[Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al

2006-04-03 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
Here's my dilemma. I get tons of SPAM/PHISHING attacks at my email inbox. I
am tired of deleting so much crap every day.

I have SA and clamav installed, but perhaps I don't have them configured.
Would anyone here be willing to share their mix of tools and how they
implement them to fight this. 

On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for
my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of
strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per
day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that
Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's
working? 

Doc


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Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al

2006-04-03 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 4/3/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's my dilemma. I get tons of SPAM/PHISHING attacks at my email inbox. I
 am tired of deleting so much crap every day.

 I have SA and clamav installed, but perhaps I don't have them configured.
 Would anyone here be willing to share their mix of tools and how they
 implement them to fight this.

This isn't really a place to ask this... but you already seem to know
that. Thus:
How you integrate SA and clamav into your system depends on what mail
server you're running. The easiest way (I think) is to do this through
Procmail (which still requires some mail server support). Procmail
lets you define rules for handling messages. E.g., you can have a rule
for all messages that scans them with clamav and spamassassin, and
then a rule for messages that SA marks as spam (i.e., adds a header
like X-Spam: Yes or somesuch) to be discarded.

 On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for
 my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of
 strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per
 day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that
 Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's
 working?
My suggestion above works for this as well. You can use procmail rules
along with spamassassin to pre-filter posts to your list and discard
any that are blatantly spam. That said, the fact that you're getting
the notifications, rather than getting spammy posts to the list, means
that mailman is doing its job in this regard. Any improvements you
make will just result in less spam for you.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al

2006-04-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote:

On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for
my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of
strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per
day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that
Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's
working? 


What are these notices? If they are unrecognized bounces, they may
result from spam to the list-bounces address. If so, filtering before
they reach Mailman will help. You can also just turn off
bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner for the list. They can also be
unrecognized real bounces resulting from rejects or holds of posts by
non-members. Pre-filtering will help here too as will discarding
rather than holding or rejecting non-member posts if you want to go
that route.

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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