Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[william lomas]

when my friend tried it and his mac rebooted voiceover just came right  
up again

On 28 Aug 2009, at 22:26, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> If you did that, you wouldn't have feedback once it reboots.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Snow leopard just arrived
>
>
>>
>> i will just install from within leopard
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Braille tables for other languages

[william lomas]

which braille display would you recommend, I assume still the  
Syncbraille?

On 28 Aug 2009, at 22:43, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Hello Will,
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:11 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> this is fabulous news. I obtained the french table off you
>> which I assume is unmodified in the snowleopard one?
> As far as the user is concerned, there have been no modifications to
> the French Braille table.
>
>> I may look at purchasing a braille display. I assume then that no
>> language tables were included with SL?
> That's right. What we're providing in SL is a package of all the
> Braille tables we produce. Once installed, the popup menu in VoiceOver
> Utility will show all the available braille tables in the language of
> the OS. So, if your OS is in German, the names of the languages will
> be in German. As we add languages, we'll update the whole package.
> We're doing it this way because of the way Braille is implemented in
> Snow Leopard.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
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I've Entered MacLand

[Les Kriegler]

I've purchased our first Apple System since 1985 when we bought an Apple 2E.
How's that for dating myself?  It's a MacBook Pro and it should arrive
within the week.  I was informed that Snow Leopard may be installed, but if
not, I'll receive the installation package.  Very much looking forward to
some hands-on experience and using VoiceOver!

Les
 

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Re: the kitty is about to pounce

[JC Helary]

Le 29 août 2009 à 12:53, Yuma Antoine Decaux a écrit :

> I have all my data files backed up on my external drive, and all i
> actually need is to preserve my mail settings. Is that automatically
> done when upgrading?

Think of Snow Leopard as a "normal" software update. The OS retains  
all your preferences and you can use it right after the update is over  
(after a reboot, but that also is automatic).

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Re: status menu?

[JEFFREY SHOCKLEY]

Hi,
To get to that, press VO M twice.
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:37 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, my brother tried my mac today and apparently, to the right of  
> the apple menu there is a status menu where you can see your airport  
> status, the time and the battery status. Can anyone tell me where i  
> can find it because i would like to check how long my battery can  
> hold out.
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
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the kitty is about to pounce

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi everyone,

I haven't been able to preorder snow leopard and receive it in time as  
i live in asia, but from what the closest apple store told me, it will  
arrive next wednesday.

I'mm pretty excited after having read the maccessibility review, and  
really look forward to getting it.

I just have one question though. It's probably been answered already,  
sorry for the relapse :(

I have all my data files backed up on my external drive, and all i  
actually need is to preserve my mail settings. Is that automatically  
done when upgrading?

Thanks, and best

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Re: 2 Questions: Dialogs and SMTP

[Terrence]

I tried typing "snoop" in the terminal, but it didn't seem to be a
valid command.  Do I have to get it from somewhere?

Thanks,
Terrence

Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> Hmm, Apple has gotten a little better in this regard, but diagnosis of
> sending failures is still tricky.
>
> There is a entire conversation that goes on, and the SMTP server will
> either say
> 250 OK
> or 4XX Error message
>
> Where the error message might be "Unauthorized from address", or
> "Message too large" or "Unknown recipient".
>
> When I have encountered these problems I would attempt the SMTP
> conversation by hand. You might be able to see it in the activity
> monitor but it probably happens too fast.
>
> I have seen some rules to follow with Googles's server but I can't
> answer in general.
>
> Try to get somebody with eyes to watch the activity window while you
> send. The only other thing I can  think to do would be to open a
> terminal window and run snoop on that. Snoop would allow you to watch
> the SMTP conversation, if it is not SSL encrypted.
> Jon
>
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:57 PM, terre...@terrencevak.net wrote:
>
> > Ah, OK, will have to check on my cursor tracking then.
> > For the messages, I just get a dialog box that says the message
> > couldn't
> > be sent using the server I'd chosen, and giving me the options to
> > choose
> > a server, send with the selected server, try later, etc.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Terrence
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Dialogs and SMTP
> >> From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" 
> >> Date: Thu, August 27, 2009 2:20 pm
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>
> >> 1. It depends on the kind of dialog and if you have cursor tracking
> >> on
> >> or not. Some dialogs are linked to windows and h those can be more
> >> difficult if you have cursor tracking off. I think if you route VO
> >> cursor to keyoboard you should be OK>
> >> 2. What is happening when you send out e-mail? Are you getting a
> >> bounce message back, or  does it just do you get a dialog box?
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:14 PM, terre...@terrencevak.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello, all,
> >>> Sometimes when an alert/dialog pops up, VO doesn't switch to it.  Is
> >>> there a way to move to it without using the mouse?
> >>> On another note, I'm having trouble with setting up outgoing mail
> >>> (SMTP)
> >>> servers.  I got the thing set up OK, and Connection Doctor says that
> >>> the
> >>> connection worked, but I can never send messages through that SMTP
> >>> server.  My iPhone, however, sends messages through that server with
> >>> no
> >>> problem.  I've checked that the settings are the same and they
> >>> seem to
> >>> be identical.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?  And/or,
> >>> are
> >>> there other recommended mail clients besides AppleMail?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Terrence
> >>>
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > >
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Re: Voice Over Menu

[Mac Cougar]

Hello,

Try this.  system preferances,keyboard, and set to default.  Hope this  
works

Steve
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Alfonzo Cuellar wrote:

>
> Hey there everyone.
>
> I am really liking VoiceOver in its new iteration
>
> One thing I have noticed though, I am unable to go to the VoiceOver
> Menu.  I am not even able to bring up the VoiceOver quick start if I
> wanted too.
>
> Anyone have an idea of how to solve this?
>
> I liked the VO menu, since it was a handy tool to reference commands
> for VO.
>
> Take care everyone.
>
> Fonzie
>
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Re: using Shazam on the Iphone

[Cara Quinn]

   Actually you don't need to re-launch. Simply press and hold 'home,  
as if you were activating speech recognition, and then, once you hear  
the double beep to indicate that it's active, simply cancel with  
another press of 'home' and then you're back in Shazam with speech.

   HOpe this helps. I actually go into this on the latest  
Maccessibility Round Table podcast, for anyone whose interested.

Smiles,

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On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:

hit home and then relaunch, is the only way so far.

On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song  
> has been tagged.  Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have  
> you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset?
> TIA,
> Donna
>
>
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RE: Voice Over Menu

[Blake Sinnett]

For the VoiceOver Quickstart, try VO-command-F8. For the command help, Try 
VO-H-H.

 

HTH,

Blake
 
> Subject: Voice Over Menu
> From: sunrisings...@aim.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:49:46 -0500
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey there everyone.
> 
> I am really liking VoiceOver in its new iteration
> 
> One thing I have noticed though, I am unable to go to the VoiceOver 
> Menu. I am not even able to bring up the VoiceOver quick start if I 
> wanted too.
> 
> Anyone have an idea of how to solve this?
> 
> I liked the VO menu, since it was a handy tool to reference commands 
> for VO.
> 
> Take care everyone.
> 
> Fonzie
> 
> > 

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Re: Voice Over Menu

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  Did you try control+option+h?

