Re: Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread Gregg Eshelman 
--- Ben Pazolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Simple question hopefully, I have just received a
> 7-inch Cyrix 586 100MHz
> Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120,
> which I bought off eBay
> for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am
> playing all my old dos
> games and running Windows 3.11.

If it's an Apple card, find PCsetup2x. Some outfit
bought the software from Apple, then updated it for
newer Macs and Mac OS versions. There's Mac and
Windows parts to the software.

If it's an Orange Micro Orange PC card, you might
find software here.
http://www.vintagemacworld.com/omweb/softwareupdates.html

That's a bunch of links to archived orangemicro.com
pages on the web archive. A problem with that archive
is much of the time it doesn't have the downloads.
Sometimes it has incomplete or corrupted copies.

Another annoyance is the archive does not support
resuming, and it times out the downloads way too
soon for dialup connections. If it has the file and
if it's complete/not corrupted, and you have
broadband,
the web archive can be a treasure trove of old
software.

Somebody needs to collect all the software for all
of Orange Micro's hardware so it'll be available
for people to get.

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Re: Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hello Ben,

May not help, but when I bought a dos Quadra 610 back in 75', no one,  
even apple tech's could get it to print in DOS, or windows.  Apple   
Au  agreed to take it back and I got a full refund. Just before I  
sent it back I found another tech, who told me save the file in  
"sylk" format and then it printed fine.


So perhaps you have to save your settings in a special format or  a  
special way.


As well it maybe that the TCP/IP needs extras or different settings  
to hadle DHCP.


You may try loading  IP addresses manually.

Vic.


On 12/04/2006, at 2:27 AM, Ben Pazolli wrote:

Simple question hopefully, I have just received a 7-inch Cyrix 586  
100MHz
Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120, which I bought  
off eBay
for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am playing all my  
old dos
games and running Windows 3.11. The problem is I have tried but  
can't setup
my network on the 586 side. I have a TCP/IP network with DCHP,  
works fine on
the Mac side. Any pointers would be great and I read somewhere that  
there
are problems running the same protocol on both sides. If so, could  
someone

explain the workaround clearer?

Thanks for the Help,
Ben Pazolli

P.S. I not sure if this list is still operating, there has been  
very little
activity and it hasn't made the transition to Google groups, if I  
don't

receive a response in a day or two, I will repost this question on PCI
PowerMacs.



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Re: Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hello Ben,

May not help, but when I bought a dos Quadra 610 back in 75', no one,  
even apple tech's could get it to print in DOS, or windows.  Apple   
Au  agreed to take it back and I got a full refund. Just before I  
sent it back I found another tech, who told me save the file in  
"sylk" format and then it printed fine.


So perhaps you have to save your settings in a special format or  a  
special way.


As well it maybe that the TCP/IP needs extras or different settings  
to hadle DHCP.


You may try loading  IP addresses manually.

Vic.


On 12/04/2006, at 2:27 AM, Ben Pazolli wrote:

Simple question hopefully, I have just received a 7-inch Cyrix 586  
100MHz
Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120, which I bought  
off eBay
for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am playing all my  
old dos
games and running Windows 3.11. The problem is I have tried but  
can't setup
my network on the 586 side. I have a TCP/IP network with DCHP,  
works fine on
the Mac side. Any pointers would be great and I read somewhere that  
there
are problems running the same protocol on both sides. If so, could  
someone

explain the workaround clearer?

Thanks for the Help,
Ben Pazolli

P.S. I not sure if this list is still operating, there has been  
very little
activity and it hasn't made the transition to Google groups, if I  
don't

receive a response in a day or two, I will repost this question on PCI
PowerMacs.



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Re: Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread James Rice 

William Ove wrote:



On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Ben Pazolli wrote:

Simple question hopefully, I have just received a 7-inch Cyrix 586  
100MHz
Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120, which I bought  
off eBay
for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am playing all my  
old dos
games and running Windows 3.11. The problem is I have tried but  
can't setup
my network on the 586 side. I have a TCP/IP network with DCHP,  works 
fine on
the Mac side. Any pointers would be great and I read somewhere that  
there
are problems running the same protocol on both sides. If so, could  
someone

explain the workaround clearer?



