Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-20 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Helmut Schneider wrote:

From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
 name and see if that fails too.

Does no fail. Is there a way to backup everything and then recreate those
two lists?


 A combination of bin/config_list and bin/list_members can be used to
 dump the list config and the digest and non-digest membership which
 can be then applied to a new list with bin/config_list and
 bin/add_members, but this does not preserve all user options.

 Before doing this, I would suggest using bin/config_list to dump the
 configurations of a problem list and a working list and diff the
 results. If this doesn't reveal the problem, you can try the same
 thing with the results of bin/dumpdb on the lists/listname/config.pck
 files. For this latter diff, you'll have to ignore differences in
 various attributes which are lists of members with other member info,
 but if there is something peculiar in the config of these lists which
 causes the problem, this should reveal it.

I'll try.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-18 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Helmut Schneider wrote:

 I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they
 also  work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that
 the  concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain
 an  underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant.

 I don't know either, but it seems to be the only distinguishing
 characteristic of the lists that fail.

 If you look in Mailman's 'smtp' log, can you find any evidence that the
 notices were sent?

Nope.

 You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
 name and see if that fails too.

Does no fail. Is there a way to backup everything and then recreate those 
two lists?

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Helmut Schneider wrote:

From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
 name and see if that fails too.

Does no fail. Is there a way to backup everything and then recreate those 
two lists?


A combination of bin/config_list and bin/list_members can be used to
dump the list config and the digest and non-digest membership which
can be then applied to a new list with bin/config_list and
bin/add_members, but this does not preserve all user options.

Before doing this, I would suggest using bin/config_list to dump the
configurations of a problem list and a working list and diff the
results. If this doesn't reveal the problem, you can try the same
thing with the results of bin/dumpdb on the lists/listname/config.pck
files. For this latter diff, you'll have to ignore differences in
various attributes which are lists of members with other member info,
but if there is something peculiar in the config of these lists which
causes the problem, this should reveal it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-14 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi Mark,

From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Helmut Schneider wrote:

Membership Management-Mass Subscription-Send welcome messages to new
subscribeesand Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list. On
the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't.


 Does the owner receive the owner notification?

No.

 Are there any list specific templates in lists/listname/lang/ for
 two lists that don't work?

No.

I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they also 
work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that the 
concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain an 
underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Helmut Schneider wrote:

I have 2 other lists which were not used anymore and checked them, they also 
work fine and notifications are sent. The only difference is that the 
concerned lists (the 2 which aren't sending notifications) contain an 
underscore, but I am quite unsure if this is relevant. 


I don't know either, but it seems to be the only distinguishing
characteristic of the lists that fail.

If you look in Mailman's 'smtp' log, can you find any evidence that the
notices were sent?

You might try setting up another test_list with an underscore in the
name and see if that fails too.

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[Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi,

I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD. I have 5 lists, 2 are really used, 1 is 
for testing purposes.
A admin of that 2 lists claims that subscription confirmations are not sent 
to the users allthough the checkbox is active (I checked that). For my test 
list the confirmations work for each new user.

Moreover on none of the (5) lists the monthly password reminders are working 
anymore.

I started using mailman with 2.1.2(?) and always upgraded the lists with 
every new release.

Where should I start to look at? I grepped my maillog files (which are on 
the same machine, postfix 2.1.8) but did not find anything.

Thanks, Helmut 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Helmut Schneider wrote:

I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD. I have 5 lists, 2 are really used, 1 is 
for testing purposes.
A admin of that 2 lists claims that subscription confirmations are not sent 
to the users allthough the checkbox is active (I checked that). For my test 
list the confirmations work for each new user.


Do you mean the message for the user to confirm before being subscribed
or the welcome message after subscription is completed?

The former is Privacy Options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy;
the latter is GeneralOptions-welcome_message.


Moreover on none of the (5) lists the monthly password reminders are working 
anymore.


Are the cron jobs running?. Is General Options-send_reminders on for
all the lists.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Helmut Schneider
From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Helmut Schneider wrote:

I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on OpenBSD. I have 5 lists, 2 are really used, 1
 is  for testing purposes.
A admin of that 2 lists claims that subscription confirmations are not
 sent  to the users allthough the checkbox is active (I checked that).
 For my test  list the confirmations work for each new user.

 Do you mean the message for the user to confirm before being subscribed
 or the welcome message after subscription is completed?

Membership Management-Mass Subscription-Send welcome messages to new 
subscribeesand Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list. On 
the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't.

 The former is Privacy Options...-Subscription rules-subscribe_policy;
 the latter is GeneralOptions-welcome_message.

Gereral option-notifications. Every checkbox ist selected (YES to all).

Moreover on none of the (5) lists the monthly password reminders are
 working  anymore.

 Are the cron jobs running?. Is General Options-send_reminders on for
 all the lists.

cron jobs?! Oh dear, mentioning that I remember that there was a note about 
creting cron jobs at the end of installation. LART on me :( 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not sending password reminders, subscription confirmations

2006-07-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Helmut Schneider wrote:

Membership Management-Mass Subscription-Send welcome messages to new 
subscribeesand Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list. On 
the test list it works, on the two other lists it doesn't.


Does the owner receive the owner notification?

Are there any list specific templates in lists/listname/lang/ for
two lists that don't work?

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