On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Alfonzo Cuellar wrote:

>
> Hey there everyone.
>
> I am really liking VoiceOver in its new iteration
>
> One thing I have noticed though, I am unable to go to the VoiceOver
> Menu.  I am not even able to bring up the VoiceOver quick start if I
> wanted too.
>
> Anyone have an idea of how to solve this?
>
> I liked the VO menu, since it was a handy tool to reference commands
> for VO.
>
> Take care everyone.
>
> Fonzie
>
> >


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Tip for Snow Leopard: When Moving the Cursor

[Blake Sinnett]

Hello all,

 

For you ex-Windows users, Snow leopard has a feature that just might make your 
lives a little easier.

 

If you're used to editing a document in Windows, you'll be used to the screen 
readers for that platform speaking everything to the right of the insertion 
point. VoiceOver's default behavior, however, speaks characters the insertion 
point passes. If you were at the top of a document and the first word was 
VoiceOver, for example, you would hear the capital V, because the insertion 
point just passed that character. You would hear the capital V again if you 
pressed left arrow, because the insertion point would pass the letter going in 
the opposite direction.

 

In Snow Leopard, there is now a setting that will speak characters to the right 
of the insertion point.

 


Open the VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
When you land in the categories table, press V to get to the verbosity category.
VO-right arrow twice to the text tab, and VO-space to select it.
VO-right arrow until you hear "When Moving the Cursor."
VO-right arrow one more time. You should hear "Speak text the cursor passes." 
Press VO-space to open the pop-up button.
VO-down arrow to select speak text to the right of the cursor.
Press VO-Space to select the option and close the pop-up menu.
Press command-Q to quit the VoiceOver Utility.
 

When you're in a document and move by character, you should now have the more 
familiar Windows screen reader behavior. This might not be to everybody's 
taste, but I thought it might be useful for some.

 

Thanks,

Blake

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Yahoo! Messenger for IPhone, now with accessibility features

[Victor Tsaran]

Hello all,
The new version of the Yahoo! Messenger for IPhone has just been 
released and it is much more accessible than its predecessor, with new 
features such as push notifications etc.

Find it here: http://messenger.yahoo.com/iphone

Enjoy,
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Re: System Profiler, something I wasn't aware of

[Victor Tsaran]

This is all thanks to the powerful Unix kernel behind the scenes.

On 8/28/2009 8:18 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> Yeah. System Profiler is awesome. It contains a lot of great information
> about your Mac. I got pretty surprised then I found out how much
> information it gives. I can give you an example. Here is what it says
> about my power:
>
> *Battery Information:*
>
> Model Information:
> Serial Number: DP-ASMB016-38cd-23e3
> Manufacturer: DP
> Device name: ASMB016
> Pack Lot Code: 0002
> PCB Lot Code: 
> Firmware Version: 0110
> Hardware Revision: 0500
> Cell Revision: 0102
> Charge Information:
> Charge remaining (mAh): 4724
> Fully charged: Yes
> Charging: No
> Full charge capacity (mAh): 4848
> Health Information:
> Cycle count: 17
> Condition: Good
> Battery Installed: Yes
> Amperage (mA): 0
> Voltage (mV): 12468
>
> *System Power Settings:*
>
> AC Power:
> System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
> Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
> Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
> Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No
> Wake On AC Change: No
> Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
> Wake On LAN: Yes
> Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
> Battery Power:
> System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
> Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
> Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2
> Wake On AC Change: No
> Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
> Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
> Reduce Brightness: Yes
>
> *Hardware Configuration:*
>
> UPS Installed: No
>
> *AC Charger Information:*
>
> Connected: Yes
> Charging: No
>
>
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk 
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>
> On 28/08/2009, at 14.36, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm sure most of you are aware of the System Profiler in your "Apple"
>> Menu? This utility displays a profile of your Mac
>>
>> I've just had to use it to check on something and I thought I'd do
>> some further exploration and I was well rewarded. For example, did you
>> know that you can save your System profile to a file? Very handy to
>> email the tech should you have to or send to someone, you can save in
>> multiple formats including XML, RTF and TXT.
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Dane Trethowan
>> From Melton Victoria Australia
>> mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net 
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane
>> blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com
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>> Phone Australia
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>> Phone United States
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>> Fax:
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>> skype:grtdane12
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Voice Over Menu

[Alfonzo Cuellar]

Hey there everyone.

I am really liking VoiceOver in its new iteration

One thing I have noticed though, I am unable to go to the VoiceOver  
Menu.  I am not even able to bring up the VoiceOver quick start if I  
wanted too.

Anyone have an idea of how to solve this?

I liked the VO menu, since it was a handy tool to reference commands  
for VO.

Take care everyone.

Fonzie

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Voiceover Manual

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I'm not a user of Snow Leopard yet but I should be in the next week.   
Just wondering if the Voiceover manuals and documentation have been  
updated  yet?



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hotspots in vo

[a radix]

Hello everyone, i have been working with the mac os x this evening, what 
disconcerted me, however is that if i go to another page or just another window 
with cmd-tab, then my focus will be lost in the webpage i am using (i use  a 
lot of text pages with few links but lots of texr). I wonder if the hotspots 
would help here?
Greetings, anouk
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Re: Braille tables for other languages

[Justin Harford]

I would love to also see someone help them get braille tables in  
Spanish.  I would more love to do it myself but I don't have the  
necessary resources to send them, I.E access to a windows or linux  
computer with such tables.


Regards
Justin Harford
On 28/08/2009, at 12:02, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>
> My husband has created Braille tables for Snow Leopard in the
> following languages: Danish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Norwegian,
> Russian and Swedish.
>
> He would like to provide any other languages for which the Braille
> codes can be provided. He would particularly like to have Italian,
> Spanish and Portuguese.
>
> To create a Braille table, he needs the 8-dot patterns, the print
> character equivalents, and the corresponding unicode codes.
>
> If anyone can help with this, please e-mail us at:
> 
>
> This is also the address for requesting Braille tables.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> >


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Re: Correction about Braille tables

[Greg Kearney]

I know swedish and could do them.

Sent from my iPhone

On 29/08/2009, at 3:10 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we
> still need the Braille codes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[Scott Chesworth]

Just finished installing our snowy buddy here, quick nav has been the
first thing I've toyed with, and Josh is so right to be as
enthusiastic as he is in the review.  This is probably the neatest
peace of usability I've seen from Apple so far!  Totally simple to
learn, and faster to navigate and explore pretty much any screen than
I initially thoughtit would be.  Whoever had the idea is onto
something good and no mistaking it.

Wew, not like me to have bursts of optomism like that.  I'm off for a
sit down lol.

