Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote
and single quote characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.

--
Michael Wojcik





Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote and 
single quote characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used  or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and  do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen


Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote
and single quote characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.

--
Michael Wojcik





Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote and 
single quote characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used  or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and  do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen


Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the " character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the "backquote"
and "single quote" characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
"two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes".

--
Michael Wojcik





Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "LyX Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the " character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the "backquote" and 
"single quote" characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used " or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and " do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
"two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes".



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen


Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


--
Michael Wojcik



Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/tfm/node37.html


Quotes (double quotes). Double quotes are used around strings containing
any reserved character except back-quote (see below) and the variable
indicator ``$''.

foo$ echo old - new
old - new
foo$ ls *
* not found
foo$


'
Quote (forward quote). The single quote provides the greatest protection
against rewriting and reserved characters. All reserved characters,
including double quotes, are protected by single quotes.

`
Back Quote (backwards quote). The backquote is a rather special symbol.
In /bin/sh, unless the backquote is protected by one of the valid means
above, the contents of the string contained between the backquotes will
be executed and the output from that execution written in place of the
backquoted string.

foo$ echo You are currently logged into host `hostname`
You are currently logged into host foo
--

SH: Notice that  ``$'' which is used in the first paragraph consists
of two back quotes plus a ' and a ' equalling a '' whereas the other
symbols which appear in the explanation are just one symbol  and 
distinguish between functionality and appearance in the regex line

which would not (usually) come up in most textual contexts.


Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


--
Michael Wojcik



Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/tfm/node37.html


Quotes (double quotes). Double quotes are used around strings containing
any reserved character except back-quote (see below) and the variable
indicator ``$''.

foo$ echo old - new
old - new
foo$ ls *
* not found
foo$


'
Quote (forward quote). The single quote provides the greatest protection
against rewriting and reserved characters. All reserved characters,
including double quotes, are protected by single quotes.

`
Back Quote (backwards quote). The backquote is a rather special symbol.
In /bin/sh, unless the backquote is protected by one of the valid means
above, the contents of the string contained between the backquotes will
be executed and the output from that execution written in place of the
backquoted string.

foo$ echo You are currently logged into host `hostname`
You are currently logged into host foo
--

SH: Notice that  ``$'' which is used in the first paragraph consists
of two back quotes plus a ' and a ' equalling a '' whereas the other
symbols which appear in the explanation are just one symbol  and 
distinguish between functionality and appearance in the regex line

which would not (usually) come up in most textual contexts.


Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the " character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


--
Michael Wojcik



Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/tfm/node37.html

"
Quotes (double quotes). Double quotes are used around strings containing
any reserved character except back-quote (see below) and the variable
indicator ``$''.

foo$ echo "old -> new"
old -> new
foo$ ls "*"
* not found
foo$


'
Quote (forward quote). The single quote provides the greatest protection
against rewriting and reserved characters. All reserved characters,
including double quotes, are protected by single quotes.

`
Back Quote (backwards quote). The backquote is a rather special symbol.
In /bin/sh, unless the backquote is protected by one of the valid means
above, the contents of the string contained between the backquotes will
be executed and the output from that execution written in place of the
backquoted string.

foo$ echo "You are currently logged into host `hostname`"
You are currently logged into host foo
--

SH: Notice that  ``$'' which is used in the first paragraph consists
of two back quotes plus a ' and a ' equalling a '' whereas the other
symbols which appear in the explanation are just one symbol " and 
distinguish between functionality and appearance in the regex line

which would not (usually) come up in most textual contexts.


Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-08-29 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Clearly nothing wrong with spellcheck just my stupidity in assigning quote 
marks in Latex.

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is valid for 
closing quotes. I foolishly thought that the same must apply and was using two 
closing quotes - ie ' ' without the space. 

Consequently spellcheck was picking up an apostrophe followed by another and 
rightly flagged it as nonsense.

Geoff

Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-08-29 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Clearly nothing wrong with spellcheck just my stupidity in assigning quote 
marks in Latex.

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is valid for 
closing quotes. I foolishly thought that the same must apply and was using two 
closing quotes - ie ' ' without the space. 

Consequently spellcheck was picking up an apostrophe followed by another and 
rightly flagged it as nonsense.

Geoff

Spellchecker - My stupidity!

2005-08-29 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
Clearly nothing wrong with spellcheck just my stupidity in assigning quote 
marks in Latex.

While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is valid for 
closing quotes. I foolishly thought that the same must apply and was using two 
closing quotes - ie ' ' without the space. 

Consequently spellcheck was picking up an apostrophe followed by another and 
rightly flagged it as nonsense.

Geoff