Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Lause
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Of course, the original toiled and never ruled.

The Romans who killed him also remade him into a king and the son of god,
the emporer's poor cousin, I guess.  This wasn't the first time that's
happened and it won't be the last.  I'm quite sure that if Jesus would have
seen what Constantine made of his teachings, he'd have rolled his eyes and
quipped to his Engels "then I am not a Christian."

The older I get, the more clearly I'm seeing how the world constructs our
perceptions of it by inverting our experience into its exact opposite.

ML

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Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Rastko Pocesta
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As comrade George Thompson noted, "There are two Christs, one of the
rulers, and one of the toilers."

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> turn the question on them. Why, as a Christian do you celebrate Yuletide,
> which, for better and for worse, is surely the most materialist holiday of
> them all? For worse, obviously, as a celebration of consumerism. For
> better, as the expression of the human need to gather together during the
> coldest and darkest season and replenish ourselves with human warmth, fat
> food, the light of fires and, yes, the stimulation of liquid, not
> immaterial, spirits?
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>> in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this is
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>> liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.*
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Re: [Marxism] Anonymous hits Stratfor

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It's obvious but merits observing that things done by "anonymous" provide
the powers taht be with a perfect opportunity to seed disinformation.  And
that the only obvious purpose of this kind of story (stealing credit card
information of employees?) is to drum up support for more online
surveillance.

ML

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Re: [Marxism] From Heidegger to Hitchens

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On 2011-12-25, at 1:20 AM, Scott Hamilton wrote:
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> http://readingthemaps.blogspot.com/2011/12/christopher-hitchens-and-end-of.html

est obit I've read on Hitchens to date. 



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Re: [Marxism] Anonymous hits Stratfor

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[Marxism] Christine Ahn of Korea Policy Institute on North Korea

2011-12-25 Thread stansfield smith
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http://www.democracynow.org/2011/12/20/the_death_of_kim_jong_il
starts just before 25 minutes
 
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/famine-in-north-korea

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Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis

2011-12-25 Thread Shane Mage

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On Dec 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, ehr...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu wrote:


To me, Wolff and Resnick's calculations seem entirely in
accord with Marx.  If you define real wages as use-value
received by the workers per hour worked,
workers don't receive "use value"--they receive *money*, which  
translates into use-value only through a price index applying to the  
entire economic system

and productivity as use-value produced per hour worked
this represents *gross* productivity [(c+v+s)/v], not *net*  
productivity [(s+v)/v].  But ever since the physiocrats (who first  
recognized the decisive importance of  *le produit net*) it has been  
clear to political economists, Marx above all, that what counts is the  
*net* product (hence the net productivity) and not the gross, the  
*net* economic surplus, not the *gross*.  In Marx's time the  
environmental cost of production (like depletion of England's coal  
reserves) was slight enough to be disregarded for simplification  
purposes.  That is now, to say the least, no longer the case.   
Unaccounted environmental cost represents a major (virtual) deduction  
from gross product and so from the surplus-value nominally available  
to capital for consumption and net investment.
then the rate of surplus-value is constant if and only if real wages  
rise at the same rate as productivity
i.e., at the same rate as *net* productivity.  The soaring impact of  
environmental cost implies that net productivity is in fact declining  
throughout the world economy as a system.

 I am flabbergasted how someone as progressive and
conscientious as Wolff and Resnick can talk about the critis
of capitalist growth today without mentioning the end of
cheap energy and the limits of planetary resources.





Shane Mage

"All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things,
as goods are for gold and gold for goods."

Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90


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Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis

2011-12-25 Thread Louis Proyect

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On 12/25/11 3:04 PM, ehr...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu wrote:

If anything, Wolff and Resnick are too much into Marx and
overlook one basic weakness of Marx.  Marx did not realize
how much the Industrial Revolution was sustained by what
Heinberg calls the fossil fuel bonanza.  For instance Marx
studied the railroad boom and the formation of joint stock
companies necessary to amass enough capital for building
railroads, but he overlooked the simple fact that without
coal England's forests would have been cut down to the last
stump before a fraction of the rail network necessary for a
modern transportation system could have been laid.  Look at
E A Wrigley's book *Energy and the English Industrial
Revolution*, Cambridge University Press 2010.