On 8/28/09, Josh de Lioncourt  wrote:
>
>
> Obviously, you can't have every VO command available via just he arrow
> keys. :) However, you can assign any VO commands to the Numpad,
> Trackpad, or Keyboard commands in SL.
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> hi josh but as stated in article, its limitations are present so you
>> can't go to the doc with this feature etc etc? so you would still need
>> to use the VO keys to accomplish tasks like links lists, etc
>>
>> On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:27, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> QuickNav is one of my favorite features of Snow Leopard. I discuss
>>> this in my review on Lioncourt.com, but essentially, Left/Right
>>> arrows
>>> toggle QuickNav on and off. Down-Right interacts. Down-Left stops
>>> interacting. Up-Down clicks an item, same as VO-Space.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:04 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>

hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
 If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
 WIll


>
>>>
>>>

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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[Josh de Lioncourt]

Obviously, you can't have every VO command available via just he arrow  
keys. :) However, you can assign any VO commands to the Numpad,  
Trackpad, or Keyboard commands in SL.

On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
> hi josh but as stated in article, its limitations are present so you
> can't go to the doc with this feature etc etc? so you would still need
> to use the VO keys to accomplish tasks like links lists, etc
>
> On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:27, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> QuickNav is one of my favorite features of Snow Leopard. I discuss
>> this in my review on Lioncourt.com, but essentially, Left/Right  
>> arrows
>> toggle QuickNav on and off. Down-Right interacts. Down-Left stops
>> interacting. Up-Down clicks an item, same as VO-Space.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:04 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
>>> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
>>> WIll
>>>
>>>

>>
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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[VaShaun Jones]

What part of Virginia are you in?
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

>
> Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the
> drive format and install now.
>
> CB
>
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Re: Problem accessing menue bar.

[Jesse Bollinger]

Thank you for the help. For the life of me I couldn't figure that one  
out.
On Aug 28, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Jesse,
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>>
>> Not sure if this is my fault or not. In Leopard if I pressed control
>> and F8, I was given the menu bar I think it was called. The place
>> where you could check the battery status and the time.
> It's the Status menu.
>
>> Now when I
>> press this command I'm not given this menu. Do I need to turn
>> something on?
> You can either press the FN key along with the Control key and F8,  
> or go into System Preferences, then to the Keyboard pane. Select  
> Keyboard and check the "Use all F1, F2, etc keys as standard  
> function keys" checkbox. This will fix your problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
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Re: Weird number issue: decimals

[James & Nash]

This might be a silly suggestion but do you have punctuation turned on? I can't 
test this out for you as I dont have a Mac to hand right now.  Sorry if you've 
tried this 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Blake Sinnett 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; macvoiceo...@freelists.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:22 PM
  Subject: Weird number issue: decimals


  Hi folks,
   
  I'm loving Snow Leopard so far! This is the best version of VoiceOver yet. 
However, there is a slight problem I'm having.
   
  I ran into an issue when I went to fill in my static IP address. When I enter 
192.168.1.1, VoiceOver says 1 9 2 point 1 point 8 point 1 point 1. This happens 
regardless of the numbers being read as words or digits.
   
  So, I did a little test and opened up text edit and wrote a random number 
with decimals, and it seems to happen with any number with a decimal and 3 
digits after it. IE, 123.456.
   
  Could anyone else confirm if this is the case for them? If it is, I'll report 
it to accessibility and I'd encourage all of us to do the same.
   
  Thanks,
  Blake

  

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Re: Correction about Braille tables

[James & Nash]

First off, I think Anne and Archie are doing a fantastic job compling and 
distributing these tables so keep up the good work both of you smile. This 
is a fantastic thing you are doing for the community so thank you both very 
much.

Secondly, Orca is written in Python, so if you want to try and import the 
Orca Braille tables it would be worth looking at if this is possible.

Take care

james
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To: 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Correction about Braille tables


>
> can we import the tables from orca i wonder? like chinese?
>
> On 28 Aug 2009, at 21:19, Chris Hofstader wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think you can probably get a whole bunch of braille tables for
>> different languages if you look at the orca project which seems to
>> support about a zillion languages and dialects.  It's all free
>> software so you needn't worry about copyright in any traditional sense
>> of the term.
>>
>> cdh
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we
>>> still need the Braille codes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
>
>
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10 findings in Finder

[John André Netland]

Hi all,

Would just like to share the small but nice changes from Leopard I  
have found in Finder so far, the ones that you find one by one in Snow  
Leopard..

•You do not need to interact at all when entering info windows in  
Finder anymore.
•In Finder copy windows, you do not need to interact to see status and  
alerts anymore.
•Alias files and folders are indicated
•Empty folders are indicated when browsing
•Folders you do not have access permission to is indicated when  
browsing.
•Burn folders in Finder is also indicated
•You now have access to mute and timeline slider in QuickLook.
•Menu items that was doubled in Leopard, are now a toggle when you  
press the option key. Try Empty trash menu item  to see how it works.
•The desktop is now empty by default, no HD shown. I like that. Turn  
it on in the prefs if you like them to show.

Now, it is your turn, find Top 10 in every app. I am sure you will  
find them. ;-)

Take care,
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Re: Problem accessing menue bar.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jesse,

On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is my fault or not. In Leopard if I pressed control
> and F8, I was given the menu bar I think it was called. The place
> where you could check the battery status and the time.
It's the Status menu.

> Now when I
> press this command I'm not given this menu. Do I need to turn
> something on?
You can either press the FN key along with the Control key and F8, or  
go into System Preferences, then to the Keyboard pane. Select Keyboard  
and check the "Use all F1, F2, etc keys as standard function keys"  
checkbox. This will fix your problem.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Marie Howarth]

great article, can't wait to try my kitty tomorrow, been way too busy  
today lol. and Josh I feel your pain the lacking of a track pad. :)

On Aug 28, 2009, at 6:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>
> Hi Josh,
>  This is a fantastic overview of Snow Leopard.  Great job and
> thanks for the information.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John Panarese
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote:
>
>>
>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>
>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
>> with
>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest
>> iteration of
>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users  
>> perspective.
>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on
>> Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>
>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>> http://maccessibility.net
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: clean install or upgrade?

[Chris G]

My upgrade went fine.
Chris



On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:30:15 -0400
Chantel Cuddemi  wrote:

> 
> I am doing an upgrade as well.
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Chris G wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm planning on doing an upgrade.  So we will see how that goes.
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:06:45 +0100
> > william lomas  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc
> >> utility then erase and install.
> >> I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at
> >> present what I have is working
> >>
> >> On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not
> >>> sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel
> >>> it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any
> >>> platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can  
> >>> someone
> >>> explain the steps for doing a "clean install?" I'm sure it's been
> >>> discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000
> >>> messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly
> >>> deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and  
> >>> all
> >>> other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't  
> >>> use
> >>> time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me
> >>> deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to
> >>> just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my
> >>> emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of
> >>> archiving them before I do this?
> >>>
> >>> and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's
> >>> time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all
> >>> the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty  
> >>> excited
> >>> about it!!
> >>> Jessi and Goldina
> >>> On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> >>>
> 
>  I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit  
>  more
>  time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable,
>  certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac
>  pod
>  cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay
>  tuned for that.
>  On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote:
> 
> > Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade
> > (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY
> > BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I
> > would actually like it if my current settings could be used.
> > Greetings, Anouk
> >
> >>
> 
> 
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > -- 
> > Chris G 
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Esther]

Hi Krister,

Which menu of keyboard commands are you referring to?  Is this on the  
of the menus that shows up under the VoiceOver menu (VO-F7)?  Or do  
you mean the list of commands:

http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/voiceoverkeys.shtml

I also keep a copy of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide to Leopard,  
and make a bookmark in Preview to the Appendix page that lists all the  
VoiceOver shortcuts (starting page 103), and also to the NumPad  
Commander shortcuts.  Then, when I navigate to the Bookmarks menu in  
Preview and select the shortcut, Preview will find and open the Guide  
for me at the desired page from the bookmark.

