Re: osx version question

[E.T.]

   I don't know about Bootcamp but Windows 7 runs just fine as a VM 
under macOS High Sierra.


   Actually, you can according to this Apple support article.



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On 1/10/2018 8:36 PM, The wolf wrote:
Hello I was doing some more googling and found out that windows7 isn't 
supported on the latest version of osx do to of the new file system 
container what version of osx is the last one that will support windows7?


I may just downgrade if possible

thanks

Hank



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osx version question

[The wolf]

Hello I was doing some more googling and found out that windows7 isn't 
supported on the latest version of osx do to of the new file system 
container what version of osx is the last one that will support windows7?


I may just downgrade if possible

thanks

Hank

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RE: Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

[Debbie April Yuille]

Thanks ET>

Debbie

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Debbie,
Interact then start selecting with the first item by pressing
command- control-option-return. Use VO and up or down arrow as needed to select 
other items and press the same key combination.

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On 1/10/2018 3:22 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> How does one go about selecting files non contiguously with Voice Over 
> in  Mac OS High Sierra. I’ve googled the steps but they say to hold 
> down the command key and when I do that and press the down arrow the 
> file executes rather an selects.
> 
> Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> Debbie
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RE: Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

[Debbie April Yuille]

Thanks for that. It worked.

 

Debbie

 

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Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 12:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

 

command option control return turns on non-contiguous selection mode. And then 
each additional press on an item in the list causes that item to be toggled.

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Jan 10, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Debbie April Yuille  > wrote:

 

Hi All

 

How does one go about selecting files non contiguously with Voice Over in  Mac 
OS High Sierra. I’ve googled the steps but they say to hold down the command 
key and when I do that and press the down arrow the file executes rather an 
selects.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

Debbie

 

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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.

My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I have found 
several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8
 


Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests a roll 
back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but meet a 
graphical challenge.

Let us know if you crack it.

Gena

“Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. The 
real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”

Michael Hinson 2011

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device manager to 
> see the driver status.
> 
> What the ….. is going on?
> 
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Call: M0EBP
> Loc: IO83PS
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janina,
>> 
>> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp partition 
>> for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB headset that I 
>> used to install Windows. It made the new hardware sound through the headset 
>> and NVDA announced installing software for the new device. So I have lost 
>> sound via it’s own speakers and have sound through an independent sound 
>> card. So you were right it’s a driver issue.
>> 
>> Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janina,
>>> 
>>> I think the blind keystrokes might be:
>>> 
>>> Open the run dialog box:
>>> cmd r, i.e. Windows r.
>>> 
>>> If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it is 
>>> likely to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped package 
>>> so you’ll need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of things. Going 
>>> by the article your run command should be:
>>> e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext
>>> 
>>> Windows will want you to allow changes so you need:
>>> opt Y i.e. alt y.
>>> 
>>> Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you might 
>>> need to:
>>> opt c i.e. alt c.
>>> 
>>> You might need to do a:
>>> opt f i.e alt f.
>>> 
>>> To finish.
>>> 
>>> Then a opt y i.e. alt y.
>>> 
>>> Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you 
>>> security to see what happens.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> “Why not?”
>>> 
>>> Michael Hinson 2011
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello Janina,
 
 Good to hear from you too.
 
 Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp 
 drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. 
 There must be a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that 
 is the sate of the machine like installs with Narrator support a USB 
 headset would provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own 
 sound card for the installation?
 
 Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from 
 the run dialog.
 
 See here:
 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 
 
 
 
 
 Gena
 
 Call: M0EBP
 Loc: IO83PS
 
 
 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
> installed, get them installed.
> 
> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
> way to know.
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, 
>> but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp 
>> drivers are installed once the OS has been installed.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janina,
>>> 
>>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and 
>>> blamed 

Re: Finding current page url

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, command-L will set focus on the navigation bar with the address
selected.  The only problem with this is that it is a bit difficult then to
jump back into the web page.

