[Mailman-Users] Feedback on Mailman 2.1

[Marc Perkel]

Often the programmers and the development team overlook things in upgrading 
because they don't have the same experience as the end user. I want to point out 
such a case to you so you can fix 2.1.

As a 2.0.11 user I did not need the list "mailman" and didn't have one. Thus 
when I upgraded it mostly worked. And it took a lot of work to figure out what I 
missed.

Perhaps the install/upgrade should create this list or at least there should be 
some sort of error or better documentation. Just wanted to give you a heads up 
on this to improve this fine product.

Also - there used to be a "post-only" patch that allowed members of the 
"post-only" list to post to all other lists. I very much need this feature in 
2.1 so that I can upgrade the lists at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Thanks in Advance
Marc Perkel
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

[Jon Carnes]

Hmmm, it may be a Python error.  Perhaps your RPM version of Python doesn't
load all the modules that you need.  This has been a problem in the past
with other distributions.  See if there are other supplemental RPM's for
Python - like a development RPM that has additional modules (like the
StringIO module).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
pythonlib.StringIO


> Thanks Jon, it doesn't look like that is the problem though.
> I reinstalled with
>
>
./configure  --with-python=/usr/bin/python --with-mail-gid=510 --with-cgi-gi
d=16 --prefix=/home/mailman
>
> and it has the same error. I'm using qmail btw an some virtual domains
> though this mailman is in the default place.
>
> The other mailman I have running in a different place for a different
> domain (v 2.0.13) is still running fine even with the new python.
>
> When I rpm -Uvh to the new python it replaced the 1.5 version...
>
> root@kunk ppc]# /usr/bin/python -V
> Python 2.2.2
>
> There is no other python executable on the machine...
>
> mailman@kunk mailman-2.1]$ rpm -qa | grep python
> rpm-python-4.0.3-1.03b
> libxslt-python-1.0.15-1
> python-devel-2.2.2-7
> python-docs-2.2.2-7
> python-tools-2.2.2-7
> python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3
> libxml2-python-2.4.19-1
> python-2.2.2-7
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> User Jon Carnes says:
> > I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a
switch
> > during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.
> >
> > Good Luck - Jon Carnes
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:52 PM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
> > pythonlib.StringIO
> >
> >
> > > updated installation from 2.0.13
> > >
> > > Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
> > > after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).
> > >
> > > Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
> > > on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)
> > >
> > > Bob
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

[bob]

Thanks Jon, it doesn't look like that is the problem though.
I reinstalled with 

./configure  --with-python=/usr/bin/python --with-mail-gid=510 --with-cgi-gid=16 
--prefix=/home/mailman

and it has the same error. I'm using qmail btw an some virtual domains
though this mailman is in the default place. 

The other mailman I have running in a different place for a different
domain (v 2.0.13) is still running fine even with the new python.

When I rpm -Uvh to the new python it replaced the 1.5 version...

root@kunk ppc]# /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.2.2

There is no other python executable on the machine...

mailman@kunk mailman-2.1]$ rpm -qa | grep python
rpm-python-4.0.3-1.03b
libxslt-python-1.0.15-1
python-devel-2.2.2-7
python-docs-2.2.2-7
python-tools-2.2.2-7
python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3
libxml2-python-2.4.19-1
python-2.2.2-7

Thanks,
Bob

User Jon Carnes says:
> I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a switch
> during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.
> 
> Good Luck - Jon Carnes
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:52 PM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
> pythonlib.StringIO
> 
> 
> > updated installation from 2.0.13
> >
> > Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
> > after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).
> >
> > Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
> > on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)
> >
> > Bob
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

[Jim Popovitch]

Hi Jon,

I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external search engines
or deep-linkers.  The best solution, is MHonarc, but I keep holding out for
Pipermail to catchup. ;)

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:47 PM
> To: Jim Popovitch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> archives
>
>
> Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL
> references
> (at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
> just started up the list.
>
> BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
> search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Didier
> PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
>
>
> > It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most
> if not all
> > URLs that reference archived emails.
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > > Of Jon Carnes
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> > > archives
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
> > >  - edit the archive mbox file
> > > ~mailman/archive/private//
> > > remove the messages you want gone from the archives
> > >  - delete the current html archives in
> > > ~mailman/archive/private//..
> > >  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
> your
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Have fun - Jon Carnes
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> > > Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
> have
> > > sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> > > delete just a
> > > few messages from the private archives.
> > > How can i do that ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Didier PIETTE
> > >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and searching

[Matthew Davis]

* Hunter Peress ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Could you explain how to set up searching for mailman, and what version
> this appears in, as its not on that sony linux. thanks.
> 
> NOTE that you need to include me in the reply as I am not going to
> subscribe to the list.

