edited a
>> particular page?
> 
> You can try to put
>  \rcsid{$Id$}
> in an ERT inset (if it is allowed in the main document part).
[...]

Thanks, works.

However, what I really need to do, is to put the

\usepackage{rcs-multi}
\usepackage[draft]{pdfdraftcopy}
\draftfontsize{60}
\draftcolor{gray20}

in each preamble and then

\rcsid{$Id$}
\draftstring{v\rcsfilerev, \rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}

in ERT into each file.

because that way I can pdflatex the whole master document, but also each
individual one on its own :-)-O

This is very cool, but I think one should look at a Request for Feature,
because this situation is surely not unique :-)-O

el


ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.0.0 (release candidate 2)

2011-03-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Release of LyX version 2.0.0 (release candidate 2)
==

We are pleased to announce the second release candidate of LyX 2.0.0.

Due to the numerous requests we added more sets of toolbar icons (based on
Oxygen and LibreOffice themes) which can be easily changed in preferences.

The file RELEASE-NOTES lists some known issues and problems compared
to the current stable releases (LyX 1.6). We strongly recommend to read
this file for packagers of LyX on various platforms and distributions.

As with any major release we come with lot of new features but also
bugs -- so while we encourage curious users to test this release, people
who rely on solid and stable application should stay with 1.6 releases.
Please report the problems and bugs at our lists or bug tracker.

Tarballs can be found at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.0/ .
Binaries should follow soon.

LyX 2.0.0 will be culmination of more than two years of hard work
and you can find an overview of the new features here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20

If you think you found a bug in LyX 2.0.0, either e-mail the LyX
developers' mailing list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org), or open a bug
report at http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX and http://wiki.lyx.org.
If you can't find the answer there, e-mail the LyX users' list
(lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

We hope you will enjoy the result!

The LyX team.
http://www.lyx.org


Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 3/29/11 4:05 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
[...]
> however lyx support only .lyx files, not files like bibliography
> or pictures around.  these need to be manually added so if you
> don't intend to become commandline capable, the lyx support of
> version control won't be enough for you.
[...]

If you use SVN so why not dump the BIB file into the sucker and use
a little make script.  So you'd have to remember to run make, but
that's not too bad :-)-O

el


Re: Outline mode won't open for me.

2011-03-29 Thread Pete Crite
Hmm… still doesn't work. Nothing happens when I click the book icon. I had 
already tried with another user account, so I guess it's unsurprising that this 
didn't work. Is there anything else I could try?

Cheers,
Pete.

On 30/3/2011, at 1:10 AM, BH wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>> Sounds broken, yes. Try moving (renaming) your local configuration
>> directory, wherever that is
> 
> ... On Mac that would be ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6.
> 
> BH



Re: Fwd: Lyx -> latex -> Lyx - cycle not working for very simple file

2011-03-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 29/03/11 19:02, Georg Baum a écrit :

This is a known problem. tex2lyx does not support listings
(http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5194) or the standard verbatim environment
(http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5408) at all. Fixing this is possible, but
not easy, since the usual TeX parsing cannot be used for listings and
verbatim code. It needs to be modified depending on the given listings
settings, i.e. the escape character. Therefore I would not expect that this
bug gets fixed soon.


Since we use catcodes, it should be possible without too much sweat, but 
things will probably become interesting as soon as somebody actually 
tries to do it :)


JMarc


Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:18 PM, stefano franchi
 wrote:
> (i.e. RCS, SVN, Git?, etc.). In other words, I must  learn how to use
>
As for frontends, I had good experience with RapidSVN and SmartGit,
both cross-platform.
Liviu


Re: directed graphs and benchmarks in lyx

2011-03-29 Thread Paul A . Rubin
I use the TiKZ/PGF LaTeX package.  Examples can be seen at
http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/.