You could use vo-shift-[5 to save your spot and then use vo-5 to jump back.
For that matter if you set a hotspot on the address bar, you might be able
to use vo-command-hotspot to read the hotspot without jumping to it.
VoiceOver Hotspots though are not predictable in terms of when they will
get obsoleted. And in fact the number one way I can get Safari to go into
busy mode is set a hotspot in the middle of a web page and then move to a
different page and try to get to the hotspot.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


On 10 January 2018 at 14:38, dan d.  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I know when on a link vo+shift+u will read the url of that link.
>
> When on a page already, is there a key command to announce the url of the
> current page?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

Well sound has died via my headset too. I didn’t get to the device manager to 
see the driver status.

What the ….. is going on?



Gena

Call: M0EBP
Loc: IO83PS



> On 10 Jan 2018, at 20:50, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp partition 
> for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB headset that I 
> used to install Windows. It made the new hardware sound through the headset 
> and NVDA announced installing software for the new device. So I have lost 
> sound via it’s own speakers and have sound through an independent sound card. 
> So you were right it’s a driver issue.
> 
> Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janina,
>> 
>> I think the blind keystrokes might be:
>> 
>> Open the run dialog box:
>> cmd r, i.e. Windows r.
>> 
>> If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it is 
>> likely to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped package so 
>> you’ll need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of things. Going by 
>> the article your run command should be:
>> e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext
>> 
>> Windows will want you to allow changes so you need:
>> opt Y i.e. alt y.
>> 
>> Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you might 
>> need to:
>> opt c i.e. alt c.
>> 
>> You might need to do a:
>> opt f i.e alt f.
>> 
>> To finish.
>> 
>> Then a opt y i.e. alt y.
>> 
>> Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you security 
>> to see what happens.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Gena
>> 
>> “Why not?”
>> 
>> Michael Hinson 2011
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janina,
>>> 
>>> Good to hear from you too.
>>> 
>>> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp 
>>> drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. 
>>> There must be a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that 
>>> is the sate of the machine like installs with Narrator support a USB 
>>> headset would provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own 
>>> sound card for the installation?
>>> 
>>> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from the 
>>> run dialog.
>>> 
>>> See here:
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Call: M0EBP
>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 > 
 wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
 installed, get them installed.
 
 All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
 Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
 way to know.
 
 Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, 
> but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp 
> drivers are installed once the OS has been installed.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janina,
>> 
>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and 
>> blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have 
>> removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played 
>> with it. So I hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m 
>> sure someone on the BCAB list also had problems too.
>> 
>> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
>> 
>> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it 
>> once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in 
>> the right place to enter such a command.
>> 
>> The command was:
>> 
>> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
>> 
>> From:
>> 
>> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> >  
>> >
>> 
>> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 

Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp partition for 
about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB headset that I used to 
install Windows. It made the new hardware sound through the headset and NVDA 
announced installing software for the new device. So I have lost sound via it’s 
own speakers and have sound through an independent sound card. So you were 
right it’s a driver issue.

Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use?

Regards,


Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!





> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> I think the blind keystrokes might be:
> 
> Open the run dialog box:
> cmd r, i.e. Windows r.
> 
> If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it is likely 
> to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped package so you’ll 
> need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of things. Going by the 
> article your run command should be:
> e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext
> 
> Windows will want you to allow changes so you need:
> opt Y i.e. alt y.
> 
> Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you might need 
> to:
> opt c i.e. alt c.
> 
> You might need to do a:
> opt f i.e alt f.
> 
> To finish.
> 
> Then a opt y i.e. alt y.
> 
> Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you security 
> to see what happens.
> 
> HTH
> Gena
> 
> “Why not?”
> 
> Michael Hinson 2011
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janina,
>> 
>> Good to hear from you too.
>> 
>> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp 
>> drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. 
>> There must be a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that 
>> is the sate of the machine like installs with Narrator support a USB headset 
>> would provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own sound card 
>> for the installation?
>> 
>> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from the 
>> run dialog.
>> 
>> See here:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Call: M0EBP
>> Loc: IO83PS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
>>> installed, get them installed.
>>> 
>>> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
>>> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
>>> way to know.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
 Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, 
 but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp 
 drivers are installed once the OS has been installed.
 
Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and 
> blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have 
> removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played 
> with it. So I hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure 
> someone on the BCAB list also had problems too.
> 
> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
> 
> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it 
> once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in 
> the right place to enter such a command.
> 
> The command was:
> 
> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
> 
> From:
> 
> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
>  
> 
>  
>   
> >
> 
> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> > >  >> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor 

Finding current page url

[dan d.]

Hello,

I know when on a link vo+shift+u will read the url of that link.

When on a page already, is there a key command to announce the url of the 
current page?

Thanks.
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Re: Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[The wolf]

Hello I payed 200.00 for the mac that I have now

is there any perticular mac that I should try to look for in that price 
range?

Hank

On 1/9/2018 10:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I don't know on either of your questions--sorry. I guess Google needs to
be your friend on these issues.

I do have a thought ...

You might want to consider a newer Mac, just not a new one. Price should
be much less. You could look at the Macs that support running Win 10 and
look for refurbished, or owner sold models on that list.

If possible, I'd try to stay above the models that support installing
directly from an iso image on the Mac drive, as opposed to requiring you
to create a bootable USB stick. That's got to be much much faster. My
Airbook is too old for that.

There might be two benefits to a used Mac that you would lose with a new
Mac:

1.) Physical function keys, instead of the touchbar. Your choice on
whether that matters to you.

2.) The audible chime on boot has apparently disappeared on newer
Macs. If you're dual booting, working without the chime could be really 
frustrating, imo.


For my money the above two considerations make a slightly used Airbook a
smarter buy, assuming it's in good condition and its former owner wasn't
a smoker.

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything

a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't
support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?

also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good
places to get ram for the older macbooks?
it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs
for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
Go figure.


Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
refused to cooperate with that.

The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
unformatted wasn't acceptable.

diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
BootCamp.

Good luck!

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello will give this a look at

I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
shouldn't be doing this.
thanks
Hank

On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.

Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.

If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
from a Linux shell.

The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
far more than the graphical Disk Utility.

The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
Here's a good web page to get you started:

https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/


Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
under the BootCamp hood

http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/

hth

Janina

The wolf writes:

Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button

please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am trying
to refresh my memory.

thanks

Hank



On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
Or is this not working.
Then something seems broken.
/A


9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :

Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or later 
addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012

it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7

it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be upgrading the 
ram soon\

when ever I try 

Re: alarms with calendar or alternative app?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Jonathan,
Thanks.
That helped.
I didn't think to hit command I for info! :)
Talk soon
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’



