Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman admin question

2011-04-22 Thread Lucio Chiappetti

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Ognen Duzlevski wrote:


How do I find out what mailman join blah resolves to? I guess my 
question is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join 
and subscribe requests?


The MTA processes that ...


I guess the OP did not want to know how mailman works, but who is the list 
administrator for list blah ... after all he inherited a system set up 
by somebody else. I hope somebody told him the master password !


I guess that doing http://hiswebaddress/mailman/admin
he can see all the publicly advertised lists, and then enter each list 
administration panel.


And if the list is not public, he should be able to do
http://hiswebaddress/mailman/admin/blah

Is that what the OP was asking ?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman admin question

2011-04-22 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
 
 I have not played much with mailman but I am curious about something. I
 inherited a machine that runs mailman and one of the lists is setup
 through
 postfix aliases to do the following:
 
 blah-subscribe /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah
 blah-join /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah


 Actually, I suspect those aliases look like

 blah-subscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah
 blah-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah


 How do I find out what mailman join blah resolves to? I guess my
 question
 is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join and
 subscribe
 requests?


 The MTA processes that alias by piping the message to say 'blah-join'
 to the command '/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah'.
 /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman is a wrapper which will ultimately
 deliver the message in this case to a script named (probably)
 /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/join which in turn will queue the message for
 Mailman's CommandRunner which will ultimately process the subscription
 request.


 For fun I subscribed to the blah list and never received a
 reply. I looked at the mail logs on the same machine and found an entry
 along the lines of:
 
 Apr 19 20:19:07 (242320 blah: pending name email ip


 That specific entry looks like an entry from Mailman's 'subscribe' log
 which says the subscription request for the blah list was received via
 the web from ip and a confirmation request was sent to email and
 Mailman is waiting for the user to confirm. If in fact it had an IP
 address, it resulted from a web subscribe and had nothing to do with
 an email to blah-join.

 If you didn't receive the confirmation request, check the MTA logs to
 see what happened to it.

 Also, check the MTA logs to see what happened to the mail to blah-join.


 There are a bunch of lines below mentioning other users subscribing to the
 same list and their requests being approved.
 
 I realize each machine can be set up differently to process mail but
 ultimately I am curious as to what mailman join list name actually does.


 As described above, it causes Mailman to process the message as a
 request from the sender to join list name.

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Mark,

Thank you very much for the detailed reply - this is exactly what I was
looking for!

Ognen
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman admin question

2011-04-21 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Hello,

I have not played much with mailman but I am curious about something. I
inherited a machine that runs mailman and one of the lists is setup through
postfix aliases to do the following:

blah-subscribe /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah
blah-join /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah

How do I find out what mailman join blah resolves to? I guess my question
is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join and subscribe
requests? For fun I subscribed to the blah list and never received a
reply. I looked at the mail logs on the same machine and found an entry
along the lines of:

Apr 19 20:19:07 (242320 blah: pending name email ip

There are a bunch of lines below mentioning other users subscribing to the
same list and their requests being approved.

I realize each machine can be set up differently to process mail but
ultimately I am curious as to what mailman join list name actually does.

Thanks!
OD
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman admin question

2011-04-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ognen Duzlevski wrote:

I have not played much with mailman but I am curious about something. I
inherited a machine that runs mailman and one of the lists is setup through
postfix aliases to do the following:

blah-subscribe /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah
blah-join /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah


Actually, I suspect those aliases look like

blah-subscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah
blah-join: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah


How do I find out what mailman join blah resolves to? I guess my question
is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join and subscribe
requests?


The MTA processes that alias by piping the message to say 'blah-join'
to the command '/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah'.
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman is a wrapper which will ultimately
deliver the message in this case to a script named (probably)
/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/join which in turn will queue the message for
Mailman's CommandRunner which will ultimately process the subscription
request.


For fun I subscribed to the blah list and never received a
reply. I looked at the mail logs on the same machine and found an entry
along the lines of:

Apr 19 20:19:07 (242320 blah: pending name email ip


That specific entry looks like an entry from Mailman's 'subscribe' log
which says the subscription request for the blah list was received via
the web from ip and a confirmation request was sent to email and
Mailman is waiting for the user to confirm. If in fact it had an IP
address, it resulted from a web subscribe and had nothing to do with
an email to blah-join.

If you didn't receive the confirmation request, check the MTA logs to
see what happened to it.

Also, check the MTA logs to see what happened to the mail to blah-join.


There are a bunch of lines below mentioning other users subscribing to the
same list and their requests being approved.

I realize each machine can be set up differently to process mail but
ultimately I am curious as to what mailman join list name actually does.


As described above, it causes Mailman to process the message as a
request from the sender to join list name.

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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[Mailman-Users] mailman admin question

2010-03-04 Thread rey art

Dear Sr.

I Have admin user of mine mailman list. I want to know if may be possible using 
web admin page, delete old post. I Want to delete or modify some old post bye 
web:

http://mylist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/my-list-name/

may be possible?? the only way is command line? for me, now it is no possible.

Thak you

  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman admin question

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/4/2010 1:08 PM, rey art wrote:
 
 I Have admin user of mine mailman list. I want to know if may be
 possible using web admin page, delete old post. I Want to delete or
 modify some old post bye web:


There is no web facility for modifying messages in Mailman's archive.

It has to be done as in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/2YA9 which
requires command line access to the server.

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