Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change web_page_url

2003-08-17 Thread Richard Barrett
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 06:34  am, Abigail Marshall wrote:

How do you change the web_page_url value for a list?
(Mailman 2.1.2.)
Use $prefix/bin/fix_url.py

but ensure that your virtual hosts etc are set up correctly. For a full 
explanation see:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

-Abigail

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[Mailman-Users] How to change web_page_url

2003-08-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
How do you change the web_page_url value for a list?
(Mailman 2.1.2.)

-Abigail


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[Mailman-Users] Re: send digest on demand

2003-08-17 Thread Paul H Byerly
Chuming Chen wrote:
We are using mailman to set up mailing lists. It works great. I
have some questions about using mailman.
Before I send a digest out, I would like to edit it.  Where in the
Unix world is it located? How can I have permission to read/write
it?
 Either I'm stuck in another time loop (I hate it when that happens) 
or this is the third time this has been asked.  Nagging is NOT an effective 
way to get an answer from people who are offering help on a volunteer basis.

<>< Paul, off to check for croniton particles  

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[Mailman-Users] Posting to list sends me the message and an error

2003-08-17 Thread Isaac Golding
When I post to my list under a test account that I subscribed to the
list  I get the message back from the list But I'm also getting the
following..



You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are being
rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


The From address is also incorrect as its listing the hosting company's
name and not my accounts name.


Other lists I've just created under this domain name and others are all
working fine but for some reason that I can't figure out this list
refuses to work properly.


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[Mailman-Users] Posting to list sends me the message and an error

2003-08-17 Thread Isaac Golding
When I post to my list under a test account that I subscribed to the
list  I get the message back from the list But I'm also getting the
following..



You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are being
rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


The From address is also incorrect as its listing the hosting company's
name and not my accounts name.


Other lists I've just created under this domain name and others are all
working fine but for some reason that I can't figure out this list
refuses to work properly.


Isaac Golding
Support Manager
EZOSHosting.com


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail on different Linux boxes.

2003-08-17 Thread Richard Barrett
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 08:17  pm, Student wrote:

Is it possible to run Apache and Mailman on one server but use our 
existing Mail server (Sendmail) which is on another Redhat box and 
require authentication for outgoing mail ?
The installation notes say you must have some form of MTA running on 
the machine running Mailman to deliver incoming posts to Mailman's 
delivery script(s). Mailman is quite agnostic about what that transfer 
agent should be and any one of a number of MTAs can be used; see the 
READMEs in the source distribution.

If your main mail server and the mailman server used NFS to give both 
access to the file space Mailman uses then it might be possible for 
your Mail server to inject messages directly into Mailman's queues but 
this is not a configuration I have (yet) attempted but another reader 
of the list may have done; if so, please step forward.

It is simple configuration matter for Mailman to pass outgoing mail 
direct to an SMTP server on a machine other than the one it (Mailman) 
is running on. But what do you mean by 'require authentication for 
outgoing mail' in what you said above?

As a sanity check, the main site I manage Mailman for does not expose 
the Mailman server to the internet. All incoming (and outgoing) mail 
goes through dedicated mail relay machines that do the site's virus and 
spam checking on incoming and outgoing mail. The Mailman server's local 
MTA just gets and passes 'clean' incoming posts to Mailman from the 
site's mail relays.

i don't want to install sendmail on the same box with Mailman if i can 
just set up mailman to go through  our mail server. i'm new to Linux 
and especially to Mailman. Thanks in advance for replies.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python 1.x and Mailman

2003-08-17 Thread Richard Barrett
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 09:14  pm, William Collins wrote:

I have a website on a server running Redhat 7.3 with python 1.x.

If you are running Python earlier than 1.5.2 then neither of the most 
recent stable versions of MM 2.0.x or MM 2.1.x will run.

MM 2.0.13 INSTALL document says:


0. Installation requirements
You must have the Python interpreter installed somewhere on your
system.  Currently Python 1.5.2 or later is required, but the
latest stable releases of Python 2.1.3 and 2.2.1 are recommended.
For information about obtaining Python source code, RPM packages,
or pre-compiled binaries please see:
http://www.python.org

You must also have an ANSI C compiler in order to build the
wrapper programs which are used for improved security.  The GNU C
compiler gcc 2.8.1 or later is known to work well.  For more
information about obtaining gcc, see
http://www.gnu.org

In practice, you could go for Py 2.2.3 for MM 2.0.13 but I have seen no 
reports of using Py 2.3 with it, which may not be OK.