Check the web site and FAQ.  If you were subscribed to the list, you'd find
this question is asked fairly often.  There is an entry in the FAQ (1.11 to
be exact).

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.011.htp

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Using mailman without passwords WAS Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

[Matthew Davis]

* Jon Carnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Terry McClaugherty"
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:57 PM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman
> 
> 
> > Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
> > with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
> > the list?
> 
> Yes there are work-arounds that let you do this.  Yes, it is a very bad idea
> to setup a list this way - as I'm sure you will eventually find out.

Just testing this on my mailman installation (Mailman 2.1) and it doesn't
require a password.  I have nothing extra installed (wrappers/addons/etc).

1. I subscribe'd by sending an empty email with 'subscribe' in the subject
to listname-request@host

NOTE:  This same process was repeated using the web based form without
supplying any password.  However, mailman did assign me a password (which I
ignored for the rest of the steps).

2. confirmed by just replying to the email sent to me (which finalized my
subscription process and I start receiving mail).

3. I unsubscribed by sending an empty email with 'unsubscribe' in the
subject to listname-request@host

NOTE: Going to http://host/mailman/options/listname/address%40host gives me
an unsubscribe button.  Pushing this sends me the unsubscribe confirm email.

4. a reply to the sent email finalizes the unsubscribe process.

All steps done without any passwords being sent or used.

So editing the templates (welcome message) and other web forms, one could
easily remove refrences to the password, so users won't know the difference.
Without password authenticating the user can only unsubscribe or have the
password sent to them.  All other options (digest mode/etc) cannot be set by
the user, only the admin.

Now my 2 disclaimers.
1. Do with this information as you see fit, its not the recommended way to
setup a list.
2. Take it for what its worth, it was free.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

[Jon Carnes]

Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL references
(at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
just started up the list.

BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Didier
PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


> It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
> URLs that reference archived emails.
>
> -Jim P.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Jon Carnes
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> > archives
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
> >  - edit the archive mbox file
> > ~mailman/archive/private//
> > remove the messages you want gone from the archives
> >  - delete the current html archives in
> > ~mailman/archive/private//..
> >  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
your
> > list.
> >
> > Have fun - Jon Carnes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
have
> > sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> > delete just a
> > few messages from the private archives.
> > How can i do that ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Didier PIETTE
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

[Jon Carnes]

I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a switch
during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
pythonlib.StringIO


> updated installation from 2.0.13
>
> Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
> after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).
>
> Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
> on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)
>
> Bob
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not updating server URL on all lists

[Jon Carnes]

Have you gone into the web-admin for the offending lists and changed their
default URL's from there?
Also, when you do a ~mailman/bin/config_list of the offending lists what
URL's show up from the configuration databases?

Note: you can also use ~mailman/bin/config_list to make changes to your
lists config (read the help inside the command file).

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Ian Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Not updating server URL on all lists


> Hi, I recently moved my HTTP service from port 80 to port 8080.  I
> updated the DEFAULT_URL parameter in mm_cfg.py accordingly, however the
> results are somewhat peculiar - as can be seen from this URL:
>
>   http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/
>
> You will notice that some of the links - eg. "Betatesters", "Web" have
> the correct URL, but others - eg. "devl" still use the old URL.  People
> have reported similar inconsistencies elsewhere too.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages

[Jon Carnes]