Paul




Re: More hyperref bogosity

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 24 March 2011 17:28:57 Jacob Bishop wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Steve Litt 
wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have an appendix listing the several processes in my book, with cross
> > references pointing to the pages on which these processes are discussed,
> > using
> > a text:myprocess-discussion-start and text:myprocess-discussion-end
> > labels within the book's text. All of the cross references print the
> > correct page number, but several go to the wrong page (an earlier page)
> > if you click them.
> > However, many of the cross references go to the correct page when
> > clicked. I
> > see no distinction between the ones that screw up and the ones that work
> > correctly.
> > 
> > Before I take a half a day or more slowly deconstructing this 110,000
> > word book to form a small test case, does anyone have any ideas why some
> > cross references would screw up?
> 
> I really don't know all that much about this problem. All I know is that
> when I did my thesis in LyX, I had some links going to wrong pages. To fix
> it, I had to use some ERT with \phantomsection in certain places, if I
> remember correctly. It's my understanding this has to do with how the marks
> are set for hyperref to deal with them. I'm certain there are others who
> know more, but this might help.
> 
> Jacob

Hi all,

It was exactly what Jacob said, and it's actually a well known problem with a 
well known solution.

Hyperref was never meant to go with just any old label. Hyperref was built to 
refer to the current chapter, section, subsection, subsubsection, etc, 
containing the label. It's also meant to refer to the inside of a float, but 
that's beyond the scope of the current discussion.

Anyway, remember this: when you create a crossreference to a label, the page 
number is exactly that of the label, but hyperref jumps to the beginning of 
the smallest containing chapter, section, subsection etc containing that 
label.

So the hyperref people made the \phantomsection command to make a little tiny 
fake section. Whenever you make a label that isn't at the front of a chapter, 
section etc and isn't in a float, if you're using hyperref you MUST put an ERT 
\phantomsection immediately before the label. This will cure the problem I 
mentioned.

Remember, the \phantomsection goes before the *label*, not before the 
crossreference.

Happy hyperreffing.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: Chapter* is making me crazy again

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Sunday 27 March 2011 19:52:42 Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Yet another problem with Chapter*. I have some appendices at the end of the
> book which I put as Chapter* instead of Chapter so they wouldn't be
> identified as "Chapter 58: Appendex A" on the page header or in the table
> of contents. It didn't work out too well.
> 
> The page headers for Appendex A shows the header for the last chapter made
> with Chapter instead of Chapter*. In other words, the Appendix's page
> header shows something like  "Chapter 57: Lastchaptertitle".
> 
> I'm using a document class derived from class Book, and it's waaay too
> late to change to Memoir or Koma or any of those, and I don't like them
> anyway.
> 
> I've attached a 2 chapter sample that clearly shows the problem on its PDF
> output's last page.
> 
> Another problem is my super-duper date-showing header reverts to the one
> last shown in a legitimate chapter.
> 
> I spoze there are two ways I can handle this. I could make the appendices
> chapters and include ERT like this just before they start:
> 
> \renewcommand{\thechapter}{ }\renewcommand{\chaptername}{ }
> 
> I'd need to do something similar with the date variable used in the date
> header, which isn't that hard.
> 
> Or I could find some way to make Chapter* influence \thechapter and
> \chaptername and the like.
> 
> Any ideas?

So here's what I ended up doing. From an authoring standpoint it's ugly, but 
the output the user sees is fine, so what the heck. This works when the 
desired Chapter* are all at the end, with no further Chapter headings or 
anything that should be in Mainmatter.

After my chapters comes and Epilogue, which shouldn't have a chapter number, 
and then come three Appendices, which shouldn't have chapter numbers. So 
before the Epilogue I put in the following ERT:

\renewcommand{\hdrcolon}{ }
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{~}{ }
\renewcommand{\chapenglish}{ }
\backmatter

The first three commands blank out things like the word "Chapter, the chapter 
number, and the colon that follows the chapter number in the headers. Note 
that \hdrcolon and \chapenglish are my own creations -- I've manually set my 
headers in my layout. Then I declare \backmatter, which does the following:

* Eliminates the words "Chapter", the chapter number, and colon from the 
header.
* Eliminates the chapter number from the table of contents entry

Now if I'd had my druthers, I'd have wanted my Epilogue to be in the 
mainmatter, but this workaround demands it be in the backmatter. Fine, but I 
still want the user to think of the Epilogue as part of the book's text. So 
what I do is put a blank line in the table of contents following the Epilogue. 
Here's how. Between the end of the Epilogue and the start of Appendix A I 
include the following ERT:

\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{~}

There we go. There's the kludgy Steve Litt we all know and love. He just 
inserted a blank contents line. What can I say, it works, and if the reader 
clicks on the blank chapter nothing happens, which is what you want.

