Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Marx, Lincoln and Project 1619 | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 14 Feb 2020 at 14:24, Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist wrote: >It did not seem to matter to Sorge or Marx that Woodhull´s running-mate was >none other than Frederick Douglass. His willingness to join her had a lot to do with the respect that her section in N.Y. had earned. > Sorge and Marx aside, there are some serious issues concerning Woodhull's party. According to Wikipedia, "In 1872, Douglass became the first African American nominated for Vice President of the United States, as Victoria Woodhull's running mate on the Equal Rights Party ticket. He was nominated without his knowledge. Douglass neither campaigned for the ticket nor acknowledged that he had been nominated." It also says that, however, "he would serve as a presidential elector in the United States Electoral College for the State of New York". I suspect Wikipedia is right about this, because if Frederick Douglass had campaigned against the Republican Party in 1872, there would probably be a number of notable speeches by him on this subject, including answers to the objections of a number of other African American leaders of the time. And there's a serious issue about whether it shows respect for a movement to claim one of the most prominent activists of that movement as one of one's leaders without that activist's permission. And it's not as if he had been unavailable for consultation. Meanwhile the party may have had as many names, if not more, than years of active existence. I don't think it ever ran another presidential ticket. And Wikipedia claims it was called such things as the Equal Rights Party, the People's Party (but it was *not* the famous later People's Party), the Cosmo-Political Party, and the National Radical Reformers. But maybe someone can fill us in as to what happened during its 1872 campaign. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Marx, Lincoln and Project 1619 | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 2/15/20 3:29 PM, Joseph Green via Marxism wrote: Sorge and Marx aside, there are some serious issues concerning Woodhull's party. According to Wikipedia, "In 1872, Douglass became the first African American nominated for Vice President of the United States, as Victoria Woodhull's running mate on the Equal Rights Party ticket. He was nominated without his knowledge. Douglass neither campaigned for the ticket nor acknowledged that he had been nominated." There's hardly any mention of Douglass in Messer-Kruse's book except that he was nominated. I ordered a copy of Barbara Goldsmith's highly regarded bio of Woodhull and will report back on what it says. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if what Wiki said is true. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Marx, Lincoln and Project 1619 | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Douglass actually acknowledged the nomination, thanked them for it, and declared his support for the Republican ticket. The backstory on this had to do with the efforts of the Woodhull wing of the women's movement to keep "universal suffrage" on the agenda" after the adoption of the `5th Amendment in 1870. In a very real sense, the persistent advocacy of woman suffrage represented the left wing of what had been a rather broad civil rights movements in the wake of the war. This was not an unreasonable place for the IWA to want to position itself. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com