Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
Hello And why not ot push 'unetbootin' tool to the repo and provide a step-by-step how-to how to create a bootable flash using it? btw, you are right - to make a flash bootable - you finally need to set bootable flag using fdisk/cfdisk/similar-tools wbr, Sergey 2011/4/28 David Sjölin : > Hello! > > I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange > problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do that? > I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk or > something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it could be > on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). And a comment > on how to find the device for the USB. > > Other than that this looks like a good design. > > Regards, > > David >
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > So, > > I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the site, > but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her netbook didn't > have cdrom. > > I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: > > Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to handle > the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or usb-stick-ify it) > > WDYT? It's always good to have this kind of documentation, that we can provide on the download page for after use. Related docs: * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Draklive#Building_a_live_CD_or_live_USB * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux#Installation_from_a_USB_stick * maybe others I didn't find about this, but no equivalent doc on our side for now (in Wiki or website). So someone to write an article about this is welcome. Romain
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
2011/4/29 Tux99 : > Quote: You-Cheng Hsieh wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 03:59 >> As Anne already pointed, Mandriva seed does not work on Windows Vista >> and 7. >> https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=55471 >> >> Either we could fix it, or find another way for Windows 7 and Vista >> users. > > Fair enough, but XP is still the most used Windows version used by roughly > half of all Windows users [1], so mandriva-seed is still useful for a lot > of people. > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems Depend on how you look at it, I can also say mandriva-seed is useful for only half portion of people, and the numbers are decreasing. Mandriva seed could be considered as last solution on this issue, while we should manage to find a way that work better at the mean time. Thanks, You-Cheng Hsieh
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
Quote: You-Cheng Hsieh wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 03:59 > 2011/4/29 Tux99 : > > There is an easy to follow step by step user-contributed tutorial > > on how to use mandriva-seed in Windows on my website. > > It was written for Mandriva 2009.1 but I guess it should be > > usable for Mageia too. > > See here (in the right-hand column): > > > > http://www.linuxtech.net/news/mandriva_linux_2009.1_spring_is_out.html > > -- > > Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/ > > > As Anne already pointed, Mandriva seed does not work on Windows Vista > and 7. > https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=55471 > > Either we could fix it, or find another way for Windows 7 and Vista > users. Fair enough, but XP is still the most used Windows version used by roughly half of all Windows users [1], so mandriva-seed is still useful for a lot of people. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems -- Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
2011/4/29 Tux99 : > There is an easy to follow step by step user-contributed tutorial on how to > use mandriva-seed in Windows on my website. > It was written for Mandriva 2009.1 but I guess it should be usable for > Mageia too. > See here (in the right-hand column): > http://www.linuxtech.net/news/mandriva_linux_2009.1_spring_is_out.html > -- > Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/ > As Anne already pointed, Mandriva seed does not work on Windows Vista and 7. https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=55471 Either we could fix it, or find another way for Windows 7 and Vista users.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
There is an easy to follow step by step user-contributed tutorial on how to use mandriva-seed in Windows on my website. It was written for Mandriva 2009.1 but I guess it should be usable for Mageia too. See here (in the right-hand column): http://www.linuxtech.net/news/mandriva_linux_2009.1_spring_is_out.html -- Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:59:20 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2011/4/28 David Sjölin : > > Hello! > > > > I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange > > problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do > > that? I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk > > or something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it > > could be on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). > > And a comment on how to find the device for the USB. > > No, it's only a few steps with 'dd', and for those who love GUIs, I > just did a test: > mandriva-seed.sh also works on Mageia and with Mageia ISOs. Tested > with Beta2 / KDE and LXDE. > > So we should integrate a hint to mandriva-seed into the help. > The instructions at http://gnome3.org/tryit.html are pretty clear and could be used for a template.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