Hey people, I didn't promise it would be pretty :-)

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Fwd: Lyx -> latex -> Lyx - cycle not working for very simple file

2011-03-29 Thread Richard Heck


I'm forwarding this to lyx-devel and, in particular, to our tex2lyx guru.

Richard

 Original Message 
Subject:Lyx -> latex -> Lyx - cycle not working for very simple file
Date:   Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:03:24 + (UTC)
From:   dariomt 
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org



Hi list,

I have looked around and I've seen there are a couple of issues with exporting
to latex and then reimporting it to lyx.

I have run into that problem with a really very simple file (a 1x1 table with a
'program listing' inside), and would like to know if there are any known
workarounds to make it work.

With the attached lyx document I do File->Export->LaTex(plain) and then
File->Import->LaTex(plain) and I get a lyx document that cannot be rendered as a
pdf.

Any help or pointer is appreciated. Thanks in advance.


--- problematic lyx file ---

#LyX 1.6.8 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 345
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\use_default_options true
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\use_hyperref false
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author ""
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Tabular





\begin_inset Text

\begin_layout Plain Layout
\begin_inset listings
inline false
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout

my code
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset




\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_body
\end_document






Lyx -> latex -> Lyx - cycle not working for very simple file

2011-03-29 Thread dariomt
Hi list,

I have looked around and I've seen there are a couple of issues with exporting
to latex and then reimporting it to lyx.

I have run into that problem with a really very simple file (a 1x1 table with a
'program listing' inside), and would like to know if there are any known
workarounds to make it work.

With the attached lyx document I do File->Export->LaTex(plain) and then
File->Import->LaTex(plain) and I get a lyx document that cannot be rendered as a
pdf.

Any help or pointer is appreciated. Thanks in advance.


--- problematic lyx file ---

#LyX 1.6.8 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 345
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\use_default_options true
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\use_hyperref false
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author "" 
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Tabular





\begin_inset Text

\begin_layout Plain Layout
\begin_inset listings
inline false
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout

my code
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset




\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_body
\end_document






Re: Outline mode won't open for me.

2011-03-29 Thread BH
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
> Sounds broken, yes. Try moving (renaming) your local configuration
> directory, wherever that is

... On Mac that would be ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6.

BH


Re: Outline mode won't open for me.

2011-03-29 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/29/2011 02:31 AM, Pete Crite wrote:

Hi,

I was trying to find a way to search for a particular citation in my LyX document, and went into 
the menu Navigate>  Other Lists>  Lists of Citations. In some documents (perhaps those with 
less citations), my citations appear directly in the drop-down menu. In others, I get the item 
Open Navigator… After a bit of googling, this appears to trigger the "Toggle outline" 
button in my toolbar. Alternatively, the menu Document>  Outline does the same.

My problem is that this does not seem to do anything in my computer! Nothing 
noticeable changes. No window, panel or toolbar opens. I'm not really sure what 
should happen, but I certainly can't see anything obvious. I remember vaguely 
amending some configuration files once, so I attempted a new install on a fresh 
user, but no luck still. What should I be seeing? Presumably it's broken on my 
installation?

Sounds broken, yes. Try moving (renaming) your local configuration 
directory, wherever that is, and restarting LyX with all defaults. If 
that works, you have your villain.


Richard



Translations of Math environments in LyX output - last call for LyX 2.0

2011-03-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dear translators,

one of the new features in the upcoming LyX 2.0 is automatic translation
of math environments strings (and some floats) to the localized form.
For example "Exercise" becomes "Aufgabe" in the output of the documents
with language set to german.

In the attached file you find a list of translations which will appear in
exported documents, not only in the GUI. These translations will be fixed for
the 2.0.x release cycle, since the contents of documents must not change
between minor releases. It is still possible to add or change these
translations in .po files as usual, but these updates will only be used for the
GUI and not appear in the file lib/layouttranslations, which is used for the
exported translations.

Please go through all entries in the attached file for your language and 
ensure that they are correctly translated. Make any needed update in the .po 
files as usual. The lib/layouttranslations file will be regenerated 
automatically from the .po files before the final 2.0.0 release.

Similarly, if you are not translator (yet) but interested user, which
would like to have this feature working in your language, let me know
the fixes or new translations. Its about 30 items, so nothing which
expects tons of your time.

