mc and me

[Egmont Koblinger]

Hi guys,

I've been thinking about writing something like this for quite a long time...

Some of you might know that I like contributing to various open source
projects as a hobby.  Some of you might know what my top hobby project
is.  mc is the second in the line.

Recently I've devoted a much bigger portion of my hobby time to that
other project (gnome-terminal/vte), probably mostly because I'm
welcome there.  I have git access (I didn't request, they recommended
it to me), I can submit the trivial changes straight away, while I
still ask the main developer's opinion on bigger ones.  Sometimes we
disagree, I try to convince him, but if I fail, it's his choice.
Sometimes he reverts a patch that he disagrees with.  Despite these,
contributing there is fun.

We've talked a lot about the development process not being anywhere
near as smooth as it should be.  On one hand there's noone to blame:
it's just a bunch of guys all spending their free time on the project.
On the other hand: I think it would be the responsibility of the
current developers to allow others to contribute more easily, and step
out of the way if they're the bottleneck.

I think I have contributed quite some useful features and generally
good quality code, and hope that I could build up certain reputation
and trust in the team.  Some guys here have already recommended that I
get git access, although I never asked.

The time has come.  The current way of so slowly getting feedback or
acceptance on my contributions is not going to work anymore.  I'm
tired of this, really tired.  I'm happy to contribute as long as it's
fun.  Probably #3534 comment 18 was the last straw (a one-character
change probably not making it into the next release).  No, I didn't
get offended, I didn't take it personally.  It could have been the
lack of feedback on any other ticket, there's been so many recently.

I just realized it doesn't work.  I realized it's no longer fun.

The question is: backwards, or forwards?

Hereby I'm requesting to become a member of the team, with git access,
getting to know the development process, policies (e.g. which changes
require approval, when to git branch, etc.), and requesting to get
faster responses to my patches that require review – or to be able to
submit them if I don't get response in a certain amount of time.  (We
can still revert a change later if someone disagrees.)

I'm sorry, but next to a full-time job, another hobby coding project,
and some weird thing called life, I'd like to make it clear that I
can't take on any responsibility.  I'm happy to help and improve mc
whenever/wherever I feel like, keep doing what I did so far and do
even more, but without obligations.  Can you guys make it easier for
me?  Do you trust me enough?

If so, let's move forward!

If not, I'll replace mc by another hobby where I have much more fun.

Thanks a lot,
egmont
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Re: mc and me

[Mooffie]

On 11/4/15, Egmont Koblinger  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I've been thinking about writing something like this for quite a long
> time...

Egmont, I feel for you!

(I hope these are suitable words. I'm not an English speaker. At this
moment I'm hungry and tired so I'm giving up revising that sentence
;-)

It'd pain me greatly to see you go or no longer contributing. I'm
relatively new here and you (and Yury, and Andrew) are the only one(s)
I've seen showing care/love towards MC. So, in a very straightforward
way, you're very precious to me - and to every user of MC. Not from a
utilitarian point of view but also from that of being a kin - bonded
by love for MC. Though I don't think we're a crowd that differentiates
between "love" and "utility" when it come to our hobby software! ;-)

> Probably #3534 comment 18 was the last straw (a one-character
> change probably not making it into the next release).

I'm sorry that I chimed in there. I thought I could help expedite
matters by providing "review" to help bring the issue to conclusion,
but, alas, my "contribution" there added needless volume and probably
did the opposite.

On the up side, every comment of yours there attest to your
thoroughness. Not that I needed more evidence for that. One needs to
read only few of your tickets to understand that the community can
entrust you with responsibility.

>
> The question is: backwards, or forwards?

So indeed, Yury, why not forward?

The sun is shining, the birds are chirping, the coffee is a brewing,
and a cheery letter from Egmont is waiting; what can be better than
that?
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Re: Please release 4.8.15

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi Egmont,

Sorry for failing to answer earlier, but I guess you know the current
situation well enough anyways to not to require further explanations...

On Tue, 2015-11-03 at 00:22 +0100, Egmont Koblinger wrote:
> 
> Ping - any plans??

My plan is still to make a release from the current master as soon as I
can get to it. The question is when this is going to happen. I've put
aside some time from under the Christmas tree... whether I'll manage to
beat this or not, I can't tell, but I'm honestly trying.

> If there are 2-3 more fixes you'd like to sqeeze in, sure, go ahead
> and apply them quickly (and please include #3534 as well).

See comment therein...

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Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev


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Re: Please release 4.8.15

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 21:22 +0200, Egmont Koblinger wrote:
> 
> Now that the infamous segfault is finally fixed, could we please have
> a new release in the very near future?

Hi Andrew,

I'm generally happy with the current state of master, I only wanted to
update the POT file again, so that translators can catch up if anything
has changed.

What are your plans? I've seen that Slava has been looking at the
cleanup branch. It would be great if we can get this merged, and then I
can try to cut a release, maybe assisted by Slava if he has time.

Probably it would be better to go through the whole process at least
once for someone other than Slava, even if he is able to make more time,
given the circumstances...

What do you think? Anything you'd absolutely like to get done before
4.8.15, anything I should focus on when I get a chance to help us to get
there, eventually?

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Yury V. Zaytsev


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Re: Migration to Travis CI and help with tests

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

On Tue, 2015-11-03 at 08:20 +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote:
> 
> Really really thanks for this. 

Hi Marco,

I really wish I could get to it earlier, this is really long time
overdue... but it's the way it is :-/

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Yury V. Zaytsev


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