It's in the FAQ's,
 - delete the heldmsg-... files in ~mailman/data/..  (these are the actual
messages)
 - in version 2.1 simply delete the request.db file
~mailman/lists//..
   in version 2.0 copy a request.db from another list over the existing one
(or simply run the web-admindb at that point and it will auto-sense that the
heldmsg's have been deleted and then clean out the request.db file for you).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: "Marcin Owsiany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi!
>
> A list I own recently got a lot (about half a thousand) of virii which
> were all caught for approval by mailman.
>
> Now I need to discard them all, but doing that through the web interface
> would be a nightmare. Thus I'd rather do that with Python, Perl, grep,
> filetools or anything that would let me automate the process. However I
> need some information on how to access/modify the pending posts other
> than the web interface.
>
> Where do I start? I could not find anything obvious in the docs, and
> maybe someone has already done something similar?
>
> thanks,
>
> Marcin
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-Aliases in v2.1 -was- X-Loop

[Jon Carnes]

Version 2.1 automatically creates the aliases in ~mailman/data/aliases so
you can include that in your MTA's alias checks and from that point on the
aliases are created automagically.  Read the INSTALL file.  What could be
better than that?

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> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
>
> BAW>
> BAW>> "GH" == Gareth Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> BAW>
> BAW>GH> So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change
> BAW>GH> the X-Beenthere settings?
> BAW>
> BAW>I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but sure you can add it
> BAW>to Mailman.  Pick a module in Mailman/Handlers, or make up your own
> BAW>that just adds the header with whatever value you think will help you
> BAW>accomplish your goal .
>
> Howdie,
>
> Thanks for the info :) Was wondering something about the newlist
> command. In version 2.1 you cannot use the -o aliases option. Is there
> another way to automatically add the entries of a new list to the
> aliases file?
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

[Jim Popovitch]

It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
URLs that reference archived emails.

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
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> Of Jon Carnes
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> archives
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>
> I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
>  - edit the archive mbox file
> ~mailman/archive/private//
> remove the messages you want gone from the archives
>  - delete the current html archives in
> ~mailman/archive/private//..
>  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
> list.
>
> Have fun - Jon Carnes
>
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
> sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> delete just a
> few messages from the private archives.
> How can i do that ?
>
> Regards
> Didier PIETTE
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] howto install and configure mailman inslackware8.0????

[Jon Carnes]

Down load the source from a tarball and expand it via "tar -xzf .." and then
follow the instructions in the file INSTALL (and any special instructions
from the other specific READM.xxx files).

If you have Python 2.2 installed on the system then the install should be
very easy!

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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:47 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] howto install and configure mailman in
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> can give me some instructions or some documentation about howto installing
> and configuring mailman in linux slackware 8.0
>
> I use apache as web server and sendmail as smtp server.
>
> thanks
> hengs
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

[Jon Carnes]

I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
 - edit the archive mbox file
~mailman/archive/private//
remove the messages you want gone from the archives
 - delete the current html archives in
~mailman/archive/private//..
 - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
list.

Have fun - Jon Carnes

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Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


Hi,

I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to delete just a
few messages from the private archives.
How can i do that ?

Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

[Jon Carnes]

- Original Message -
From: "Terry McClaugherty"
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman


> Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
> with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
> the list?

Yes there are work-arounds that let you do this.  Yes, it is a very bad idea
to setup a list this way - as I'm sure you will eventually find out.

>
> Also, in my from name it said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
> Myname [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Is it possible so it just comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] without
> the "behalf" part?

Very simple.  What are you using as your mail client?  Just about any mail
client these days will allow you to adjust who your mail is "from".  I can
click on the From field of this email right now and assume any one of 8
different identies (including [EMAIL PROTECTED])

>
> Thanks, I looked through the docs, but did not see the answers to these
> questions
>
> Thanks
> Terry
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO

[bob]

updated installation from 2.0.13

Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
after updating the required packages (i.e. db4). 

Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)

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[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

[Mark]

Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] Not updating server URL on all lists

[Ian Clarke]

Hi, I recently moved my HTTP service from port 80 to port 8080.  I 
updated the DEFAULT_URL parameter in mm_cfg.py accordingly, however the 
results are somewhat peculiar - as can be seen from this URL:

  http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/

You will notice that some of the links - eg. "Betatesters", "Web" have 
the correct URL, but others - eg. "devl" still use the old URL.  People 
have reported similar inconsistencies elsewhere too.