Cheers,

Esther

Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi,
> What i can't help wondering about is if drag and drop is better
> supported in SL. For some reason i can't reach the voiceover keyboard
> commands. The page is empty and i can't fathom why. If there's a text
> file of the keyboard reference somewhere, i'd be happy to get it.
> One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices
> on the fly, that's cool
> /Krister
> 28 aug 2009 kl. 17.02 skrev Larry Wanger:
>
>>
>> Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee  
>> it
>> as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on
>> it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not  
>> allow
>> for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound
>> terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old  
>> now.
>> Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it.  Too bad.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>>
>>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
>>> with
>>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest
>>> iteration of
>>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users
>>> perspective.
>>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on
>>> Snow
>>> Leopard.
>>>
>>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>>
>>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>>> http://maccessibility.net
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire]

I believe the voice is 'Alex". Please correct me if i'm wrong.
JG

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM, James & Nash <
james.austin1...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> What voice was used? Just curious. Also what type of Mac do you have?
>
> Thanks
>
> Take care

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Problem accessing menue bar.

[Jesse Bollinger]

Hi all,

Not sure if this is my fault or not. In Leopard if I pressed control  
and F8, I was given the menu bar I think it was called. The place  
where you could check the battery status and the time. Now when I  
press this command I'm not given this menu. Do I need to turn  
something on?

Jesse

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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[VaShaun Jones]

Yeah I just got my cat too.
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

>
> Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the
> drive format and install now.
>
> CB
>
> >

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Re: Braille tables for other languages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Will,

On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:11 PM, william lomas wrote:
> this is fabulous news. I obtained the french table off you
> which I assume is unmodified in the snowleopard one?
As far as the user is concerned, there have been no modifications to  
the French Braille table.

> I may look at purchasing a braille display. I assume then that no
> language tables were included with SL?
That's right. What we're providing in SL is a package of all the  
Braille tables we produce. Once installed, the popup menu in VoiceOver  
Utility will show all the available braille tables in the language of  
the OS. So, if your OS is in German, the names of the languages will  
be in German. As we add languages, we'll update the whole package.  
We're doing it this way because of the way Braille is implemented in  
Snow Leopard.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: flac to alac converter, max from sbooth

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  I use  aprogram called max for converting ogg to mp3 files.   
Is this what you are asking about?  it was a little tricky to get it  
set up, but once you do it will process as many files as you cue up.   
It works in the background and will announce when all encoding tasks  
are done.  I hope this helps.  Good luck, Max
On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:30 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, has anyone tried max from sbooth? I wonder if it can do batsh  
> convertion.
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
> >


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quick start in SL

[william lomas]

Hi in snow leopard does quick start teach quick nav, table navigation  
web navigation with the new advanced features, etc?
Will


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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[Brent Harding]

If you did that, you wouldn't have feedback once it reboots.

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>
> i will just install from within leopard
>
>
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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[william lomas]

ah wow thanks for this now it does sound appealing! lol


On 28 Aug 2009, at 20:43, John André Netland wrote:

>
> Hi Will,
>
> There is a huge difference between having the VO keys locked, and
> using the QuickNav feature.
>
> When VO keys are locked, you do not have access to the keyboard for
> normal use, and you will need to hold the shift key to interact and
> stop interacting.
> With QuickNav on, you can do it all with only the arrow keys by
> pressing different combinations of them, and you still have full
> access to your keyboard for texting and commands. Also, by still only
> using the QuickNav keys, you can switch the rotor status and jump
> between different items in the same category. The rotor status can be
> set to heading, links, frames etc. etc. and can be fully browsed by
> pressing VO-U. In QuickNav, you select rotor status with arrow up plus
> left or right arrow. After this, you jump with the up and down arrow.
> For example: Press left and up arrow at the same time until you hear
> "Heading", then down arrow until you hear the heading you want, right
> arrow to see what the body text sounds like, arrow down to next
> heading if you like etc.
> This was all about using it on the web, but if you are in a text
> document, changing the rotor switches you between words, letters and
> plain navigation.


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Re: Correction about Braille tables

[william lomas]

can we import the tables from orca i wonder? like chinese?

On 28 Aug 2009, at 21:19, Chris Hofstader wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I think you can probably get a whole bunch of braille tables for
> different languages if you look at the orca project which seems to
> support about a zillion languages and dialects.  It's all free
> software so you needn't worry about copyright in any traditional sense
> of the term.
>
> cdh
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we
>> still need the Braille codes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
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Re: slick!

[william lomas]

took fifty mins. You can erase and install from disc utility

On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:47, James & Nash wrote:

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> But I presume you can if you want to and then you can if you want to  
> as I
> do - start a clean erase and install?
>
> How lonbg did the installation tkae
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  
> X by
> the blind" 
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:33 PM
> Subject: slick!
>
>
>>
>> Hi I am helping a friend install mac os x snowleopard and we could
>> isntal it direct from within mac os x leopard itself! click ont he
>> icon, click next, agree to license, customize anthing and boom, done!
>> and, as voices are only available in english this is the quickest way
>> to install so no booting up from the DVD!
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: Braille tables for other languages

[william lomas]

hi anne this is fabulous news. I obtained the french table off you  
which I assume is unmodified in the snowleopard one?
I may look at purchasing a braille display. I assume then that no  
language tables were included with SL?
WIll

On 28 Aug 2009, at 20:02, Anne Robertson wrote:

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> Hello everyone,
>
> My husband has created Braille tables for Snow Leopard in the
> following languages: Danish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Norwegian,
> Russian and Swedish.
>
> He would like to provide any other languages for which the Braille
> codes can be provided. He would particularly like to have Italian,
> Spanish and Portuguese.
>
> To create a Braille table, he needs the 8-dot patterns, the print
> character equivalents, and the corresponding unicode codes.
>
> If anyone can help with this, please e-mail us at:
> 
>
> This is also the address for requesting Braille tables.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
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Weird number issue: decimals

[Blake Sinnett]

Hi folks,

 

I'm loving Snow Leopard so far! This is the best version of VoiceOver yet. 
However, there is a slight problem I'm having.

 

I ran into an issue when I went to fill in my static IP address. When I enter 
192.168.1.1, VoiceOver says 1 9 2 point 1 point 8 point 1 point 1. This happens 
regardless of the numbers being read as words or digits.

