[Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread kalin mintchev 
hi all..

what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!

thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 
kalin mintchev wrote:
>
>what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!


They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a
synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
listname-unsubscribe.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread kalin mintchev 
so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
subscribe to a list and nothing happens..

the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
mail log says:

l350hXwM001076: to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:


Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Apr
04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
04
20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
subscription.

my name is not in the queue?

what's up with the delay?

thanks




> kalin mintchev wrote:
>>what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!
>
>
> They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym
for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
listname-unsubscribe.
>
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Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread kalin mintchev 

i just got the emails - all of them at once - hours after the requests
were made...

and i'm seeing something in the maillog i haven't seen before:
timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input

i just confirmed one. by replying. still not a member...

this has never happened before. i found this thread without a resolution
of the problem:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045582.html

anyone knows how that story ended?

my mailman version is 2.1.5. it has been working fine so far except i have
to restart mailman with cron because the bounce runner crashes for some
reason...



> so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
> subscribe to a list and nothing happens..
>
> the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
> mail log says:
>
> l350hXwM001076: to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list",
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
> 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>
> or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
> after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:
>
>
> Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] Apr
> 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Apr 04
> 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
> subscription.
>
> my name is not in the queue?
>
> what's up with the delay?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>> kalin mintchev wrote:
>>>what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!
>>
>>
>> They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym
> for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
> listname-unsubscribe.
>>
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> Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-05 Thread Mark Sapiro 
kalin mintchev wrote:
>
>i just got the emails - all of them at once - hours after the requests
>were made...
>
>and i'm seeing something in the maillog i haven't seen before:
>timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input
>
>i just confirmed one. by replying. still not a member...
>
>this has never happened before. i found this thread without a resolution
>of the problem:
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045582.html
>
>anyone knows how that story ended?
>
>my mailman version is 2.1.5. it has been working fine so far except i have
>to restart mailman with cron because the bounce runner crashes for some
>reason...


So you have qrunner problems possibly affecting more than bounce runner.


>> so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
>> subscribe to a list and nothing happens..
>>
>> the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
>> mail log says:
>>
>> l350hXwM001076: to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list",
>> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
>> 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>>
>> or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
>> after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:
>>
>>
>> Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED] Apr
>> 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Apr 04
>> 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
>> 04
>> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
>> 04
>> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
>> 04
>> 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
>> subscription.
>>
>> my name is not in the queue?


Look in all Mailman's logs for relevant entries. Look at Mailman's
qfiles/*/ directories. In short, go through all of
.

Report the full detail of anything unusual you find.

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