Pavel
# This file has been automatically generated by po/lyx_pot.py.
# PLEASE DO NOT MODIFY ANYTHING HERE! If you want to regenerate this file
# from the translations, run `make ../lib/layouttranslations' in po.

Translation ar
"Acknowledgement" "Acknowledgement"
"Algorithm" "الخوارزم"
"Assumption" "فرضية"
"Axiom" "مسلمة"
"Case" "Case"
"Chart" "جدول بياني"
"Claim" "Claim"
"Conclusion" "استنتاج"
"Condition" "شعء"
"Conjecture" "Conjecture"
"Corollary" "Corollary"
"Criterion" "Criterion"
"Definition" "تعريف"
"Example" "مثال"
"Exercise" "تمرين"
"Fact" "حقيقة"
"Figure" "صورة توضيحية"
"Graph" "رسم بياني"
"Lemma" "Lemma"
"List of Algorithms" "قائمة الخوارزميات"
"List of Charts" "قائمة الجداول البيانية"
"List of Figures" "قائمة الرسوم التوضيحية"
"List of Graphs" "قائمة الرسوم البيانية"
"List of Schemes" "قائمة التصميمات"
"List of Tableaux" "قائمة الجداول"
"List of Tables" "قائمة الجداول"
"MarginFigure" "صورة هامشية"
"MarginTable" "جدول هامشي"
"Notation" "تدوين"
"Note" "ملاحظة"
"Planotable" "Planotable"
"Plate" "Plate"
"Problem" "مشكلة"
"Proof" "برهان"
"Proposition" "Proposition"
"Question" "سؤال"
"Remark" "ملاحظة"
"Scheme" "مخطط"
"Summary" "موجز"
"Table" "جدول"
"Tableau" "جدول"
"Theorem" "نظرية"
End

Translation bg
"Acknowledgement" "Acknowledgement"
"Algorithm" "Aлгоритъм"
"Assumption" "Assumption"
"Axiom" "Axiom"
"Case" "Case"
"Chart" "Chart"
"Claim" "Claim"
"Conclusion" "Заключение"
"Condition" "УсНОвио"
"Conjecture" "Conjecture"
"Corollary" "Corollary"
"Criterion" "Criterion"
"Definition" "Дефиниция"
"Example" "Пример"
"Exercise" "Упражнение"
"Fact" "Факт"
"Figure" "Figure"
"Graph" "Graph"
"Lemma" "Лема"
"List of Algorithms" "List of Algorithms"
"List of Charts" "List of Charts"
"List of Figures" "List of Figures"
"List of Graphs" "List of Graphs"
"List of Schemes" "List of Schemes"
"List of Tableaux" "List of Tableaux"
"List of Tables" "List of Tables"
"MarginFigure" "MarginFigure"
"MarginTable" "MarginTable"
"Notation" "Notation"
"Note" "Бележка"
"Planotable" "Planotable"
"Plate" "Plate"
"Problem" "Проблем"
"Proof" "Доказателство"
"Proposition" "Допускане"
"Question" "Въпрос"
"Remark" "Remark"
"Scheme" "Scheme"
"Summary" "Обобщение"
"Table" "Table"
"Tableau" "Tableau"
"Theorem" "Теорема"
End

Translation ca
"Acknowledgement" "Agraiment"
"Algorithm" "Algorisme"
"Assumption" "AssumpciĂł"
"Axiom" "Axioma"
"Case" "Cas"
"Chart" "Chart"
"Claim" "AfirmaciĂł"
"Conclusion" "ConclusiĂł"
"Condition" "CondiciĂł"
"Conjecture" "Conjectura"
"Corollary" "Corol¡lari"
"Criterion" "Criteri"
"Definition" "DefiniciĂł"
"Example" "Exemple"
"Exercise

Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> actually this is argument for allowing embedded file format (ie all material
> contained in a single .lyx file and git on the top of it.)
>
> heh, how could i forget on this for GSoC list of ideas?
>
I thought of including it, but since all the flames from the previous
implementation attempt I had the feeling that there was no consensus
on how the feature should be implemented. And GSoC projects should at
the very least not spark flames, I guess. :)