 

So, I did a little test and opened up text edit and wrote a random number with 
decimals, and it seems to happen with any number with a decimal and 3 digits 
after it. IE, 123.456.

 

Could anyone else confirm if this is the case for them? If it is, I'll report 
it to accessibility and I'd encourage all of us to do the same.

 

Thanks,

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Re: quick start?

[John André Netland]

Hi,

This works different in Snow Leopard, press VO-H to get a menu with  
help options, and if you want the Quick Guide directly, press VO- 
command-F8 to start it.

The online help under VO-H also contains overview with all new features.

Thanks,
John André





Den 28. aug. 2009 kl. 22.27 skrev Esther:

>
> Hi Will,
>
> On Leopard you can also access the VoiceOver Quick Start from the Help
> menu of the VoiceOver menu.  Does that work?  VO-F7 to bring up the
> VoiceOver menu, navigate to Help and right arrow to the submenu. The
> VoiceOver Quick Start is one of those entries, as well as another
> entry to help you learn sounds, etc,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey all if one quits the quick start which comes up I assume, when
>> they have installed leopard, how do they bring it up again or is this
>> not possible? I assume voice over command f eight doesn't work since
>> on a friends it doesnothing
>>
>
>
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Re: voiceover in snowleopard thanks to josh!

[Søren Jensen]

I totally agree. This review is totally awesome and very well written.  
Especially when it's written on the first release day.
Best regards:
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On 28/08/2009, at 16.29, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi all thanks to lioncourt.com here is a review of all the voice
> over features, in snow leopard.
> Josh, can I please assume that quick nav is only used for navigating
> web etc. as you will still need the modifier keys though to go to doc,
> bring up link chooser etc?
> I, to, like the trackpad so may inthe future (although have only had
> this mac a year) upgrade the macbook. Incidentally though in the
> quickstart tutorial what happens when you get to the gesture elements
> does it skip?
> Again thanks
> WIll
>
>
> And now  folks, the link, smile
>
> http://www.lioncourt.com/reviews/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
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>
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Braille tables for other languages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

My husband has created Braille tables for Snow Leopard in the  
following languages: Danish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Norwegian,  
Russian and Swedish.

He would like to provide any other languages for which the Braille  
codes can be provided. He would particularly like to have Italian,  
Spanish and Portuguese.

To create a Braille table, he needs the 8-dot patterns, the print  
character equivalents, and the corresponding unicode codes.

If anyone can help with this, please e-mail us at:


This is also the address for requesting Braille tables.

Cheers,

Anne


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[Mac-cessibility News] Assistiveware Releases Public Beta of the Infovox iVox Voices

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Assistiveware Releases Public Beta of the Infovox iVox Voices

AssistiveWare today announced a public beta of Infovox iVox v2.0. Version 2.0
brings Snow Leopard compatibility, significant improvements to performance and
responsiveness, and adds a number of new voices including Arabic, French,
German, Flemish, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, and Turkish. These voices work
with virtually any Speech Manager compliant Mac OS X application, including
VoiceOver, AssistiveWare [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
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First thing that I noticed in SL that I like

[VaShaun Jones]

Is the new indicator that allows for some type of audio feedback when  
entering passwords. THis was long awaited.
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Josh et. al.
I agree on both counts.
Marshall

On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.
>
> I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today.  This is the
> excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
> something.
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/28/09, Maccessibility  wrote:
>>
>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>
>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard  
>> with
>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest  
>> iteration of
>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users  
>> perspective.
>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts  
>> on Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>
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>> http://maccessibility.net
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Re: slick!

[James & Nash]

But I presume you can if you want to and then you can if you want to as I 
do - start a clean erase and install?

How lonbg did the installation tkae

- Original Message - 
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To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
the blind" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:33 PM
Subject: slick!


>
> Hi I am helping a friend install mac os x snowleopard and we could
> isntal it direct from within mac os x leopard itself! click ont he
> icon, click next, agree to license, customize anthing and boom, done!
> and, as voices are only available in english this is the quickest way
> to install so no booting up from the DVD!
>
>
> > 


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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[John André Netland]

A little correction Scott; when QuickNav is enabled, up and down takes  
you between the items that matches the category you have set with the  
rotor. Left and right takes you left or right on the screen. It works  
similar as on an iPHone. Left and right is like flicking left and  
right with one finger, up and down is like flicking up and down  
between web items or Words/letters with one finger.

Take care,
John André


Den 28. aug. 2009 kl. 17.26 skrev Scott Chesworth:

>
> Haven't tried it myself yet, but according to the review I just read:
> hit left and right arrows together to enable or disable quick nav,
> once enabled, arrow keys alone act as if VO keys are being held down,
> Hit down and right arrows together to interact,
> Hit down and left arrows together to end interaction,
> Hit up and down arrows together to perform the standard action on  
> any control.
>
> If it's as well implimented as I'm hoping, I have a feeling this is
> how I'll be doing 80% of my navigation from now on.  One handed,
> simple, hats off to Apple for a good idea.
>
> On 8/28/09, william lomas  wrote:
>>
>>  hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
>> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
>> WIll
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Web Navigation Commands in VoiceOver [was Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage]

[Mark Baxter]

Thanks so much! There's a lot of useful stuff here that I didn't know;  
and I thought I was handy with web navigation. :)


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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

[Mark Baxter]

Ah yes, the obvious keystroke that would be the one that I miss. :)  
Thanks much.


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Re: itunes

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Anouk,

I believe the default behavior is to copy the music to your iTunes  
music folder. You can change it so that shortcuts are made to the  
songs, but new copies aren't made if you want in the Advanced tab in  
the Preferences dialog box.

HTH,
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Re: quick start?

[Esther]

Hi Will,

On Leopard you can also access the VoiceOver Quick Start from the Help  
menu of the VoiceOver menu.  Does that work?  VO-F7 to bring up the  
VoiceOver menu, navigate to Help and right arrow to the submenu. The  
VoiceOver Quick Start is one of those entries, as well as another  
entry to help you learn sounds, etc,

Cheers,

Esther

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>
> Hey all if one quits the quick start which comes up I assume, when
> they have installed leopard, how do they bring it up again or is this
> not possible? I assume voice over command f eight doesn't work since
> on a friends it doesnothing
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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

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Great; just another thing to drool about until I get the new kitten.   
First, I gotta get a new litterbox. :)


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Re: Selecting between multiple cities on the IPhone?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.

Thanks very much. That might also work here in Denmark.
Best regards:
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On 27/08/2009, at 12.38, Thuy wrote:

>
> Hi I'm in the UK, and it seems to work OK for me. Not sure how
> accurate the yahoo weather is though? It always seems to be a couple
> of degrees lower than the BBC and the actual temperatures. I might try
> and see if you can change the weather centre information that it uses?
> Ideas anyone?
>
> On 26/08/2009, Søren Jensen  wrote:
>>
>> Does this widget only works in the US?
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>
>> On 26/08/2009, at 15.10, Thuy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Vic. You need to do a three finger swipe left or right to go
>>> through the pages that display each city.
>>> Hope this helps?
>>>
>>> Thuy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/08/2009, Victor Tsaran  wrote:

 Hello all,
 I am sorry for asking this silly question, but I can't figure out
 how to
 switch between multiple cities in the "weather" widget on the  
 IPhone.
 I've added several of them but can only access the last one. I've
 tried
 all the gestures I could think of, but nothing works.