On Jan 5, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> I use calendar in the following way  to create items:
> 
> 1. type command-N to create a new item.
> 2. This brings up a smart insert fields.
> 3. Type something like Leave at 5:30pm  and then hit enter
> 4. type command-i and use VoiceOver to review the calendar entry.  
> 
> There is a button to do recurrences and it can be a little confusing for more 
> complex ones, but at least give that a try. 
> 
> Now reviewing items in your calendar is much easier done on the iPhone. 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
> 
> On 5 January 2018 at 12:41, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> Hi List,
> Looking for a way to utilize these steps on my mac book air for calendar or a 
> more VO friendly application to accomplish these steps below:
> My Mac book air experience using the calendar app was very convoluted trying 
> to execute these steps;
> Any recommendations?
> begin  blurb;
> 
> How to Set an Alarm on MacBook
> By Avery Martin
>   While the App Store provides several options for installing an 
> alarm clock on your Mac, you don't need to look any further than the Calendar 
> app already installed with OS X Mavericks. Set alarms for birthdays, to wake 
> up after a nap, remind you about important meetings or set up a one-time 
> alarm for special occasions. The Calendar app even allows you to use a snooze 
> feature to repeat the alarm after a delay of 15 minutes. Using the Calendar 
> app also allows you to get alerts on your other devices, if you set up iCloud 
> on your MacBook and other iOS devices.
> 
> Set your Calendar alarm to go off on all of your devices.
> credit: scanrail/iStock/Getty Images
> 
> 
> Set a One-Time Alert
> Step 1
> Click the Calendar icon located in the Dock. If the Calendar icon doesn't 
> display in the Dock, click the "Go" menu, select "Applications" and 
> double-click "Calendar."
> Step 2
> Double-click the date that you want to use for the alarm. Type a name for the 
> alarm in the "New Event" text area.
> Step 3
> Select the date and choose the time that you want the alarm to go off in the 
> "From:" field. You don't need to change the information in the "To:" field.
> Step 4
> Choose the "Alert:" drop-down menu and select "Custom."
> 
> Step 5
> Select the "Message With Sound" option from the first drop-down menu.
> Step 6
> Choose a sound from the list of options in the second drop-down menu. 
> Alternatively, select "Open File" and choose an audio file on your hard drive 
> to play when the alarm goes off.
> Step 7
> Select "At the Time of Event" from the last drop-down menu and click "OK." 
> You can also select the "Minutes Before" option and enter a numerical value 
> to have the alarm go off before the set event time.
> Set Events and Birthday Alerts
> Step 1
> Launch the Calendar app, select the "Calendar" menu and click 
> "Preferences..." from the drop-down menu.
> 
> Step 2
> Click the "Alerts" tab.
> Step3
> Select the "Events" drop-down menu and choose "At Time of Event." You can 
> also choose another option, if you want the alarm to go off before the event.
> Step 4
> Select the "All Day Events:" drop-down menu, followed by the "Birthdays:" 
> drop-down menu and select when you want the alarm to go off for both 
> settings. You can select an option to set off the alarm on the day of the 
> event, the day before, two days before or a week before.
> Step 5
> Uncheck the "Use These Default Alerts On Only This Computer" if you don't 
> want the alerts to sync with your other iCloud connected devices.
> 
> RELATED ARTICLES
> 
> How to Create a Calendar in OneNote
> 
> How to Make a MacBook Invisible to Other MacBooks
> 
> How to Make a Monthly Calendar with Recurring Events in Excel
> 
> How to Hear Sound on an iPad
> 
> How to Sync an IPhone with Calendar on a Mac
> 
> How to Create Lesson Plans Using iCal
> 
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
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Re: Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

[E.T.]

Debbie,
   Interact then start selecting with the first item by pressing 
command- control-option-return. Use VO and up or down arrow as needed to 
select other items and press the same key combination.


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On 1/10/2018 3:22 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:

Hi All

How does one go about selecting files non contiguously with Voice Over 
in  Mac OS High Sierra. I’ve googled the steps but they say to hold down 
the command key and when I do that and press the down arrow the file 
executes rather an selects.


Any help is much appreciated.

Debbie

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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

I think the blind keystrokes might be:

Open the run dialog box:
cmd r, i.e. Windows r.

If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it is likely 
to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped package so you’ll 
need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of things. Going by the article 
your run command should be:
e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext

Windows will want you to allow changes so you need:
opt Y i.e. alt y.

Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you might need 
to:
opt c i.e. alt c.

You might need to do a:
opt f i.e alt f.

To finish.

Then a opt y i.e. alt y.

Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you security to 
see what happens.

HTH
Gena

“Why not?”

Michael Hinson 2011

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Good to hear from you too.
> 
> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp drivers. 
> You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. There must 
> be a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that is the sate 
> of the machine like installs with Narrator support a USB headset would 
> provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own sound card for the 
> installation?
> 
> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from the 
> run dialog.
> 
> See here:
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Call: M0EBP
> Loc: IO83PS
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
>> installed, get them installed.
>> 
>> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
>> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
>> way to know.
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, 
>>> but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp 
>>> drivers are installed once the OS has been installed.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello Janina,
 
 Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and 
 blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have 
 removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played 
 with it. So I hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure 
 someone on the BCAB list also had problems too.
 
 OK, so have you tried Narrator?
 
 I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it 
 once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in 
 the right place to enter such a command.
 
 The command was:
 
 nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
 
 From:
 
 https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
  
 
  
 >
 
 Good luck and let us know how you get on.
 
 Gena
 
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 
 
 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>    >> wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
> Windows 10 from within VMware.
> 
> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
> work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
> brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
> 
> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
> have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
> unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
> Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
> was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
> 
> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
> install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. 

Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

Good to hear from you too.

Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp drivers. 
You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. There must be 
a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that is the sate of the 
machine like installs with Narrator support a USB headset would provide audio. 
Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own sound card for the installation?

Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from the run 
dialog.

See here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 




Gena

Call: M0EBP
Loc: IO83PS



> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
> installed, get them installed.
> 
> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
> way to know.
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, but 
>> I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp drivers 
>> are installed once the OS has been installed.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janina,
>>> 
>>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and blamed 
>>> it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have removed and 
>>> reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played with it. So I 
>>> hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the 
>>> BCAB list also had problems too.
>>> 
>>> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
>>> 
>>> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it 
>>> once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in 
>>> the right place to enter such a command.
>>> 
>>> The command was:
>>> 
>>> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
>>> 
>>> From:
>>> 
>>> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> >>  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Georgina Joyce
>>> Applied Psychologist
>>> Training and Coaching.
>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 >> wrote:
 
 I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
 Windows 10 from within VMware.
 
 I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
 work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
 brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
 
 What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
 have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
 unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
 Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
 I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
 was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
 
 So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
 install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I
 wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might
 be using different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
 
 All help much appreciated.
 
 Janina
 
 
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 Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:  http://a11y.org 
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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Jonathan:

I suspect you mean Crucial? And not Crucible?


I believe it's just http://crucial.com

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Crucible.com  is the standard goto to determine wRAM 
> upgrades for Mac computers. I believe they have an application to download 
> that checks your memory and knows what slots are available on what computer.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:59 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> > 
> > how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> > 
> > a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't 
> > support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> > 
> > also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good 
> > places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> > it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 
> > gigs for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> > thanks
> > Hank
> > 
> > On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >> I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
> >> very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
> >> installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
> >> Go figure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
> >> using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
> >> and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
> >> so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
> >> refused to cooperate with that.
> >> 
> >> The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
> >> launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
> >> the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
> >> unformatted wasn't acceptable.
> >> 
> >> diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
> >> the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
> >> You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
> >> BootCamp.
> >> 
> >> Good luck!
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> The wolf writes:
> >>> Hello will give this a look at
> >>> 
> >>> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
> >>> is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
> >>> shouldn't be doing this.
> >>> thanks
> >>> Hank
> >>> 
> >>> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>  First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
>  where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
>  
>  Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
>  line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
>  
>  If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
>  from a Linux shell.
>  
>  The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
>  far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
>  
>  The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
>  Here's a good web page to get you started:
>  
>  https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
>  
>  
>  Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
>  but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
>  Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
>  you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
>  under the BootCamp hood
>  
>  http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
>  
>  hth
>  
>  Janina
>  
>  The wolf writes:
> > Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair 
> > button
> > 
> > please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> > trying
> > to refresh my memory.
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Hank
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
> >> You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
> >> Or is this not working.
> >> Then something seems broken.
> >> /A
> >> 
> >>> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
> >>> 
> >>> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or 
> >>> later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
> >>> 
> >>> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
> >>> 
> >>> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
> >>> upgrading the ram soon\
> >>> 
> >>> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it 
> >>> gives me no 

Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already
installed, get them installed.

All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process.
Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no
way to know.

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, but 
> I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp drivers 
> are installed once the OS has been installed.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Janina,
> > 
> > Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and blamed 
> > it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have removed and 
> > reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played with it. So I 
> > hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the 
> > BCAB list also had problems too.
> > 
> > OK, so have you tried Narrator?
> > 
> > I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it 
> > once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in 
> > the right place to enter such a command.
> > 
> > The command was:
> > 
> > nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
> > 
> > From:
> > 
> > https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck and let us know how you get on.
> > 
> > Gena
> > 
> > Georgina Joyce
> > Applied Psychologist
> > Training and Coaching.
> > Because individuals of groups matter!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >> > 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
> >> Windows 10 from within VMware.
> >> 
> >> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
> >> work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
> >> brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
> >> 
> >> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
> >> have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
> >> unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
> >> Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
> >> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
> >> was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
> >> 
> >> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
> >> install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I
> >> wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might
> >> be using different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
> >> 
> >> All help much appreciated.
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Gena:

Good to hear from you.