MM 2.1.2 INSTALL document says:


0. Installation requirements
You must have a mail server (MTA) that you can send messages to,
and a web server that supports the CGI/1.1 API.  Apache makes a
fine choice for web server, and MTAs such as Postfix, Exim,
Sendmail, and qmail should work just fine.
You will need an ANSI C compiler to build Mailman's security
wrappers.  The GNU C compiler gcc 2.8.1 or later is known to work
well.  For more information about obtaining gcc, see
http://www.gnu.org

You must have the Python interpreter installed somewhere on your
system.  Currently Python 2.1.3 or Python 2.2.1 is recommended.
For information about obtaining Python source code, RPM packages,
or pre-compiled binaries please see:
http://www.python.org

If you are building Python from source, you should be fine with
the standard "./configure ; make install" for most Unix-like
OSes.  If you run "make test", you'll see a bunch of tests skipped
-- don't worry, you probably won't need them.  Mailman tries to
stick to the basics that compile on most systems.
If there is a README. file that describes your mail
server (MTA), read it now.  Some MTAs can be integrated more
seamlessly with Mailman for support of some advanced features
(like creation and removal of lists through-the-web).  Examples
are Exim and Postfix.  Setup instructions for specific MTAs are
contained in these README files.

In practice, you should go for Py 2.2.3 for MM 2.1.1 or even Py 2.3, 
which some people have reprorted they are using OK.

If you have to install Python, which is not that hard from source code, 
then use the latest Python and MM release, again from source. You can 
readily install the later Python (in /usr/local/python for instance) 
without affecting your existing Python 1.x installation on the machine, 
which, given you are using Redhat, you probably need to leave in place 
because of other dependencies.

Could you please advise me of which versioon of Mailman will run on 
this
server?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Clear Instructions for Vistual Domains

2003-08-17 Thread Phil Iovino
I agree. If someone has a guide for this please point us in the right
direction.


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> 
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> 
> Hi!
> 
> PLEASE there in no clear documentation about how to set up a 
> use mailman 
> with virtual domains (having separate lists site for each 
> virtual domain on 
> the same host). If there is a HOWTO PLESE just point me there.
> 
> PLEASE!!!


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[Mailman-Users] Clear Instructions for Vistual Domains

2003-08-17 Thread Adrian Kornhauser
Hi!

PLEASE there in no clear documentation about how to set up a use mailman 
with virtual domains (having separate lists site for each virtual domain on 
the same host). If there is a HOWTO PLESE just point me there.

PLEASE!!!



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[Mailman-Users] python 1.x and Mailman

2003-08-17 Thread William Collins
I have a website on a server running Redhat 7.3 with python 1.x.

Could you please advise me of which versioon of Mailman will run on this
server?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail on different Linux boxes.

2003-08-17 Thread Student
Is it possible to run Apache and Mailman on one server but use our existing Mail 
server (Sendmail) which is on another Redhat box and require authentication for 
outgoing mail ? 
i don't want to install sendmail on the same box with Mailman if i can just set up 
mailman to go through  our mail server. i'm new to Linux and especially to Mailman. 
Thanks in advance for replies.
 
Regards


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Re: [Mailman-Users] config questions from newbie

2003-08-17 Thread Richard Barrett
There are a number of post referring to this problem in the searchable 
mailman-users archive, including this one:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17717.html

But it might be worth searching the archives yourself and checking for 
any other suggestions.

On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 12:10  pm, Marvin Raab wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to install/troubleshoot Mailman 2.1 under Redhat 9.0.
My MTA is Postfix and it works fine (along with SpamAssassin)
I'm not sure exactly how many Mailman-related problems I have but...

I can successfully goto the Admin page and subscribe a user. I
subscribed myself.
I didn't receive the welcome message and I can't figure out why.
When I try to restart (or stop or start) MailMan using mailmanctl, I 
get
the following:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./mailmanctl", line 524, in ?
main()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 319, in main
check_privs()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 274, in check_privs
gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found
My mm_cfg.py file:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = mydomain.com'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'


From the Admin page, all the options pages are able to be reached 
except
for: GOTO LIST ARCHIVES. It attempts to reach
http://porky.devel.redhat.com/mailman/private/
When I attempt to post a test message to the list, I do not receive it
in my mailbox and I'm pretty sure it's not posted to the Archives
I've successfully tested the listname alias by changing the listname to
point to my mailbox and using postalias to regenerate the database. 
That
worked fine.