 Thanks for any advice.
 Vic

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Re: Correction about Braille tables

[Chris Hofstader]

Hi,

I think you can probably get a whole bunch of braille tables for  
different languages if you look at the orca project which seems to  
support about a zillion languages and dialects.  It's all free  
software so you needn't worry about copyright in any traditional sense  
of the term.

cdh
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

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> Hello everyone,
>
> I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we
> still need the Braille codes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> >


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way files are sorted on os x

[a radix]

Hello I am now copying over some files from my windows machine to the mac (no 
better way to learn the system then just using it) i am noticing though that it 
seems as if folders are not sorted first (in windows i first got a list of all 
the folders and then the files) this seems to be different on the mac, this is 
a bit of a problem for me sinc emy music folder consists of a fes bufrolders 
and about 2000 loose files (messy i know) is there a way to sort stuff so that 
folders are shown first?
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dummies guide

[Damon Fibraio]

OK. I have two macs, a mac mini and a mac book pro, 2007 version. Sadly, I
haven't gotten up the tie or nerve to fully learn mac osx, so I use them as
windows pc's instead through bootcamp. I am intrigued by what I have read
about snowleopard and am considering dumping the $29 per license to get it.
Since I barely use the mac side of things, a full install would be fine. I
know I can hold down C while booting up and boot drom the CD, I think. Does
voice over come up automatically or do I have to issue the command to start
it once the install starts. Can somebody give me a quick reject guide to
getting this done? Also, will the macbook pro 2007 models work with the
multitouch track pad features of SL? Thanks. 



 

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itunes

[a radix]

Hello, i am new to itunes, in windows i always used foobar, i had one big 
folder with files and i always pressed the key so that the whole fodler would 
be played ands huffle.d
I gathered that in itunes i needed to add stuff to the library so i added a big 
fodler with lots of files (all the music from the eurovision song contest from 
1956-2009 in mp3-format) to itunes (add to library) am i right in thinking that 
the files in the original fodler were copied (not deleted) tot he itunes folder 
and converted or what did happen?
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Re: how to play chm files on the mac

[Moi Lejter]

There is this:

http://chmox.sourceforge.net/

Moises

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Correction about Braille tables

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Hello everyone,

I made a mistake about Swedish. This is another language for which we  
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how to play chm files on the machELLO, I HAVE A CHM FILE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY ON THE MAC BUT IT DOESNT SEEM AS IF IT IS STANDARD SUPPORTED, ON WINDOWS I WOULD USE THE HELP VIEWER. iS THERE A PROG

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[James & Nash]

Go here for at least some info and a tutorial on AppleScript
http://www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/
- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With 
VoiceOver


>
> are there books on apple script available to us?
> if so, where?
>
> On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:48, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>>
>> Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.
>>
>> I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today.  This is the
>> excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
>> something.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/28/09, Maccessibility  wrote:
>>>
>>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>>
>>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
>>> with
>>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest
>>> iteration of
>>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users
>>> perspective.
>>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts
>>> on Snow
>>> Leopard.
>>>
>>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>>
>>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>>> http://maccessibility.net
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>
>> >
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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[Scott Chesworth]

Haven't tried it myself yet, but according to the review I just read:
hit left and right arrows together to enable or disable quick nav,
once enabled, arrow keys alone act as if VO keys are being held down,
Hit down and right arrows together to interact,
Hit down and left arrows together to end interaction,
Hit up and down arrows together to perform the standard action on any control.

If it's as well implimented as I'm hoping, I have a feeling this is
how I'll be doing 80% of my navigation from now on.  One handed,
simple, hats off to Apple for a good idea.

On 8/28/09, william lomas  wrote:
>
>   hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
> WIll
>
>
> >
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Re: infovox ivox beta

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Justin,

On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>
> Would any one here happen to have tried the infovox ivox voices with
> snow leopard?  How do they work?
>
They work better than ever. I've tried British English, French and  
French Canadian.

Cheers,

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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[John André Netland]

Hi Will,

There is a huge difference between having the VO keys locked, and  
using the QuickNav feature.

When VO keys are locked, you do not have access to the keyboard for  
normal use, and you will need to hold the shift key to interact and  
stop interacting.
With QuickNav on, you can do it all with only the arrow keys by  
pressing different combinations of them, and you still have full  
access to your keyboard for texting and commands. Also, by still only  
using the QuickNav keys, you can switch the rotor status and jump  
between different items in the same category. The rotor status can be  
set to heading, links, frames etc. etc. and can be fully browsed by  
pressing VO-U. In QuickNav, you select rotor status with arrow up plus  
left or right arrow. After this, you jump with the up and down arrow.  
For example: Press left and up arrow at the same time until you hear  
"Heading", then down arrow until you hear the heading you want, right  
arrow to see what the body text sounds like, arrow down to next  
heading if you like etc.
This was all about using it on the web, but if you are in a text  
document, changing the rotor switches you between words, letters and  
plain navigation.


HOpe this helps,
John André



Den 28. aug. 2009 kl. 21.00 skrev william lomas:

>
> hi steve it is just like having control and option locked now though
> as in leopard so doubt i'd need it
>
> On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:22, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote:
>
>>
>> I've used it, you use different combinations of the arrow keys to
>> interact, ETC...
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>
>>  hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
>> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
>> WIll
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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quick start?

[william lomas]

Hey all if one quits the quick start which comes up I assume, when  
they have installed leopard, how do they bring it up again or is this  
not possible? I assume voice over command f eight doesn't work since  
on a friends it doesnothing


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Web Navigation Commands in VoiceOver [was Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage]

[Esther]

Hi Mark,

Under Leopard, VO-Command-V will take you to the next visited  
hyperlink and VO-Command-Shift-V to the previous visited hyperlink.  I  
assume that Snow Leopard supports this and other features.

More generally, to review the different web page navigation features  
in VoiceOver, bring up the VoiceOver menu (VO-F7), navigate to the  
Search menu (with arrow keys or by pressing "S"), and then right arrow  
to read the search menu options.  You can also use the shortcut VO- 
Shift-F to directly bring up this menu.  As a late-comer to the  
Leopard upgrade from Tiger, I spent some time reading through the  
improved navigation features listed here, especially the commands for  
header navigation like VO-Command-H to navigate to the next header and  
VO-Command-M to navigate to the next header at the same level (and the  
counterpart commands with the shift key added to navigate to the  
previous instance).  Spending some time with that search menu list (VO- 
Shift-F) will be very helpful in speeding up your web page navigation.