I'm pretty confident my problem is driver related for several reasons.

One is that I ended up using sighted assistance to finish the Windows
installation. It started out as the simple question: "Is anything on my
screen?" Well, what was there was th continuing Windows installation,
and Narrator wasn't responding.

We went ahead and finished, then looked at volume settings. It's
definitely not muted, and Narrator volume was at 50%. Also, running the
speech test showed graphic activity on screen, i.e. Windows annimates
the speech so that one can see that it's trying to talk, should you not
be hearing the speech.

I'm still not clear why it started talking. It talked through a couple
boots, but then died quite suddenly while reading the login screen.


OI went ahead an upgraded my VMware to 10.1.1, but I declined to pay
until I can be assured this is actually going to work. I'm not seeing
where I can access my BootCamp Windows from the 30-day trial VMware.

So, I guess I'm waiting for another shot at sighted assistance. I
definitely don't want to try reinstalling. That's been farr more miss
than hit, and it's taken far, far too much of my time in the past month.

Thanks for your good suggestions. They're certainly the things one
should try, and I especially appreciate that command.

Janina

Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and blamed 
> it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have removed and 
> reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played with it. So I 
> hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the 
> BCAB list also had problems too.
> 
> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
> 
> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it once 
> and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in the right 
> place to enter such a command.
> 
> The command was:
> 
> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
> 
> From:
> 
> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
>  
> 
> 
> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
> > Windows 10 from within VMware.
> > 
> > I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
> > work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
> > brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
> > 
> > What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
> > have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
> > unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
> > Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
> > I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
> > was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
> > 
> > So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
> > install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I
> > wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might
> > be using different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
> > 
> > All help much appreciated.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Janina Sajka
> > 
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org
> > 
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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Jonathan Cohn]

Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, but I 
understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp drivers are 
installed once the OS has been installed.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janina,
> 
> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and blamed 
> it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have removed and 
> reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played with it. So I 
> hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the 
> BCAB list also had problems too.
> 
> OK, so have you tried Narrator?
> 
> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it once 
> and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in the right 
> place to enter such a command.
> 
> The command was:
> 
> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0
> 
> From:
> 
> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
>  
> 
> 
> Good luck and let us know how you get on.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
>> Windows 10 from within VMware.
>> 
>> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
>> work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
>> brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
>> 
>> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
>> have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
>> unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
>> Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
>> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
>> was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
>> 
>> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
>> install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I
>> wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might
>> be using different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
>> 
>> All help much appreciated.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Janina Sajka
>> 
>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org 
>> 
>> 
>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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Re: Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

[Jonathan Cohn]

command option control return turns on non-contiguous selection mode. And then 
each additional press on an item in the list causes that item to be toggled.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 10, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Debbie April Yuille 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
>  
> How does one go about selecting files non contiguously with Voice Over in  
> Mac OS High Sierra. I’ve googled the steps but they say to hold down the 
> command key and when I do that and press the down arrow the file executes 
> rather an selects.
>  
> Any help is much appreciated.
> Debbie
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Re: bootcamp error messages on latest osx?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Crucible.com  is the standard goto to determine wRAM 
upgrades for Mac computers. I believe they have an application to download that 
checks your memory and knows what slots are available on what computer.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:59 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> how anoying I will give this command and see if that fixes evertything
> 
> a quick question once I got windows7 loaded even though the mac doesn't 
> support windows10 is there a way or hack to get it to run?
> 
> also am not sure if u can help but would you happen to know if any good 
> places to get ram for the older macbooks?
> it has 2 gigs it is seriously slow and want to at least upgrade it to 4 gigs 
> for now and then when I get more money saved up go to 8 gigs
> thanks
> Hank
> 
> On 1/9/2018 9:50 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I can tell you I've spent the last month struggling with BootCamp. It's
>> very fussy, but also brittle, in my experience, i.e. the Windows
>> installation process will frequently break, but then eventually succeed.
>> Go figure.
>> 
>> 
>> Relevant to your situation I can attest that BootCamp is fussy about
>> using the tail end of your OS X container. I actually tried to get fancy
>> and put in a Win partition mid disk, then assign the remainder for ExFAT
>> so that it could contain files to share with both OS. Well, BootCamp
>> refused to cooperate with that.
>> 
>> The only situation that successfully created the BootCamp partitionand
>> launched the Windows install was having the entire disk, all the way to
>> the edge, assigned to OS X. Even free space, uunpartitioned and
>> unformatted wasn't acceptable.
>> 
>> diskutil from the command line is your friend on this task, imo. Note in
>> the page I pointed you to that a size of 0 means "fill the whole disk."
>> You want to see the entire container assigned to the Mac before running
>> BootCamp.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> The wolf writes:
>>> Hello will give this a look at
>>> 
>>> I wish it would tell me what the error is so I can try to google it
>>> is this a known issue? I have'nt touched any of the mac partitions so it
>>> shouldn't be doing this.
>>> thanks
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> On 1/9/2018 8:51 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 First Aid should be in the Toolbar of Disk Utility. At least that's
 where it is on my 2014 vintage Airbook running High Sierra.
 