Has the status changed?
Liviu


Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Guenter Milde wrote:
> > however lyx support only .lyx files, not files like bibliography or
> > pictures around. these need to be manually added so if you don't intend
> > to become commandline capable, the lyx support of version control won't
> > be enough for you.
> 
> This is one more argument for Git (or a similar modern cms like mercurial).

actually this is argument for allowing embedded file format (ie all material
contained in a single .lyx file and git on the top of it.)

heh, how could i forget on this for GSoC list of ideas?
pavel


AW: [LyX 2.0.0rc1] LyX file symbol in explorer disappeared

2011-03-29 Thread Jannick Asmus

Pavel Sanda wrote:

Jannick Asmus wrote:

Hi,

after installation of LyY 2.0.0rc1-2 on my WinVista machine the
symbol (blue L) for LyX files has disappeared in the explorer,
whereas the application to files with extension .lyx is LyX.
Moreover in the list of installed programs ("system panel" - don't
know the correct translation, since my machine is a German one) the
LyX application is shown with a black "g" - like this one of GPL
Ghostscript. 


please add this to our bug tracker. pavel


Done: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7399.

/J.



Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 29/03/11 04:05, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>>> Any suggestions is very welcome.
>>
>> I haven't started using version control yet, but all my friends love Git.
> 
> which is not supported by lyx at all. we know RCS, CVS, SVN.
> RCS is good for local usage only (not to be shared among people)
> while SVN (newer replacement of CVS) needs more admin maintenance to setup.
> but repository can be shared among people then.
> 
> however lyx support only .lyx files, not files like bibliography or pictures 
> around.
> these need to be manually added so if you don't intend to become commandline
> capable, the lyx support of version control won't be enough for you.

There ar many frontends for different VCS - Nice ones with integration
into Nautilus (on Linux) is RabbitVCS (http://www.rabbitvcs.org/) ---
like tortoisevcs (http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) is for windows.

By the way: I use SVN and I am quite happy with it.

Cheers,

Rainer

> 
> pavel


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Re: Suggestions on which revision control system to use with LyX?

2011-03-29 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:18 PM, stefano franchi
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>   I have decided to take the plunge and start to use a revision
> control system for all or almost all my projects from here on.
>
I tried several times to start using SVN for my documents and
projects, but always had to back down since, well, it's too much
overhead. Unless you're doing something fancy and need advanced
features of SVN or GIT, I could suggest a simpler solution.

At the moment I use SpiderOak [1], which is similar to Dropbox but
much more flexible. You can imitate revision control systems by
letting SpiderOak automatically backup a given file or the files from
a given folder (this removes the overhead of manually performing the
commit / push). SpiderOak keeps all historical versions (only the
diffs), so they're easily available if anything goes unexpectedly,
under the 2GB limit of free storage. For major changes I also keep a
change.log file, which I edit and save at the same time as the main
file; this way I keep a log of major modifications, and let SpiderOak
take care of backing up most (and minor) modifications automatically.
[1] http://alternativeto.net/software/spideroak/about

This is probably a matter of habit, but it seems to be working for me
so far. It's also easier to setup and understand than most RCS.
Additionally you can also set up the sync features, to automatically
fetch on a different system (it's cross-platform) the latest versions
of your files. This again removes the overhead of manually checking
out / pulling from the SVN / GIT server. But then, for collaboration,
this is probably not the answer (although you could investigate the
sharing features of SpiderOak).

Cheers
Liviu


> However, I have no experience with any of the many options available
> (i.e. RCS, SVN, Git?, etc.). In other words, I must  learn how to use
> the system *and* learn how to use it from within LyX: I am a totally
> blank slate, in other words, unhampered by previous knowledge. I
> wonder if anyone could offer feedback on the systems they use?
>
> I will use it only for LyX (and LaTeX), for individual or very
> small-team projects (<5 people). My preferences are the ease to
> integration with Lyx and easy repository maintenance (the criteria may
> be contradictory, of course).  I took a look at the wiki pages and the
> instructions on the help docs, but neither was very helpful at my
> stage (of ignorance). They all assume you have already decided which
> system to use, and provide instructions on how to use them from LyX.
>
> On the other hand, all the non-LyX sources of information I found are
> targeted at coders, typically working in large teams, with elaborate
> technical discussions of several complex use cases that seem not
> applicable for document-based repositories with individual- or small
> team access. I may be wrong, of course.
>
> Any suggestions is very welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>



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