The list has been quiet. Probably not too many folks still using  
these items. I have an OrangePC 520 card. While I have had no  
difficulty in getting networking functional with Win95, I have never  
been able to get it working with MS DOS.


MicroOrange the maker of my card, does supply additions/drivers that  
they represent as workable. I have never been sure whether the  
problem is with the network drivers or my configuration of them. I do  
not recall if Apple supplied DOS drivers for networking or not. The  
Orange PC is gone along with the company that made it. Their site has  
been mirrored at a couple locations and I do have all their drivers  
if they would be of benefit to you. I find it odd that Novell's old  
DOS network drivers remain tightly controlled commercial software.  
There is a DOS browser that comes with its own built in drivers for  
accessing the internet, but I have not had any luck using those either.


I enjoy using an old operating system known as GEOS, which runs on  
top of DOS. My card has a 166 processor and I have been a bit  
frustrated that it will only run MS DOS (it will run DR DOS too). I  
have had no luck in trying to use OS/2 or BeOS on the card.


bill

I've been using a 486 based DOS card in a 631CD for years.  I never got 
the networking working in Win3.11/MS-DOS but did get it working in Win95 
and Win95 is not even a supported OS for that card.  I used the Win3.11 
drivers for networking that Apple supplied in the Win95 installation and 
upgraded from Win3.11 to Win95.


I've used GEM running on top of MS-DOS 6.22 on my DOS card.  I used a 
old install of GEM 1.2T that Tandy sold in 1985-6.  I've never tried 
GEOS but it sounds like fun.


James

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Re: Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread William Ove 


On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Ben Pazolli wrote:

Simple question hopefully, I have just received a 7-inch Cyrix 586  
100MHz
Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120, which I bought  
off eBay
for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am playing all my  
old dos
games and running Windows 3.11. The problem is I have tried but  
can't setup
my network on the 586 side. I have a TCP/IP network with DCHP,  
works fine on
the Mac side. Any pointers would be great and I read somewhere that  
there
are problems running the same protocol on both sides. If so, could  
someone

explain the workaround clearer?


The list has been quiet. Probably not too many folks still using  
these items. I have an OrangePC 520 card. While I have had no  
difficulty in getting networking functional with Win95, I have never  
been able to get it working with MS DOS.


MicroOrange the maker of my card, does supply additions/drivers that  
they represent as workable. I have never been sure whether the  
problem is with the network drivers or my configuration of them. I do  
not recall if Apple supplied DOS drivers for networking or not. The  
Orange PC is gone along with the company that made it. Their site has  
been mirrored at a couple locations and I do have all their drivers  
if they would be of benefit to you. I find it odd that Novell's old  
DOS network drivers remain tightly controlled commercial software.  
There is a DOS browser that comes with its own built in drivers for  
accessing the internet, but I have not had any luck using those either.


I enjoy using an old operating system known as GEOS, which runs on  
top of DOS. My card has a 166 processor and I have been a bit  
frustrated that it will only run MS DOS (it will run DR DOS too). I  
have had no luck in trying to use OS/2 or BeOS on the card.


bill

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Apple Compatibility Card

2006-04-11 Thread Ben Pazolli 
Simple question hopefully, I have just received a 7-inch Cyrix 586 100MHz
Compatibility Card for my Power Macintosh 7200/120, which I bought off eBay
for just under $20 AUD or $14 USD. Very happy, I am playing all my old dos
games and running Windows 3.11. The problem is I have tried but can't setup
my network on the 586 side. I have a TCP/IP network with DCHP, works fine on
the Mac side. Any pointers would be great and I read somewhere that there
are problems running the same protocol on both sides. If so, could someone
explain the workaround clearer?

Thanks for the Help,
Ben Pazolli

P.S. I not sure if this list is still operating, there has been very little
activity and it hasn't made the transition to Google groups, if I don't
receive a response in a day or two, I will repost this question on PCI
PowerMacs.



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