 Note there are even more options available from the Terminal command
 line, though with far less Voice Over functionality.
 
 If possible ssh in for better screen reader support. I ssh to my Mac
 from a Linux shell.
 
 The reason is to run diskutil, which is a command line tool that does
 far more than the graphical Disk Utility.
 
 The man page for diskutil is essential, but a challenge to comprehend.
 Here's a good web page to get you started:
 
 https://www.MacObserver.com/tips/deep-dive/resize-your-apfs-container/
 
 
 Note also that it's possible to install Windows without using BootCamp,
 but it's not an accessible process. You'll need sighted assistance.
 Here's a page on that process which should be the same, even though
 you're not installing Win 10. It also helps explain what's going on
 under the BootCamp hood
 
 http://fgimian.github.io/blog/2016/03/12/installing-windows-10-on-a-mac-without-bootcamp/
 
 hth
 
 Janina
 
 The wolf writes:
> Hello yes I have it and when I selected it I couldn't find a repair button
> 
> please bare with me I haven't used a mac in about 3 to 4 years so am 
> trying
> to refresh my memory.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/9/2018 4:18 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Isn’t there a first aid in disk utility?
>> You have to select the disk first and then find the first aid button.
>> Or is this not working.
>> Then something seems broken.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 9 jan. 2018 kl. 23:00 skrev The wolf :
>>> 
>>> Hello I am back in the mac world I got a macbook that is a 2009 or 
>>> later addission the mac was orriginally purchased in 2012
>>> 
>>> it will not support windows10 but it will support windows7
>>> 
>>> it has 2 gigs of ram it will be slow running windows but will be 
>>> upgrading the ram soon\
>>> 
>>> when ever I try to partition boot camp it says partition error it gives 
>>> me no info on what the error message it it says to try running disk 
>>> repair there is no disk repair choice in disk utility
>>> 
>>> I looked both at disk utility when booted in to osx and I also tried 
>>> looking in disk utility under recovery no repair choice
>>> 
>>> I am running the latest osx high sierra can any one help me out here? I 
>>> wish 

Selecting Non-contiguous Items in Mack OS High Sierra

[Debbie April Yuille]

Hi All

 

How does one go about selecting files non contiguously with Voice Over in
Mac OS High Sierra. I've googled the steps but they say to hold down the
command key and when I do that and press the down arrow the file executes
rather an selects.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

Debbie

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Re: VMware Fusion 10.1.1 and BootCamp

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Janina,

Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and blamed it 
on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have removed and 
reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really played with it. So I hope 
I don’t experience the muting of sound again. I’m sure someone on the BCAB list 
also had problems too.

OK, so have you tried Narrator?

I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it once 
and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t in the right 
place to enter such a command.

The command was:

nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0

From:

https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line
 


Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!





> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of
> Windows 10 from within VMware.
> 
> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to
> work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a
> brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back.
> 
> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should
> have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been
> unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from
> Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there.
> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as I
> was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick.
> 
> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp
> install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I
> wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it might
> be using different drivers at that level. Anyone know?
> 
> All help much appreciated.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures  http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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