Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
I used to live there for 2 years from 2007 - 2009. Ken Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen? > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone wrote: >> True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull. Guess >> there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded >> equipment and zero testing might just be profitable. >> >> :-( >> >>> On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner" wrote: >>> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother >>> counterfeiting... >>> >>> Nothing is thrown away in China. >>> >>> When times are good, a goodly amount of "counterfeits" are factory >>> >>> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens. >>> >>> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market >>> >>> commands. >>> >>> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:) >
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
I have. Plus Hong Kong, Nanchang, Guangzhou and a few other places. If something can be copied, scavenged or stolen and sold at a profit (working or not, legal or not), you can assume it's being done. It doesn't take much for something to be considered profitable, considering the cost of labor. >> Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen?
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
Never myself. On Thursday, November 5, 2015, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen? > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone wrote: >> >> True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull. Guess there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded equipment and zero testing might just be profitable. >> >> :-( >> >> On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner" wrote: >>> >>> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother counterfeiting... >>> >>> Nothing is thrown away in China. >>> >>> When times are good, a goodly amount of "counterfeits" are factory >>> >>> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens. >>> >>> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market >>> >>> commands. >>> >>> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:) > >
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
Have any of you guys been to Shenzhen? On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull. Guess > there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded > equipment and zero testing might just be profitable. > > :-( > On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner" wrote: > >> ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother >> counterfeiting... >> >> Nothing is thrown away in China. >> >> When times are good, a goodly amount of "counterfeits" are factory >> >> production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens. >> >> value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market >> >> commands. >> >> And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:) >> >
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
True. Particularly, I hadn't considered that it might be a pull. Guess there's no shortage of those there, either. cheap labor, lots of discarded equipment and zero testing might just be profitable. :-( On Nov 4, 2015 8:34 PM, "John Gardner" wrote: > ...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother > counterfeiting... > > Nothing is thrown away in China. > > When times are good, a goodly amount of "counterfeits" are factory > > production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens. > > value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market > > commands. > > And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:) >
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
...seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother counterfeiting... Nothing is thrown away in China. When times are good, a goodly amount of "counterfeits" are factory production rejects. When times are less good and demand slackens. value is engineered out at the factory to suit whatever price the market commands. And then there are the "real" counterfeiters...:)
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
maybe.. will have to try another part... you are right, why fake that part On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > 7402 fake? That seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to > bother counterfeiting. Maybe it's just a really terrible batch? > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Stephen Adolph > wrote: > >> Well I got my first counterfeit parts from China recently. I went to >> build up the first T102 QUAD, and voila no workey. suspect one part, >> looks funny. swap it and voila! almost working... hah. >> >> So, I have a hardware thing to sort out, tbd on that, but interesting >> that the 74HC02 was fake. >> >> steve >> > >
Re: [M100] counterfeit parts
7402 fake? That seems like an *awfully* generic and low-cost part to bother counterfeiting. Maybe it's just a really terrible batch? On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > Well I got my first counterfeit parts from China recently. I went to build > up the first T102 QUAD, and voila no workey. suspect one part, looks > funny. swap it and voila! almost working... hah. > > So, I have a hardware thing to sort out, tbd on that, but interesting that > the 74HC02 was fake. > > steve >