Also, for new list members, there's a configuration option under  
Safari you can check to give you more navigation options.  Bring up  
your preferences menu (Command-comma), Interact with the Toolbar (VO- 
Shift-Down Arrow) and navigate to the Advanced menu button (with VO- 
Right arrow). Press the button (VO-Space) and VO-Right arrow to the  
Advanced menu pane.   There's a Universal access option checkbox for  
"Press tab to highlight each item on a web page".  If it is unchecked,  
pressing tab just takes you to the next text box or button, while  
pressing option-tab highlights each element and takes you to the next  
link, text box, button, etc.  You can switch this behavior by checking  
the box with VO-Space.  Then Option-Tab will only navigate to the next  
text box or button (and skip all links), while tab takes you to the  
next element.  This is especially useful for Tiger users who don't  
have access to the added web navigation features of Leopard and is  
easy to overlook, since its not a VoiceOver utility setting, but one  
found in the Safari preferences.  When you're finished with the  
preferences menu, close the window with Command-W.

Not sure how long these instructions will be valid with Snow Leopard,  
but they help for Leopard.

Cheers,

Esther


Cheers,

Esther
Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> On  related note, is there a way to navigate by "visited links," on a
> webpage?  In a certain other screen reach which shall remain
> shamefully nameless (but not namefully shameless), you just hit V;
> what's the VO equivalent, if any?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
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Re: clean install or upgrade?

[Chantel Cuddemi]

I am doing an upgrade as well.
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Chris G wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I'm planning on doing an upgrade.  So we will see how that goes.
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:06:45 +0100
> william lomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> you go to the utilities menu in the installer i think chose disc
>> utility then erase and install.
>> I will watch feedback over next couple months then upgrade but at
>> present what I have is working
>>
>> On 28 Aug 2009, at 06:54, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not
>>> sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel
>>> it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any
>>> platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can  
>>> someone
>>> explain the steps for doing a "clean install?" I'm sure it's been
>>> discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000
>>> messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly
>>> deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and  
>>> all
>>> other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't  
>>> use
>>> time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me
>>> deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to
>>> just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my
>>> emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of
>>> archiving them before I do this?
>>>
>>> and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's
>>> time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all
>>> the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty  
>>> excited
>>> about it!!
>>> Jessi and Goldina
>>> On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>

 I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit  
 more
 time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable,
 certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac
 pod
 cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay
 tuned for that.
 On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade
> (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY
> BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I
> would actually like it if my current settings could be used.
> Greetings, Anouk
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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>
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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[James & Nash]

Apparently from what I've read, when QuickNav is turned on, pressing the 
down arrow to interact with an element or item assumes that you are already 
holding down the VO keys. It's like a hot key for interacting when Quick Nav 
is on. But of course others who are using SL would be better placed to 
extole its virtues. Should be getting my new Mac in a few weeks along with a 
shiny copy of SL but I will wait a while before upgrading until all the apps 
i use are SL compliant .
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To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
the blind" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: anyone tried quicknav?


>
> hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
> WIll
>
>
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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[James & Nash]

What voice was used? Just curious. Also what type of Mac do you have?

Thanks

Take care
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To: "Chris Blouch" 
Cc: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Snow leopard just arrived


>
> Total install took 19 minutes and filled 6.08GB of disk space. QuickNav
> worked during the install but the voice was not Alex. Probably takes
> less CPU or load time to use a lower quality voice. Even though I have
> VO on during the install, after the reboot I had to turn it on again.
>
> CB
>
> Chris Blouch wrote:
>> Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the
>> drive format and install now.
>>
>> CB
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apple getting started with voicover guide for sl?

[a radix]

Hello, is there any indication when this will be available?
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[william lomas]

if you change voices on the fly are the recent voices you used at the  
top of the list?

On 28 Aug 2009, at 19:42, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi,
> What i can't help wondering about is if drag and drop is better
> supported in SL. For some reason i can't reach the voiceover keyboard
> commands. The page is empty and i can't fathom why. If there's a text
> file of the keyboard reference somewhere, i'd be happy to get it.
> One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices
> on the fly, that's cool
> /Krister
> 28 aug 2009 kl. 17.02 skrev Larry Wanger:
>
>>
>> Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee  
>> it
>> as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on
>> it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not  
>> allow
>> for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound
>> terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old  
>> now.
>> Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it.  Too bad.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>>
>>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
>>> with
>>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest
>>> iteration of
>>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users
>>> perspective.
>>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on
>>> Snow
>>> Leopard.
>>>
>>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>>
>>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>>> http://maccessibility.net
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[william lomas]

are there books on apple script available to us?
if so, where?

On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:48, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.
>
> I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today.  This is the
> excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
> something.
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/28/09, Maccessibility  wrote:
>>
>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>
>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard  
>> with
>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest  
>> iteration of
>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users  
>> perspective.
>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts  
>> on Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>
>> The Mac-cessibility Network
>> "...it's all within our reach..."
>> http://maccessibility.net
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[william lomas]

hi steve it is just like having control and option locked now though  
as in leopard so doubt i'd need it

On 28 Aug 2009, at 17:22, Steven M. Sawczyn wrote:

>
> I've used it, you use different combinations of the arrow keys to
> interact, ETC...
>
> Steve
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>
>   hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
> If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
> WIll
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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RE: using Shazam on the Iphone

[Donna Goodin]

That's OK, it's better than a reset! :)

Thanks.

Donna

 

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Subject: Re: using Shazam on the Iphone

 

hit home and then relaunch, is the only way so far.

 

On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:





Hi all,

 

When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been
tagged.  Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some
way to get speech back other than doing a reset?
TIA,

Donna

 





 



 

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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[william lomas]

i will just install from within leopard


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Changing voices on the fly

[James & Nash]

One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices  on 
the fly, that's cool

How does this feature work? Do you have to navigate through all the various 
voices on Mac OS X or can you customize the list? Could you elaborate 
please?

Thank you

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Scott Chesworth]

Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.

I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today.  This is the
excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
something.

Scott

On 8/28/09, Maccessibility  wrote:
>
> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>
> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard with
> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest iteration of
> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective.
> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on Snow
> Leopard.
>
> You can read the rest of this news item at:
> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>
> The Mac-cessibility Network
> "...it's all within our reach..."
> http://maccessibility.net
>
>
> >
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[John Panarese]

Hi Josh,
  This is a fantastic overview of Snow Leopard.  Great job and  
thanks for the information.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote:

>
> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>
> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard  
> with
> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest  
> iteration of
> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users perspective.
> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on  
> Snow
> Leopard.
>
> You can read the rest of this news item at:
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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Mark,

Press VO-Command-V to go to the next visited link.

Best,
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[Mac-cessibility News] MacWorld's Christopher Breen Takes a Look at Snow Leopard's Universal Access Features

[Maccessibility]

MacWorld's Christopher Breen Takes a Look at Snow Leopard's Universal Access
Features

In a recent piece on MacWorld.com, senior editor Christopher Breen takes a look
at Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard's new Universal Access features. He examines
VoiceOver's Trackpad Commander, web browsing options, new QuickStart, and other
improvements. He also points out Snow Leopard's one additional option for the
hearing impaired.
It's fantastic to see Universal Access [...]

