Re: Accuracy of the power meter?
Hi, On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 23:25 -0400, ext Mike Lococo wrote: > > I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised "10 days > > idle" battery life on my N800. With bluetooth and the wireless turned > > off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen > > locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery > > is completely drained. > > That's definitely weird. I don't get 10 days between charges, but then > my N800 is never idle for 10 days at a time. I commonly run 3 days > between charges, though, and I'm a fairly active user. Yes, apparently it's somehow problematic to convey the difference between "idle" and "almost idle". To give a rough idea, the power used by the device while being running can be _at_least_ 10 times higher, with peaks in the order of a couple of hundred times. So it's very hard if possible at all to define what is your expected runtime apart from few selected use cases that are using for marketing the device and that we refer to when measuring the power performance. Of course our use-cases are tailored to cover most of the common uses, but it's easy for a power user to come up with some combinatioin of software/use that doesn't allow for proper power saving. > > I have two theories why at this point. The first is that the battery > > has gone south, even though it I've only had the N800 for about a month > > or os. I have seen it happening somehow only to 3 years old batteries from the early 770 era. But that's only my personal experience. > The second is that I'm running off a 2gig flash card as my root > > filesystem instead of the internal flash, per the instructions given in > > the Maemo wiki. > > I don't do this. If you don't get a more helpful response, I would run > with a stock fs and no applications installed for a day (no fun, but an > important troubleshooting step if you're not sure where the problem > lies). MMC / SD shouldn't be an issue. Actually the throughput could/should be higher because jffs2 does dynamic compression/decompression while the SD doesn't. Of course there could be a bug in the driver, but history has usually shown that it's some application/service/daemon that is run too often or that does busy loop or similar nasty things. > If you still have low standby life in offline/screenlocked mode > then you definitely have hardware issues. If not, then you can start > introducing variables in a controlled way until you pin down the rogue > config/app that's killing your battery life. Please report back so > others can learn as well. Yes, that's the only certain way. My advice is to start removing first those apps that are likely to introduce periodic activity. -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Accuracy of the power meter?
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:56:44PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised "10 days > idle" battery life on my N800. With bluetooth and the wireless turned > off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen > locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery > is completely drained. One possibility is if you use R&D mode or some other [non-default] options changed with flasher application. In this case power management would not be able to deliver the promised time. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
How to change the built-in IM client behavior?
Hi list, I have been wondering if there is any easy way to change some of the behaviors in the N800 built-in IM client. For example, I would like to have the IM window popping up instead of the icon flashing in the left panel. I would really appreciate any pointers. Thank you. Yanni ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Accuracy of the power meter?
> I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised "10 days > idle" battery life on my N800. With bluetooth and the wireless turned > off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen > locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery > is completely drained. That's definitely weird. I don't get 10 days between charges, but then my N800 is never idle for 10 days at a time. I commonly run 3 days between charges, though, and I'm a fairly active user. > I have two theories why at this point. The first is that the battery > has gone south, even though it I've only had the N800 for about a month > or os. The second is that I'm running off a 2gig flash card as my root > filesystem instead of the internal flash, per the instructions given in > the Maemo wiki. I don't do this. If you don't get a more helpful response, I would run with a stock fs and no applications installed for a day (no fun, but an important troubleshooting step if you're not sure where the problem lies). If you still have low standby life in offline/screenlocked mode then you definitely have hardware issues. If not, then you can start introducing variables in a controlled way until you pin down the rogue config/app that's killing your battery life. Please report back so others can learn as well. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Accuracy of the power meter?
I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised "10 days idle" battery life on my N800. With bluetooth and the wireless turned off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery is completely drained. I have two theories why at this point. The first is that the battery has gone south, even though it I've only had the N800 for about a month or os. The second is that I'm running off a 2gig flash card as my root filesystem instead of the internal flash, per the instructions given in the Maemo wiki. That's a distinct possibility, although I don't see how the flash card could be pulling so much current when the system is an idle state. Has anyone seen anything like this or any thoughts about why I might be seeing this? Thanks, - Ted ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.
This thread just made me realize, the N800/770 could be ideal devices for stereoscopic viewing. The high resolution and wide aspect ratio let you fit a lot of pixels on either side. Google for 'stereoscopic' and you can find 3-D photos. Visit them in full-screen mode (turn off the toolbar), take something like an index card and stand it up on the screen, bring your nose down to the card and you can see pretty decent depth. Here's an image: http://rozzo.tripod.com/images/3d-la-sciara-filicudi.jpg I suspect someone with more time on their hands could build a holder and maybe some lenses to do it properly... Allan On May 7, 2007, at 17:34, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On 5/7/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hendrik: Maybe a harmonica holder with an extra little bend in the >> arms to get the right angle might work out for you: > > ... or clamp the stand of the N800 in there ... would probably work > out with no modifications necessary and be adjustable to suit > different ideal focal lengths. > > /Mike > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Allan Doyle http://museum.mit.edu/mwow +1.781.433.2695 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.
On 5/7/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hendrik: Maybe a harmonica holder with an extra little bend in the > arms to get the right angle might work out for you: ... or clamp the stand of the N800 in there ... would probably work out with no modifications necessary and be adjustable to suit different ideal focal lengths. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia N800 or N770 and very bad eyesight.
On 5/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And more importantly for the context of this list, share any specific > problems you find at a maemo/software level for users with eyesight > problems. I know that the small text of the tablet is an issue with people even mildly farsighted as is typical as people age. I have encountered many people who have commented specifically on that and how it would make it impractical to use one. I think a large font / high contrast theme might open up a large market segment for Nokia. Right now the tablet would be awkward for aging boomers. hendrik: Maybe a harmonica holder with an extra little bend in the arms to get the right angle might work out for you: http://www.eaglemusicshop.com/harmonicas/accessories/index.asp?CatID=22&SubCatID=29 Just a thought. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Logitech bluetooth keyboards
The mx5000 works well for me. Mark On 4/30/07, Thomas Armagost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Logitech MX 5000 and diNovo Bluetooth 2.0 keyboards both have HID. > Do they work with a Nokia n800? > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/US/EN,crid=2155 > > They're bulky. But I could use one in a hotel room at night--and > leave it there during the day, using the stylus keyboard while out > and about. > > Tallyho, > Thomas Armagost > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > http://armagost.blogspot.com > Willie Nelson's tour bus is powered by hemp > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 gpsbabel supporting the WBT-201
Brad, Am Sonntag, 6. Mai 2007 09:44 schrieb Brad Midgley: > bluetooth. All the lights go out on the gps when it's busy but that seems > to be normal. The WBT-100 is completely different protocol (although similar name), I am not aware of a problem there. > It shouldn't be too tough to put hooks into maemo mapper to give it a menu > option to suspend the bt gps connection, execute gpsbabel, and load those > tracks into the map. That would be really slick. ...or a "from device" option in the load gpx file dialog. Thanks, Rainer > > On 5/5/07, Jonathan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rainer, > > > > I've had no problems with bluetooth, either from my Ubuntu AMD64-X2 > > with an MSI StarKey dongle, or from the N800. > > > > -jonathan -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07032-359190 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users