MacGroup: ibook issues

[Brian O'Neal]

I thought that they at least had a capacitor to keep the time while 
changing batteries???

I've never changed the battery in my ibook (since I don't have an extra)

Brian O'Neal




On Apr 26, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

Hey Beth,

ibooks do not have internal pram batteries.? Your only recourse is to 
perform a logic board reset and/or zap the pram.? If neither does the 
trick, the replacement of the logic board comes next.
Ward

Ward Oldham, MacDude
MacTown
1041 Bardstown Road
Louisville, KY ?40204
502-485-1243
ward at mactown.us
http://www.mactown.us


On Apr 26, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Beth Phillips wrote:

> I have a friend that has an older ibook running Mac OS X (Jaguar, I 
> believe). I haven?t dealt with these models much and didn?t see 
> anything that would help her out. It?s out of warranty so Apple?s not 
> helping her either.
>
>  Any time she restarts the computer her time has to be reset. If this 
> were a desktop model I?d say her battery had gone bad, but ibooks 
> don?t have an internal PRAM battery, do they? Anyone have any 
> suggestions? I?m going to suggest zapping the PRAM first but if that 
> doesn?t work what else can she try?
>  --
>  Thanks,
>  Beth
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MacGroup: ibook issues

[Jerry Ethington]

>I have a friend that has an older ibook running Mac OS X (Jaguar, I 
>believe). I haven't dealt with these models much and didn't see 
>anything that would help her out. It's out of warranty so Apple's 
>not helping her either.
>
>Any time she restarts the computer her time has to be reset. If this 
>were a desktop model I'd say her battery had gone bad, but ibooks 
>don't have an internal PRAM battery, do they? Anyone have any 
>suggestions? I'm going to suggest zapping the PRAM first but if that 
>doesn't work what else can she try?

iBooks don't have a PRAM battery (PowerBooks do, but not iBooks I 
believe).  I can think of three possible causes:

1.  Fried logic board.  Not very likely, and not much you can do 
about it other than fork up big bucks for a replacement.

2.  More likely - messed up power manager chip.  You can reset this - 
you'll have to look at the Apple Support web site to get the 
instructions on how to perform a reset for her specific iBook model - 
the instructions are slightly different for different models.  You 
can also try a reset in Open Firmware - power up the iBook and 
immediately hold down the command, option, and O (oh, not zero) and F 
keys until the screen lights up and dumps you into an icky Open 
Firmware command line environment.  Try these commands (without the 
quotes) - press return after each command - "reset-nvram" - 
"set-defaults" - "reset-all".  The last command should cause the 
iBook to reboot and hopefully everything will now be squared away. 
You'll need to set the clock once more, but it might now start 
keeping the time correctly.

3. Still more likely, since you mention it is an older iBook - the 
rechargeable battery is shot.  With the best of treatment, they'll 
still last only about 4-5 years tops.  If you don't have the iBook 
plugged in and the main battery is dead, there isn't anyplace to get 
power to run the clock, since there isn't an internal PRAM/clock 
battery.  Solution: keep it plugged in or get a new main battery (be 
ready to spend moderate bucks).

If she has internet access that doesn't use dial up, there is also a 
gross nasty icky (but free!) work-around under OS X - go into the 
date-and-time system preference panel and turn on "set date and time 
automatically".  Then every time the iBook boots up, it will reach 
out into the net and reset its own clock to match the time from the 
network.  Since this happens at startup, it will look like the clock 
kept the right time and all will be well with the world.

Hope this helps.

Jerry
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MacGroup: Photos of Longhorn

[Henri Yandell]

On 4/26/05, Rex Baldazo  wrote:
> Bill Gates did a sneak peek of Longhorn, our reporter took a couple
> snapshots:
> 
> http://news.com.com/2009-1016_3-5683877.html
> 
> The scuttlebutt is that a lot of the Avalon graphics stuff looks a lot
> like what we've got already in Aqua.

(oops, turned into a mini-rant..sorry)

Windows XP was a lot like Aqua already. The latest KDE (Linux) is very
cutesy and Aqua-like.  Admittedly the Gnome group (2nd place to KDE on
Linux atm) were probably cutesy and liquidy ahead of Apple, but it's
embaressing to see how many OSes have had to work on making the OS
need a higher-powered graphics card just to try and compete with the
Apple OS.

The linspire.com (formerly lindows) site is a terrible example of
that; Linspire exist at the low-end of the market selling the cheapest
newbie-friendly OS on the market (they sell through Wal-mart for one)
and they've felt the need to make everything look like a gum-drop.

OS X looks nice. The machine comes with a powerful graphics card and
Apple have done well to make the most of it, but the real win is the
amount of time their competitors have thrown into trying to compete.

The Longhorn pictures look terrible by the way :) Translucent windows
are a waste of time (they murder productivity) and the increasing
nature of showing the content as the icon is terrible (as I watch my
Win machine lag yet again while Windows Media Player decides that it
doesn't understand the file).

Virtual folders are interesting; though really it seems that they are
just canned searches and would metaphor'd better as a 'saved search'
than as a 'virtual folder'.