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flac-alac

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Hello, i forgot that there is another codec for the mac that can handle flac 
files, switch. But can this also convert flac files directly to alac?
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Snow leopard just arrived

[Chris Blouch]

Total install took 19 minutes and filled 6.08GB of disk space. QuickNav 
worked during the install but the voice was not Alex. Probably takes 
less CPU or load time to use a lower quality voice. Even though I have 
VO on during the install, after the reboot I had to turn it on again.

CB

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> Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the 
> drive format and install now.
>
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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mark,

In Snow Leopard, you can navigate by visited links.

Cheers,

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Re: anyone tried quicknav?

[Steven M. Sawczyn]

I've used it, you use different combinations of the arrow keys to  
interact, ETC...

Steve

On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, william lomas wrote:


hi all has anyone yet tried quicknav in snowleopard?
If so how does one interact etc, if not using the voiceover keys?
WIll





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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
What i can't help wondering about is if drag and drop is better  
supported in SL. For some reason i can't reach the voiceover keyboard  
commands. The page is empty and i can't fathom why. If there's a text  
file of the keyboard reference somewhere, i'd be happy to get it.
One feature that's also worth mentioning is that you can change voices  
on the fly, that's cool
/Krister
28 aug 2009 kl. 17.02 skrev Larry Wanger:

>
> Great review. I was going to wait and get SL later as I didn't seee it
> as a must have but after reading this I can't wait to get my hands on
> it. My Macbook Pro is from May of 2007 and I suspect it does not allow
> for the track pad navigation but the other improvements sound
> terrific. My poor iMac G5 is a power PC model that is 4 years old now.
> Its being left in the dust, can't even upgrade it.  Too bad.
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Maccessibility wrote:
>
>>
>> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver
>>
>> We're pleased to bring you our review of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
>> with
>> VoiceOver, where Josh de Lioncourt takes a look at the latest
>> iteration of
>> Apple's Macintosh operating system from a VoiceOver users  
>> perspective.
>> As always, enjoy, and feel free to comment with your own thoughts on
>> Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> You can read the rest of this news item at:
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/28/review-mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-with-voiceover/
>>
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>> http://maccessibility.net
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Snow leopard just arrived

[Chris Blouch]

Shipped from Jonestown PA and just arrived here in VA. Starting the 
drive format and install now.

CB

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Re: using Shazam on the Iphone

[Marie Howarth]

hit home and then relaunch, is the only way so far.

On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song  
> has been tagged.  Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have  
> you found some way to get speech back other than doing a reset?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Fwd: Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated

[Chris Blouch]

Makes sense to me. As one commenter mentioned, this just reconciles the 
disk space the OS reports with what the drive manufacturers advertise. 
No longer will you buy a 500GB drive and have it show up as 465GB. 
Another commenter pointed out that this was simply adoption of IEEE 1541.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002

CB

Scott Howell wrote:
> Here's an article that will screw with your mind a bit. :)
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *Date: *August 28, 2009 3:28:47 AM EDT
>> *Subject: **Snow Leopard changes how file and drive sizes are calculated*
>> *Source: *MacFixIt
>>
>> When you ask most non-geeks how many "bytes" are in a "kilobyte", 
>> after thinking about the root of the prefix "kilo" they might tell 
>> you "one thousand", and be both right and wrong at the same time.
>>
>> Read more… 
>>
>
>
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infovox ivox beta

[Justin Harford]

Hi all

Would any one here happen to have tried the infovox ivox voices with  
snow leopard?  How do they work?

J

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re: searching for text on a webpage

[a radix]

Sorry i replied to the wrong message before, i wanted to actually reply to 
annas message:
Hi, I will experiment a bit more with item chooser but i dont think that can 
reach the information i normaly use to navigate by. 

I will have to experiment and read a bit more of the manual because i have 
never realy used advanced webpage navigating before, just searched for text on 
a page and got by, btw I also got my hands on the book you mentioned and am 
planning to read it this evening, on the mac. Thanks a lot for all your help 
and support, it is greatly appreciated. 

Greetings, Anouk, 

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Re: using Shazam on the Iphone

[a radix]

Hi, I will experiment a bit more with item chooser but i dont think that can 
reach the information i normaly use to navigate by.
I will have to experiment and read a bit more of the manual because i have 
never realy used advanced webpage navigating before, just searched for text on 
a page and got by, btw I also got my hands on the book you mentioned and am 
planning to read it this evening, on the mac. Thanks a lot for all your help 
and support, it is greatly appreciated.
Greetings, Anouk,
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  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:15 PM
  Subject: using Shazam on the Iphone


  Hi all,

   

  When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been 
tagged.  Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some way 
to get speech back other than doing a reset?
  TIA,

  Donna

   


  

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using Shazam on the Iphone

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

 

When I use Shazam to tag a song, I always lose speech once the song has been
tagged.  Has anyone else experienced this, and if yes, have you found some
way to get speech back other than doing a reset?
TIA,

Donna

 


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Re: backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail

[James & Nash]

Hi Donna, 

I'm afraid I can't remember specifically as i don't have my new Mac yet, but I 
think you can copy all your contacts and rules by looking for someting to do 
with Mail in the Library folder. Perhaps someone can provide greater detail. 
Also, you can find help on this in the Mail help. Use Command and the question 
mark to bring it up. You'll then need to use the  Window Chooser Menu (VO =F2 
twice quickly) to find it as it is a floating window.

HTH

Take care 

James 
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  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:14 PM
  Subject: backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail


  Hi all,

   

  I would like to do a clean install of Snow Leopard when it comes.  Mostly 
this isn't a huge deal, because since I've just moved my stuff over to my mac 
recently, I already have backups on my portable drive.  The one exception to 
this is the folders I've created in mail.  Is there some way that I can create 
a copy of these that I can restore after I've installed Snow Leopard?

  Thanks,

  Donna


  

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flac to alac converter, max from sbooth

[a radix]

Hello, has anyone tried max from sbooth? I wonder if it can do batsh convertion.
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

[Mark Baxter]

On  related note, is there a way to navigate by "visited links," on a  
webpage?  In a certain other screen reach which shall remain  
shamefully nameless (but not namefully shameless), you just hit V;  
what's the VO equivalent, if any?


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backing up/exporting On My Mac folders in Mail

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

 

I would like to do a clean install of Snow Leopard when it comes.  Mostly
this isn't a huge deal, because since I've just moved my stuff over to my
mac recently, I already have backups on my portable drive.  The one
exception to this is the folders I've created in mail.  Is there some way
that I can create a copy of these that I can restore after I've installed
Snow Leopard?

Thanks,

Donna


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Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Anouk,

At the moment, your best bet is the Item Chooser, which you reach with  
VO-I. I hope searching web pages works better-with Snow Leopard. Has  
anyone tried it yet? I won't get my copy until sometime next week,  
unfortunately, or I'd try it.

Best,
Anna


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