The British Isles are an illustrative microcosm of what Europe 
eventually did to the world.  The British Isles have been the scene of 
successive invasions.  The Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal people lived there 
during the last ice age, and when that ice age ended about 12,000 years 
ago, the British Isles became islands, separated from mainland Europe. 
Iberian people settled the British Isles by 3000 BC and farmed the land. 
 The Picts migrated to Scotland in about 1000 BC, and to Ireland in 200 
AD.  During the first millennium BC, the Celtic people overran Western 
Europe and also invaded the British Isles, displacing/absorbing the 
Iberian and Pictish peoples.  The Picts battled the Romans, who invaded 
and conquered England in 54 BC.  Hadrian’s Wall began construction in 
122 AD, to keep the Picts of Scotland out of England.  When the Western 
Roman Empire collapsed, the Germanic Anglo-Saxon peoples next invaded 
the British Isles.  Beginning around 800 AD, the Vikings began invading 
the British Isles and northern continental Europe.  The Vikings drove 
the Irish from the seas, and the Irish were never again a seafaring 
people.[15]  They also settled in northern France and became the Normans 
(from “Norsemen”).  The Normans invaded the British Isles in 1066, 
setting up the rule of Norman kings in England.  Those events led to the 
Hundred Years’ War, and nearly continual war with France for centuries.


The British Isles were steeped in invasion and warfare.  Also, all 
non-human competitors for energy were driven from the scene, beginning 
with competing predators.  By 900 AD, the brown bear was nearly extinct 
in the British Isles.  In 1486, the last wolf was sighted in England. 
The wolf was last sighted in Wales in 1576, and the last one in Scotland 
in 1743.  With competing predators exterminated, attention turned to 
competitors for crops.  In 1533, the English Parliament passed a law 
requiring churches to have nets to catch crows and other birds.  In 
1566, churches were authorized to pay a bounty on a wide array of birds 
and mammals.  In 1668, John Worlidge’s calendar demonstrated the English 
attitude toward animals that were “harmful” to agriculture.  In 
February, killing all snails, frogs and tadpoles was the task.  In June, 
it was destroying ants, and in July it was killing wasps and flies.[16] 
 The crane became extinct in Britain during the 1500s, as did the 
beaver.  There were walruses on the Thames as late as 1456.  The great 
auk, which once blanketed North Atlantic Islands, and was the Northern 
Hemisphere’s version of the penguin, began being hunted in the 1500s for 
food, and was rendered extinct in 1844.  The global whale rush also 
began in the 1500s, nearly rendering extinct what is possibly earth’s 
only other sentient species.


England was largely deforested by the 1500s, and then Elizabethan 
England needed ships to join the global empire game that Europe was 
beginning to play.  England’s solution was to invade Ireland and chop 
down its forests to build its navy.  Ireland has yet to recover its 
forest.  All these activities can be seen as involved with 
gaining/preserving energy by using trees for fuel and structure, using 
that newly denuded land to raise crops, killing off all animal 
competitors for that crop energy, and consuming energy by eating all 
those animals.


The Carboniferous Period likely laid down great coal deposits in what 
became Northern and Central Europe, North America, and eastern Asia. 
Europeans began mining that great source of energy during the 13th 
century.  Coal provided household heat, fuel for blacksmiths, and 
eventually powered the Industrial Revolution.  Coal is a rocklike 
substance, and burning coal not only produced carbon dioxide and water, 
but coal also contained sulfur and other elements.


Before the British Isles were completely deforested, coal began 
replacing wood as fuel.  Coal smoke from the local vicinity drove Queen 
Eleanor from Nottingham Castle in 1257.  By 13

[Marxism] Anonymous hits Stratfor

2011-12-25 Thread Juan Fajardo

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/stratfor-hacked-200gb-emails-credit-cards-stolen-client-list-released-includes-mf-global-rockef

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57348247/hackers-target-us-security-think-tank/


- Juan


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[Marxism] Starbucks Occupation in Bogazici University

2011-12-25 Thread Louis Proyect

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http://starbuckssenligi.blogspot.com/2011/12/starbucks-occupation-in-bogazici.html


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[Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis

2011-12-25 Thread ehrbar
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To me, Wolff and Resnick's calculations seem entirely in
accord with Marx.  If you define real wages as use-value
received by the workers per hour worked, and productivity as
use-value produced per hour worked, then the rate of
surplus-value is constant if and only if real wages rise at
the same rate as productivity.

Also their description how every part of the surplus-value
aids in further accumulation goes together well with Marx
Capital I.  In chapter 23 about Simple Reproduction, Marx
shows how the reproduction of the worker has become a part
of the reproduction of capital (it is the reproduction of
capital's most valuable piece of machinery), and chapter 25
shows how reproduction of capital is what nowadays would be
called an autocatalytic system: more accumulation gives
higher productivity gives more surplus-value gives more
accumulation.