Can anyone help?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.0.13 runs on IBM OS/2 too!

[Ted Sikora]

http://powerusersbbs.net/browse/sections/mailman

http://powerusersbbs.net/mailman/listinfo

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[Mailman-Users] mailman and searching

[Hunter Peress]

mailman doesnt seem to support searching by default.

Eg: 

http://returntonature.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-sony

Could you explain how to set up searching for mailman, and what version
this appears in, as its not on that sony linux. thanks.

NOTE that you need to include me in the reply as I am not going to
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[Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages

[Marcin Owsiany]

Hi!

A list I own recently got a lot (about half a thousand) of virii which
were all caught for approval by mailman. 

Now I need to discard them all, but doing that through the web interface
would be a nightmare. Thus I'd rather do that with Python, Perl, grep,
filetools or anything that would let me automate the process. However I
need some information on how to access/modify the pending posts other
than the web interface.

Where do I start? I could not find anything obvious in the docs, and
maybe someone has already done something similar?

thanks,

Marcin
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Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop

[Gareth Hopkins]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

BAW>
BAW>> "GH" == Gareth Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BAW>
BAW>GH> So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change
BAW>GH> the X-Beenthere settings?
BAW>
BAW>I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but sure you can add it
BAW>to Mailman.  Pick a module in Mailman/Handlers, or make up your own
BAW>that just adds the header with whatever value you think will help you
BAW>accomplish your goal .

Howdie,

Thanks for the info :) Was wondering something about the newlist
command. In version 2.1 you cannot use the -o aliases option. Is there
another way to automatically add the entries of a new list to the
aliases file?

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[Mailman-Users] howto install and configure mailman in slackware8.0????

[hengky]

can give me some instructions or some documentation about howto installing
and configuring mailman in linux slackware 8.0

I use apache as web server and sendmail as smtp server.

thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop

[Gareth Hopkins]

On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

CVR>
CVR>On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 10:01  PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
CVR>
CVR>> Huh?  What's an X-loop header?  Mailman doesn't use or add this
CVR>> header.
CVR>>
CVR>
CVR>It's a procmail convention, so that procmail recipes can tell they've
CVR>already seen a message and break a potential mail loop.

So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change the
X-Beenthere settings?

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[Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

[Didier PIETTE]

Hi,

I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have 
sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to delete just a 
few messages from the private archives.
How can i do that ?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman

[Terry McClaugherty]

Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
the list?

Also, in my from name it said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
Myname [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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[Mailman-Users] Two questions: external headers and moderation

[Fernando Schapachnik]

Hi,
First of all forgive if this message is inappropiate for the
charter (too technical). Is my first post, and I haven't found the
answers in the archive.

To the point:

a) I have a 'sponsored' list and need to include some random footers
in the posts. Is there a way to include external commands' output
there?

b) Some of my moderated lists have quite a lot of traffic, but most
of the posts turn out to be Ok. I though email based moderation would
ease things on the moderator. It turns out that the confirm/deny
message comes as a MIME attachment and his MUA (Kmail, BTW) treats it
as 'read-only', so he can't reply to it. To make things worst, Kmail
wouldn't allow him to cut&paste the Subject line of the attachment
also... :( I know it is a MUA's bug, but I'm trying to find a
workaround to it. Is there some way to have this info in the message
body or something?

Also, I was expecting to have some approve/deny mechanism that
wouldn't involve sending the password in clear text. Is this planned
for some future release?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Fernando P. Schapachnik
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page(sorted)

[Mark C]

On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 12:22, Mark C wrote:

This has now been sorted, 
Thanks to Tokio Kikuchi


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

[Tokio Kikuchi]

(B> Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.
(B> 
(B> I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
(B> the internal network list admins.
(B> 
(B> I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
(B> sure where to put it.
(B
(BPut
(B
(B  Order deny,allow
(B  Deny from all
(B  Allow from 123.45.67.89
(B
(Bjust beneath the  section for mailman cgi in the
(BApache httpd.conf, and restart httpd.
(B
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[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

[Mark C]

Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

Mark

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