Hen



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MacGroup: ibook issues

[Ward Oldham]

Hey Beth,

ibooks do not have internal pram batteries.  Your only recourse is to  
perform a logic board reset and/or zap the pram.  If neither does the  
trick, the replacement of the logic board comes next.
Ward

Ward Oldham, MacDude
MacTown
1041 Bardstown Road
Louisville, KY  40204
502-485-1243
ward at mactown.us
http://www.mactown.us


On Apr 26, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Beth Phillips wrote:

> I have a friend that has an older ibook running Mac OS X (Jaguar, I  
> believe). I haven?t dealt with these models much and didn?t see  
> anything that would help her out. It?s out of warranty so Apple?s  
> not helping her either.
>
> Any time she restarts the computer her time has to be reset. If  
> this were a desktop model I?d say her battery had gone bad, but  
> ibooks don?t have an internal PRAM battery, do they? Anyone have  
> any suggestions? I?m going to suggest zapping the PRAM first but if  
> that doesn?t work what else can she try?
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Beth
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MacGroup: ibook issues

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I don't know for a fact but I think they do have an internal battery.

Tuesday, April 26, 20055:03 PMBeth Phillipsbphillips at fastline.com

>I have a friend that has an older ibook running Mac OS X (Jaguar, I
>believe). I haven1t dealt with these models much and didn1t see anything
>that would help her out. It1s out of warranty so Apple1s not helping her
>either. 
>
>Any time she restarts the computer her time has to be reset. If this were a
>desktop model I1d say her battery had gone bad, but ibooks don1t have an
>internal PRAM battery, do they? Anyone have any suggestions? I1m going to
>suggest zapping the PRAM first but if that doesn1t work what else can she
>try?
>-- 
>Thanks,
>Beth
>
>
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MacGroup: ibook issues

[Beth Phillips]

I have a friend that has an older ibook running Mac OS X (Jaguar, I
believe). I haven?t dealt with these models much and didn?t see anything
that would help her out. It?s out of warranty so Apple?s not helping her
either. 

Any time she restarts the computer her time has to be reset. If this were a
desktop model I?d say her battery had gone bad, but ibooks don?t have an
internal PRAM battery, do they? Anyone have any suggestions? I?m going to
suggest zapping the PRAM first but if that doesn?t work what else can she
try?
-- 
Thanks,
Beth


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MacGroup: Print function and OS X 3.9

[Jeffrey C Smith]

For those of us using HP large format printers, I resolved the problem 
by removing all references to my hp designjet 120 from the printer list 
and reloading it. For some reason the last update for the printer which 
I had downloaded and installed had not completely replaced the previous 
version of the driver. This was confusing to me because the software 
outside of OS X was all that was affected. iPhoto knew which drivers to 
use but my other software did not. Anyway, it's up and running again. I 
hope this experience helps. 



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Re(2): MacGroup: Re: OS X 3.9 and print function

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Not to muddy the water but I am using an HP laserjet 1200 with HP's
network connector and it works just fine. I recently upgraded to 3.9 and
it still seems OK.

Harry

Tuesday, April 26, 200511:02 AMNeal Hammonnohammon at earthlink.net

>Jeffrey C Smith wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else had trouble printing since downloading 3.9? My HP 
>> DesignJet print command is causing all my software to suddenly quit. 
>> The exception is iphoto which is printing without a problem. I've 
>> updated my printer software, corrected permissions and restarted 
>> everything but I still can't get prints from other software. 
>> (ArchiCAD, Photo elements)
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks, Jeff Smith
>
>Jeff-
>
>I bought a HP 7550 printer a year or so ago, and it never has worked 
>right. I can get it to operate normally for a day of so, and then it 
>just disapears.  In order to get it working again, I have to start over, 
>and re-install the solfware.
>
>I started thinking that all HP equipment worked like that. I'm glad to 
>have some confirmation.
>
>Neal Hammon
>
>>
>>
>>
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MacGroup: Re: OS X 3.9 and print function

[Neal Hammon]

Jeffrey C Smith wrote:

> Has anyone else had trouble printing since downloading 3.9? My HP 
> DesignJet print command is causing all my software to suddenly quit. 
> The exception is iphoto which is printing without a problem. I've 
> updated my printer software, corrected permissions and restarted 
> everything but I still can't get prints from other software. 
> (ArchiCAD, Photo elements)
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks, Jeff Smith

Jeff-

I bought a HP 7550 printer a year or so ago, and it never has worked 
right. I can get it to operate normally for a day of so, and then it 
just disapears.  In order to get it working again, I have to start over, 
and re-install the solfware.

I started thinking that all HP equipment worked like that. I'm glad to 
have some confirmation.

Neal Hammon

>
>
>
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MacGroup: Photos of Longhorn

[Rex Baldazo]

Bill Gates did a sneak peek of Longhorn, our reporter took a couple
snapshots:

http://news.com.com/2009-1016_3-5683877.html

The scuttlebutt is that a lot of the Avalon graphics stuff looks a lot
like what we've got already in Aqua.

--- Rex.



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