Re: [Marxism] Marxist/leftist science fiction/fantasy lit

2012-04-14 Thread Einde O'Callaghan

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On 15.04.2012 03:13, dave x wrote:

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Ken MacLeod is/was a trotskyist of sorts.


Ken MacLeod was a member of the International Marxist Group, the British 
Section of the USFI in the late 1960s and 1970s. His books often contain 
leftists political "in-jokes".


Einde O'Callaghan


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Re: [Marxism] Marxist/leftist science fiction/fantasy lit

2012-04-14 Thread Einde O'Callaghan

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On 14.04.2012 19:22, Jess Martin wrote:

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Of interest to list members may be China's recommendations for 50 Sci-Fi&
Fantasy Works Every Socialist Should Read, to be found here among other
places:

http://theweeklyansible.tumblr.com/post/20777236577/50-sci-fi-fantasy-works-every-socialist-should-read

China has recently pointed out that this list is over 10 years old and 
that there are a number of important omissions.


Einde O'Callaghan


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Re: [Marxism] Marxist/leftist science fiction/fantasy lit

2012-04-14 Thread dave x
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Ken MacLeod is/was a trotskyist of sorts.
On Apr 14, 2012 10:52 AM, "Sun Eagle"  wrote:

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> Thanks. Also worth mentioning are the late Octavia Butler (the
> change-shifter series, esp. WILDSEED) and Samuel Delaney, for
> African-American science fiction is a sub-genre of its own. BTW, some
> astute readers have noted that Delaney's mammoth second novel, DHALGREN,
> bears an uncanny resemblence to Bowie's song "Diamong Dogs"---the Manhattan
> Chase Bank, the character who dresses like a priest to escape down an
> elevator shaft, packs of wild dogs roaming through a city that may not
> exist, etc. Since the novel came out before the album, and Bowie is an
> admitted sci-fi fan, you have to figure plagiarism on some level.
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> Of interest to list members may be China's recommendations for 50 Sci-Fi &
> Fantasy Works Every Socialist Should Read, to be found here among other
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> http://theweeklyansible.tumblr.com/post/20777236577/50-sci-fi-fantasy-works-every-socialist-should-read
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> It's worth noting that several SF/F authors of note have been committed
> leftists, if not explicitly Marxists. H.G. Wells was a Fabian; Kim Stanley
> Robinson is a leftist, and both Ursula Le Guin and Michael Moorcock
> identify as anarchists.
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Re: [Marxism] Marxist/leftist science fiction/fantasy lit

2012-04-14 Thread Sun Eagle
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Thanks. Also worth mentioning are the late Octavia Butler (the change-shifter 
series, esp. WILDSEED) and Samuel Delaney, for African-American science fiction 
is a sub-genre of its own. BTW, some astute readers have noted that Delaney's 
mammoth second novel, DHALGREN, bears an uncanny resemblence to Bowie's song 
"Diamong Dogs"---the Manhattan Chase Bank, the character who dresses like a 
priest to escape down an elevator shaft, packs of wild dogs roaming through a 
city that may not exist, etc. Since the novel came out before the album, and 
Bowie is an admitted sci-fi fan, you have to figure plagiarism on some level.

Of interest to list members may be China's recommendations for 50 Sci-Fi &
Fantasy Works Every Socialist Should Read, to be found here among other
places:

http://theweeklyansible.tumblr.com/post/20777236577/50-sci-fi-fantasy-works-every-socialist-should-read

It's worth noting that several SF/F authors of note have been committed
leftists, if not explicitly Marxists. H.G. Wells was a Fabian; Kim Stanley
Robinson is a leftist, and both Ursula Le Guin and Michael Moorcock
identify as anarchists.

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Re: [Marxism] Marxist/leftist science fiction/fantasy lit

2012-04-14 Thread Jess Martin
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Of interest to list members may be China's recommendations for 50 Sci-Fi &
Fantasy Works Every Socialist Should Read, to be found here among other
places:

http://theweeklyansible.tumblr.com/post/20777236577/50-sci-fi-fantasy-works-every-socialist-should-read

It's worth noting that several SF/F authors of note have been committed
leftists, if not explicitly Marxists. H.G. Wells was a Fabian; Kim Stanley
Robinson is a leftist, and both Ursula Le Guin and Michael Moorcock
identify as anarchists.

Happy reading.

- Jess

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> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Sun Eagle  wrote:
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> One can find sci-fi authors whose politics range from liberal to
> > libertarian, but are there any prominent Marxists one could name?
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> I've been meaning to read *Red Planets: Marxism and Science Fiction* for
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> http://www.sfsite.com/05b/rp320.htm
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> Haven't yet, though.
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> "Hige sceal ?e heardra, heorte ?e cenre, mod sceal ?e mare, ?e ure m?gen
> lytla?."
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