If anything, Wolff and Resnick are too much into Marx and
overlook one basic weakness of Marx.  Marx did not realize
how much the Industrial Revolution was sustained by what
Heinberg calls the fossil fuel bonanza.  For instance Marx
studied the railroad boom and the formation of joint stock
companies necessary to amass enough capital for building
railroads, but he overlooked the simple fact that without
coal England's forests would have been cut down to the last
stump before a fraction of the rail network necessary for a
modern transportation system could have been laid.  Look at
E A Wrigley's book *Energy and the English Industrial
Revolution*, Cambridge University Press 2010.

Marx's oversight is forgiveable, but Wolff and Resnicks's is
not.  I am flabbergasted how someone as progressive and
conscientious as Wolff and Resnick can talk about the critis
of capitalist growth today without mentioning the end of
cheap energy and the limits of planetary resources.

Hans G Ehrbar


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[Marxism] The German Debate on the Monetary Theory of Value

2011-12-25 Thread Angelus Novus
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A good brief sumamry in the form of a book review, from Science and Society 72, 
4 (2008)



"'Monetary theory of value' usually evokes, in German speaking countries, an 
approach to Marx that has developed out of the work of Hans-Georg Backhaus over 
the last thirty years or so; its guiding assumption is that the Marxist theory 
of value 'is conceived as a critique of pre-monetary theories of value' and 'is 
essentially a theory of money at the level of the description of simple 
circulation' (Backhaus 1997, 94). In the past few years, Michael Heinrich, 
above all, has taken up the cudgels for Backhaus' thesis.


"Heinrich takes issue with the idea, still frequently encountered in the 
ongoing discussion of Marx's theory, that money is merely a formal translation 
of an immanent quantity of value:[Money] is, rather, the necessary, and, above 
all, 'only possible form in which the value of a commodity can appear'. There 
can be no form in which value is manifested independently of exchange, for to 
admit this implies abolition of the difference between privately expended and 
socially recognized labour. (Heinrich 1999, 242)"

Full article as PDF: 
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Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Daniel Lindvall

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When someone asks me why as an atheist I celebrate Christmas (a  
festivity for which the Swedish word has always remained the "pagan"  
Jul (Yule)), I turn the question on them. Why, as a Christian do you  
celebrate Yuletide, which, for better and for worse, is surely the  
most materialist holiday of them all? For worse, obviously, as a  
celebration of consumerism. For better, as the expression of the human  
need to gather together during the coldest and darkest season and  
replenish ourselves with human warmth, fat food, the light of fires  
and, yes, the stimulation of liquid, not immaterial, spirits?


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Newton was born on 4 January of the Gregorian calendar. The  
teachings of
Jesus have unfortunately been hijacked by the reactionaries, but  
they are
in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this  
is the

liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.*

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Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Rastko Pocesta
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Newton was born on 4 January of the Gregorian calendar. The teachings of
Jesus have unfortunately been hijacked by the reactionaries, but they are
in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this is the
liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.*

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Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis

2011-12-25 Thread Shane Mage

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On Dec 25, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Louis Proyect wrote:


http://www.zcommunications.org/a-marxian-interpretation-of-the-economic-crisis-by-richard-d-wolff


If Wolff had even an elementary understanding of Marxian economic  
analysis he would never have written this:
" From the early 1890s to the late 1970s, two key trends emerged in  
industry. In one, the real wage of workers in manufacturing rose by  
about 1.8 percent per year and, in the other, workers' productivity in  
manufacturing steadily rose at an even higher rate amounting to 2.3  
percent per year. Roughly interpreting these two trends in terms of  
Marxian value theory, we conclude that the rate of surplus value in  
the United States— the growth of real output per industrial worker  
relative to the real remuneration per industrial worker—rose steadily  
for almost ninety years."


But the Marxian rate of surplus value, as Marx devotes whole chapters  
to its demonstration, has nothing to do with the gross output/wages  
ratio.  It is the ratio between the total of property-derived incomes  
and the total income of the class of productive laborers (s/v).  Wolff  
makes the very same error for which Marx castigates Smith: he resolves  
the value of output not into c+v+s but into v+s alone.  Thus he treats  
the national income (which, as Marx emphasizes, is produced only by  
productive labor) as providing nothing at all to everyone in the  
category of what Marx termed "unproductive but necessary" labor--and  
not even anything at all to replace the value of fixed capital used up  
in producing the income.
This wouldn't matter if there was no rising trend in those two  
categories (which together make up Marx's "c"), but that is very much  
not the case.  The rising organic composition of capital, fundamental  
to Marx's analysis of capitalist development, forces a rise in the  
share of product represented by capital consumption.  But far more  
spectacular is the increase in the proportion of labor--*unproductive*  
labor--engaged in retail sales, office work, government administration  
and enforcement, merchandizing, etc. etc.