Any magical incantations to fix the problem(s) and get it working? What
am I missing?
Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What version of Mailman works with python 1.x

2003-08-17 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 07:49:32AM -0500, William Collins wrote:
> I have a website on a server running Redhat 7.3 with python 1.x.
> Could you please advise me of which version of Mailman will run on this
> server?

2.0.13 should work just fine.  
You also have the option of installing the python2 package to run
alongside python 1.x.  If you do that, you should be able to install and
run MailMan 2.1.2.

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[Mailman-Users] What version of Mailman works with python 1.x

2003-08-17 Thread William Collins
I have a website on a server running Redhat 7.3 with python 1.x.
 
Could you please advise me of which version of Mailman will run on this
server?
 
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[Mailman-Users] config questions from newbie

2003-08-17 Thread Marvin Raab
Hi all,

I'm trying to install/troubleshoot Mailman 2.1 under Redhat 9.0.
My MTA is Postfix and it works fine (along with SpamAssassin)

I'm not sure exactly how many Mailman-related problems I have but...


I can successfully goto the Admin page and subscribe a user. I
subscribed myself.
I didn't receive the welcome message and I can't figure out why.
When I try to restart (or stop or start) MailMan using mailmanctl, I get
the following:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./mailmanctl", line 524, in ?
main()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 319, in main
check_privs()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 274, in check_privs
gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found


My mm_cfg.py file:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = mydomain.com'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'



>From the Admin page, all the options pages are able to be reached except
for: GOTO LIST ARCHIVES. It attempts to reach
http://porky.devel.redhat.com/mailman/private/

When I attempt to post a test message to the list, I do not receive it
in my mailbox and I'm pretty sure it's not posted to the Archives
I've successfully tested the listname alias by changing the listname to
point to my mailbox and using postalias to regenerate the database. That
worked fine.


Any magical incantations to fix the problem(s) and get it working? What
am I missing?


Thanks!




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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe options

2003-08-17 Thread Nils Puhlmann
Thank you so much, that was a very detailed explanation. Too bad that is 
not available in the documentation of mailman otherwise I would have never 
even asked ;-)
thanks again!

At 11:08 AM 8/16/2003 +0100, you wrote:

On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 09:17  am, Nils Puhlmann wrote:

Raquel,
Thanks for the response. You say that 2.1.2 provides what I am asking
for but in the privacy options I only find the option for having a
confirmation message sent for "subscribing" but not for
"unsubscribing" members. Perhaps you can enlighten me where you find
the option to verify that an unsubscribe request actually came from
the member itself (confirmation)?
thanks, Nils

At 08:40 AM 8/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:21:25 -0700
Nils Puhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I just installed mailman and found out that there does not seem to
> be an option to have confirmed unsubscribes?
With MM 2.1.2 all unsubscribes not done by the list admin are
confirmed, as follows:
1. email unsubscribe with password supplied: no further action required.

2. email unsubscribe without password supplied: confirmation email sent
out requiring reply or web interface confirmation via emailed URL,
UNLESS Privacy->"Is the list moderator's approval required for
unsubscription requests?" option set for the list. In this latter case
only list moderator approval is necessary.
3. web interface unsubscribe with password supplied: no further action
required
4. web interface unsubscribe without password supplied: confirmation
email sent out requiring reply or web interface confirmation via
emailed URL, UNLESS Privacy->"Is the list moderator's approval required
for unsubscription requests?" option set for the list. In this latter
case only list moderator approval is necessary.
What else in the way of confirmation of an unsubscribe are you looking
for?
> It is a good idea to prevent others from unsubscribing members and
> the password is really inconvenient when people want to get off a
> list but do not remember their password.
To unsubscribe without a password, the user can just email to
-unsubscribe and then respond to the confirmation message
emailed back to them. No need to have or remember their password.
People can always get a password reminder emailed to them via the link
on the list's listinfo page or unsubscribe without a password via the
link on the list's listinfo page.
This leads to complaints
> which in turn can lead to a block by AOL for example.
> Is there anything planned like a confirmed unsubscribe option
> pretty much the same way the confirmed subscribe works?
>
> Nils
>
Version 2.1.2 provides what you're asking.

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