[Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread dino
Hi All, 

I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as far as
protecting user passwords goes?

A techy friend of mine has just kindly emailed me a list of all users
and their passwords! Looking at my server logs it would appear that he
snuck in somehow via anonymous ftp.

Would closing the anon. ftp service stop mailman working in anyway, or
dya reckon he got in some place else?

Cheers

Dino


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread dino
Well I rent a virtual server and now use SSH. But have been told that I
can't turn telnet off...sounds like rubbish to me but hey.

But I do have 99.9% shell access, so there should be a way, I am looking
into it now.

Dino

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Sent: 05 February 2003 13:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.


On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:44:10 -
dino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually he did it this way:
 
 Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable.
 
 Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch.
 
 Sorting that now
 
 Dino


The fact that telnet is open pretty much says everything about  this
sysadmin's approach to security. 

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues

2003-02-04 Thread dino
Nope. Only the single member I manually added shows up anywhere at all.

-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 04 February 2003 00:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mailman users Mailing list
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues


Not to be too obtuse but what happens when you look at the admindb
web-page for the list?  Are the subscribes waiting there to be
confirmed?

What subscribe settings in the admin web-pages?

 On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:31, dino wrote:
 Well everything seems to be OK, however here are the contents of my 
 /home/mailman/logs/subscribe file
 
 Feb 03 18:13:31 2003 (16112) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 213.78.79.150 Feb 03 18:15:07 2003 (16423) chico: pending 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 213.78.79.150
 Feb 03 18:16:14 2003 (16755) chico: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Feb 03 18:28:52 2003 (17982) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 213.78.79.150
 
 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the one that I added manually via the web 
 interface, the others I subbed via the user page.
 
 It looks like user requests are being held for some reason if they are

 submitted by potential users, but getting thru if me as the admin 
 submits them...
 
 Argh!
 
 Again any help would be gratefully received!
 
 Dino
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 February 2003 14:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Mailman users Mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues
 
 
 Check the aliases that you created and make sure that they are 
 pointing to mailman post scripts (with your list name as one of the 
 inputs).
 
 Also take a look at the steps in FAQ 3.14.  This was written 
 specifically to help new installers of Mailman v2.0.13 who are having 
 problems getting mail to go to the lists.
 
 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
 
 
 Jon Carnes
 
 On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 05:10, dino wrote:
  Hi Guys,
  
  Great product and good list, but...
  
  I had some issues installing 2.1 so on advice from ISP installed the
  last stable release before that 2.0.13.
  
  Everything works fine during the setup stage and I can create the 
  list
 
  properly with no issues, and the adding of aliases seems to go OK 
  too.
 
  Once done I can view my list from the web and everything.
  
  However, if a user goes to the web to subscribe they do get the
  initial subscribe message, but replying to that doesn't generate the

  final confirmationation email. Rather, I, as list admin, seem to get
a
 
  copy of their confirmation, and no user is created.
  
  But, manually adding subscribers from the web myself seems to work
  fine.
  
  Any ideas?
  
  Cheers
  
  Dino
  
  
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues

2003-02-04 Thread dino
Although I am now having some thoughts...probably not relevant but you
never know!

Here is my installation history:

1. Installed Mailman 2.1, but had major problems
2. My ISP (I rent a virtual server) told me that they were only
supporting 2.0.x at this time, thus:
3. Installed 2.0.13 as it is the most stable release prior to 2.1

Now, as far as uninstalling goes, I simply removed the install
directories: ie: /home/mailman and /usr/local/mailman.

Is there another uninstall step I should have taken and could the
hassles I am having be caused by something from an earlier aborted
install hanging around, dya think?

Cheers

dino

-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 04 February 2003 00:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mailman users Mailing list
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues


Not to be too obtuse but what happens when you look at the admindb
web-page for the list?  Are the subscribes waiting there to be
confirmed?

What subscribe settings in the admin web-pages?

 On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:31, dino wrote:
 Well everything seems to be OK, however here are the contents of my 
 /home/mailman/logs/subscribe file
 
 Feb 03 18:13:31 2003 (16112) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 213.78.79.150 Feb 03 18:15:07 2003 (16423) chico: pending 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 213.78.79.150
 Feb 03 18:16:14 2003 (16755) chico: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Feb 03 18:28:52 2003 (17982) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 213.78.79.150
 
 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the one that I added manually via the web 
 interface, the others I subbed via the user page.
 
 It looks like user requests are being held for some reason if they are

 submitted by potential users, but getting thru if me as the admin 
 submits them...
 
 Argh!
 
 Again any help would be gratefully received!
 
 Dino
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 February 2003 14:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Mailman users Mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues
 
 
 Check the aliases that you created and make sure that they are 
 pointing to mailman post scripts (with your list name as one of the 
 inputs).
 
 Also take a look at the steps in FAQ 3.14.  This was written 
 specifically to help new installers of Mailman v2.0.13 who are having 
 problems getting mail to go to the lists.
 
 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
 
 
 Jon Carnes
 
 On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 05:10, dino wrote:
  Hi Guys,
  
  Great product and good list, but...
  
  I had some issues installing 2.1 so on advice from ISP installed the
  last stable release before that 2.0.13.
  
  Everything works fine during the setup stage and I can create the 
  list
 
  properly with no issues, and the adding of aliases seems to go OK 
  too.
 
  Once done I can view my list from the web and everything.
  
  However, if a user goes to the web to subscribe they do get the
  initial subscribe message, but replying to that doesn't generate the

  final confirmationation email. Rather, I, as list admin, seem to get
a
 
  copy of their confirmation, and no user is created.
  
  But, manually adding subscribers from the web myself seems to work
  fine.
  
  Any ideas?
  
  Cheers
  
  Dino
  
  
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues

2003-02-03 Thread dino
Well everything seems to be OK, however here are the contents of my
/home/mailman/logs/subscribe file

Feb 03 18:13:31 2003 (16112) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
213.78.79.150
Feb 03 18:15:07 2003 (16423) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
213.78.79.150
Feb 03 18:16:14 2003 (16755) chico: new [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feb 03 18:28:52 2003 (17982) chico: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]
213.78.79.150

User [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the one that I added manually via the web
interface, the others I subbed via the user page.

It looks like user requests are being held for some reason if they are
submitted by potential users, but getting thru if me as the admin
submits them...

Argh!

Again any help would be gratefully received!

Dino

-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 03 February 2003 14:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mailman users Mailing list  
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Initial Setup Issues


Check the aliases that you created and make sure that they are pointing
to mailman post scripts (with your list name as one of the inputs).

Also take a look at the steps in FAQ 3.14.  This was written
specifically to help new installers of Mailman v2.0.13 who are having
problems getting mail to go to the lists.

Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py


Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 05:10, dino wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 Great product and good list, but...
 
 I had some issues installing 2.1 so on advice from ISP installed the 
 last stable release before that 2.0.13.
 
 Everything works fine during the setup stage and I can create the list

 properly with no issues, and the adding of aliases seems to go OK too.

 Once done I can view my list from the web and everything.
 
 However, if a user goes to the web to subscribe they do get the 
 initial subscribe message, but replying to that doesn't generate the 
 final confirmationation email. Rather, I, as list admin, seem to get a

 copy of their confirmation, and no user is created.
 
 But, manually adding subscribers from the web myself seems to work 
 fine.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 
 Dino
 
 
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