2011/4/28 Wolfgang Bornath : > 2011/4/28 David Sjölin : >> Hello! >> >> I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange >> problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do that? >> I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk or >> something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it could be >> on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). And a comment >> on how to find the device for the USB. > > No, it's only a few steps with 'dd', and for those who love GUIs, I > just did a test: > mandriva-seed.sh also works on Mageia and with Mageia ISOs. Tested > with Beta2 / KDE and LXDE. > > So we should integrate a hint to mandriva-seed into the help. On Linux why not but it does not work on Seven > > -- > wobo > -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
2011/4/28 David Sjölin : > Hello! > > I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange > problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do that? > I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk or > something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it could be > on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). And a comment > on how to find the device for the USB. No, it's only a few steps with 'dd', and for those who love GUIs, I just did a test: mandriva-seed.sh also works on Mageia and with Mageia ISOs. Tested with Beta2 / KDE and LXDE. So we should integrate a hint to mandriva-seed into the help. -- wobo
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Maarten Vanraes > > wrote: > > Op donderdag 28 april 2011 10:01:53 schreef Romain d'Alverny: > >> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> So, > >> >> > >> >> I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around > >> >> the site, but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since > >> >> her netbook didn't have cdrom. > >> >> > >> >> I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my > >> >> point: > >> >> > >> >> Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how > >> >> to handle the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or > >> >> usb-stick-ify it) > >> >> > >> >> WDYT? > >> > >> It's always good to have this kind of documentation, that we can > >> provide on the download page for after use. > >> > >> Related docs: > >> * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Draklive#Building_a_live_CD_or_live_USB > >> * > >> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux#Installation_ > >> fr om_a_USB_stick * maybe others I didn't find > >> > >> about this, but no equivalent doc on our side for now (in Wiki or > >> website). > >> > >> So someone to write an article about this is welcome. > >> > >> Note that Ubuntu does something quite nice as well about this (the > >> "show me how" thing): > >> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download > >> > >> Romain > > > > I would prefer to not link the download page to our temporary wiki, as it > > doesn't look that good imho. > > > > an extra translatable page on the website would sound good, i suppose: > > > > rough format: > > - > > What to do with this iso file? > > > > first, choose the right one for you. > > ==> explanation about 32bit/64bit > > ==> mention about dualboot > > ==> mention about live iso and how you can install that if you want > > ==> mention about the other isos and briefly what they mean > > > > option 1) burn it to CD/DVD with your favourite CD/DVD burner > > ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux > > ==> notice on size of iso and CD or DVD format, notion about RW also > > being ok ==> explanation of verifying md5sum > > > > option 2) how to put an iso on a stick? > > ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux > > ==> explanation of verifying md5sum > > > > option 3) virtualisation > > ==> briefly mention XEN/KVM/Vbox/VMWare > > ==> explanation of importance of verifying an md5sum > > > > > > something like this... Op donderdag 28 april 2011 11:37:53 schreef David Sjölin: > Hello! > > I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange > problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do that? > I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk or > something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it could be > on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). And a comment > on how to find the device for the USB. > > Other than that this looks like a good design. > > Regards, > > David > > please don't top post and of course it's a good design, it's based on: step 1: idea step 2: (to be filled in) step 3: profit! :-D
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
Hello! I remember that when I created a usb from ISO I had some strange problem making the USB bootable. Maybe some comment on how to do that? I don't remember how I did it then, but I assume using fdisk or something? Dismount the USB, fidks /dev/sdb1 (or whatever it could be on the users computer) and change the bootable flag (?). And a comment on how to find the device for the USB. Other than that this looks like a good design. Regards, David On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op donderdag 28 april 2011 10:01:53 schreef Romain d'Alverny: >> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes >> > >> > wrote: >> >> So, >> >> >> >> I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the >> >> site, but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her >> >> netbook didn't have cdrom. >> >> >> >> I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: >> >> >> >> Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to >> >> handle the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or >> >> usb-stick-ify it) >> >> >> >> WDYT? >> >> It's always good to have this kind of documentation, that we can >> provide on the download page for after use. >> >> Related docs: >> * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Draklive#Building_a_live_CD_or_live_USB >> * >> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux#Installation_fr >> om_a_USB_stick * maybe others I didn't find >> >> about this, but no equivalent doc on our side for now (in Wiki or website). >> >> So someone to write an article about this is welcome. >> >> Note that Ubuntu does something quite nice as well about this (the >> "show me how" thing): >> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download >> >> Romain > > I would prefer to not link the download page to our temporary wiki, as it > doesn't look that good imho. > > an extra translatable page on the website would sound good, i suppose: > > rough format: > - > What to do with this iso file? > > first, choose the right one for you. > ==> explanation about 32bit/64bit > ==> mention about dualboot > ==> mention about live iso and how you can install that if you want > ==> mention about the other isos and briefly what they mean > > option 1) burn it to CD/DVD with your favourite CD/DVD burner > ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux > ==> notice on size of iso and CD or DVD format, notion about RW also being ok > ==> explanation of verifying md5sum > > option 2) how to put an iso on a stick? > ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux > ==> explanation of verifying md5sum > > option 3) virtualisation > ==> briefly mention XEN/KVM/Vbox/VMWare > ==> explanation of importance of verifying an md5sum > > > something like this... >
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
Op donderdag 28 april 2011 10:01:53 schreef Romain d'Alverny: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes > > > > wrote: > >> So, > >> > >> I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the > >> site, but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her > >> netbook didn't have cdrom. > >> > >> I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: > >> > >> Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to > >> handle the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or > >> usb-stick-ify it) > >> > >> WDYT? > > It's always good to have this kind of documentation, that we can > provide on the download page for after use. > > Related docs: > * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Draklive#Building_a_live_CD_or_live_USB > * > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux#Installation_fr > om_a_USB_stick * maybe others I didn't find > > about this, but no equivalent doc on our side for now (in Wiki or website). > > So someone to write an article about this is welcome. > > Note that Ubuntu does something quite nice as well about this (the > "show me how" thing): > http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download > > Romain I would prefer to not link the download page to our temporary wiki, as it doesn't look that good imho. an extra translatable page on the website would sound good, i suppose: rough format: - What to do with this iso file? first, choose the right one for you. ==> explanation about 32bit/64bit ==> mention about dualboot ==> mention about live iso and how you can install that if you want ==> mention about the other isos and briefly what they mean option 1) burn it to CD/DVD with your favourite CD/DVD burner ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux ==> notice on size of iso and CD or DVD format, notion about RW also being ok ==> explanation of verifying md5sum option 2) how to put an iso on a stick? ==> examples with small screenshot from windows/macosx/linux ==> explanation of verifying md5sum option 3) virtualisation ==> briefly mention XEN/KVM/Vbox/VMWare ==> explanation of importance of verifying an md5sum something like this...
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52, Maarten Vanraes > wrote: >> So, >> >> I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the site, >> but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her netbook didn't >> have cdrom. >> >> I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: >> >> Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to >> handle >> the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or usb-stick-ify it) >> >> WDYT? It's always good to have this kind of documentation, that we can provide on the download page for after use. Related docs: * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Draklive#Building_a_live_CD_or_live_USB * http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux#Installation_from_a_USB_stick * maybe others I didn't find about this, but no equivalent doc on our side for now (in Wiki or website). So someone to write an article about this is welcome. Note that Ubuntu does something quite nice as well about this (the "show me how" thing): http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download Romain
Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
Hello! I think it would be a good idea to have clear instructions on how to put it on a USB. I bought a netbook a couple of years ago, and I couldn't get any distribution to install except Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and that's not the one I wanted, so instructions on how to get Mageia to install from USB would definitely be a good idea. In addition, I've noticed that nowadays a lot of non-netbooks laptops with 12" screens also ship without DVD-player so it's becoming a bigger problem (unless you have an external DVD-drive). Since Mageia comes from Mandriva, maybe instructions on how to create the USB from Windows and from Mandriva (and maybe from a desktop/other laptop install of Mageia)? Regards, David On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > So, > > I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the site, > but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her netbook didn't > have cdrom. > > I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: > > Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to handle > the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or usb-stick-ify it) > > WDYT? >
[Mageia-dev] Suggestion: what to do with iso?
So, I was talking to someone i know about Mageia, and she poked around the site, but then asked how to put the iso on an usbstick, since her netbook didn't have cdrom. I had to admit i didn't know exactly how, which brings me to my point: Perhaps it would be nice to have a link on the download page, on how to handle the iso for people who don't know how? (ie: burn it; or usb-stick-ify it) WDYT?