This ignorance is why Wolff ends with the howler that the rate of  
surplus value in the US "rose steadily for almost ninety years."  The  
fact is that during the heart of that "1890's to 1970's" period, 1900  
to 1960, which was the subject of my 1963 dissertation on the fall in  
the rate of profit,  the rate of surplus-value as calculated in labor- 
value terms (Table VII-1) fell (not "steadily" but steadily  
fluctuating downward) from about 66% in 1900 to about 25% in 1960!


Wouldn't it be nice if professors who claim to be authorities on Marx  
would actually study Marx!



Shane Mage
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[Marxism] Plenary Talk Abstracts of the Conference "Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society" (Uppsala, 2-4 May 2012)

2011-12-25 Thread Christian Fuchs

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Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society
Towards Critical Theories of Social Media
The Fourth ICTs and Society-Conference
Uppsala University, May 2nd-4th, 2012.

The collected abstracts of the plenary talks are now available:
http://www.icts-and-society.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/abstracts.pdf

Opening Plenary
Vincent Mosco (Queen’s University, Canada): Marx is Back, but Will 
Knowledge Workers of the World Unite? On the Critical Study of Labour, 
Media, and Communication Today
Graham Murdock (Loughborough University, UK): The Digital Lives of 
Commodities: Consumption, Ideology and Exploitation Today


Featuring plenary talks by Andrew Feenberg, Catherine McKercher, Charles 
Ess, Christian Christensen, Christian Fuchs, Gunilla Bradley, Mark 
Andrejevic, Nick Dyer-Witheford, Peter Dahlgren, Tobias Olsson, Trebor 
Scholz, Ursula Huws, Wolfgang Hofkirchner.


Abstract submission: open until February, 2012 29 (deadline)
ATTENTION: We recommend EARLY submission of abstracts way before the 
deadline because the presentation slots are limited and abstracts will 
be reviewed continuously starting in early January 2012. Once all 
presentation slots are filled, the submission process will be closed.

Submission information:
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[Marxism] David Harvey's Deutscher Prize Lecture

2011-12-25 Thread jay rothermel
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbOUCLYZVBU&feature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Lause
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Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25

2011-12-25 Thread Tristan Sloughter
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Good to know I'm not the only one here who celebrates Gravmas :)

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[Marxism] Fwd: [E of S] CORRECT ADDRESS to help 1968 Olympian Lee Evans

2011-12-25 Thread Ron Jacobs
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On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:26 AM, edgeofsports wrote:

> Folks: Please forward this email. The CORRECT address to help Lee Evans,
> 1968 Olympic record setter and political activist who was diagnosed with a
> rain tumor and no health care: Send funds right away to Rosemary Evans;
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[Marxism] Interview with a Syrian intellectual and revolutionary

2011-12-25 Thread Louis Proyect

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http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/3749/patriotism-democracy-and-revolution-in-syria-and-b


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Re: [Marxism] 'Diversity,’ imprisonment: 2 sides of same coin

2011-12-25 Thread Mark Lause
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There are those who see class as a complex identity, mediated by all
sorts of things, a social reality understood only through critical and
self-critical processing of information and interpretations.

Then there is the tendency to define what is and isn't proletarian in
a way that couches their self-perceptions in the most comfortable way.
 Conversely, what's discomforting becomes "proletarian" bracked with
dismissifvequotes.  The SWP--and it was far from alone in this--always
mingled its acknowledgement of this reality with an underlying,
self-serving dismissal of that reality as something other than its
ideal of a "proletarian party."

What interests me about the Studer piece is that you get diametrically
opposed assertions to those which he and the SWP would have made in
the 1970s, but flowing from the same flakey approach . . . which
is--and always was--proletarian after the fashion of the corporate
Organizational Man--but frankly doesn't seem to me to have much to do
with Marxism.

We should look to a future because it can only offer us better.

ML


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[Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis

2011-12-25 Thread Louis Proyect

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http://www.zcommunications.org/a-marxian-interpretation-of-the-economic-crisis-by-richard-d-wolff


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Re: [Marxism] Leonard Cohen: Democracy is Coming

2011-12-25 Thread Greg McDonald
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Good point. Totally skipped my mind. Gotta say though, I won't be
giving away any of my Leonard Cohen albums any time soon.

Greg

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Dennis Brasky  wrote:

> Is this the same Leonard Cohen who ignored the international boycott
> against Israel and recently performed for the apartheid state?
>
> PEP - Progressive EXCEPT on Palestine!
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Greg McDonald  wrote:
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVaqrqb3bk&feature=player_embedded#!


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