Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello, > >MdI> A long time ago I added Alt-o as a binding that would help in > >MdI> navigating directories. The idea is that in one panel you press Alt-o, > >MdI> and if the selection is on a directory, it will load the contents of the > >MdI> highlighted directory into the other panel. If no directory was > >MdI> selected, this was a no-op. > > > >MdI> At some point this behavior was removed from mc, and now instead it > >MdI> just loads the current directory on the other panel, which is not very > >MdI> useful for navigating anything. > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2002-November/msg00039.html > > > >MdI> I remember having this discussion with Pavel but I forget the > >MdI> rationale for it. I would like to get this change reverted in CVS. Any > >MdI> objections? > > > > I'm agreed with you. Old behavior of ALT-O is more good. > > > Yes, the old variant is more preferable, and we patch upstream releases > each time for it. > My variant attached (as an example). It is against latest RedHat`s > fedora-devel build. I have now changed the behavior of Alt-o, and added a new Alt-i key binding that keeps the current behavior. There is no configuration option to switch, because in the long term different mc installations would behave differently. As for the preference of Alt-o over Alt-i, given that mc was not released for a very long time, the user base is probably split 50-50 so either way was going to cause trouble. Miguel. ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Leonard den Ottolander wrote: Hi Miguel, On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 15:51, Miguel de Icaza wrote: I will make it a configuration feature, and restore the old behavior by default. Maybe keep the new behaviour the default? You seem to be the only one still remembering the old behaviour ;-). Leonard. I remeber it too! :-) (And my users actually use it!) But I not against if it will be a new behavior as default... -- Dmitry Butskoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Saint-Petersburg, Russia Red Hat Certified Engineer 809003662809495 ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hi Miguel, On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 15:51, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > I will make it a configuration feature, and restore the old behavior by > default. Maybe keep the new behaviour the default? You seem to be the only one still remembering the old behaviour ;-). Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello, > >Let me propose some possibilities: > > > >1) Revert Alt-o -> annoyed users because Alt-o suddenly changes. > > > >2) Create an alternate keyboard shortcut such as Alt-i that acts like > >the old Alt-o. > > > >3) Keep Alt-o shortcut and switch between old/new Alt-o in > >Options/Configuration. > > > >Personally I vote for 2) because mc won't lose any of its functionality > >and it won't need too much work IMHO. > > > > > > > May be 2) and 3) both? To avoid discrimination of old-style (or > new-style) users... You guys raise good points. I will make it a configuration feature, and restore the old behavior by default. Miguel. ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello, On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Jindrich Novy wrote: > 2) Create an alternate keyboard shortcut such as Alt-i that acts like > the old Alt-o. > > 3) Keep Alt-o shortcut and switch between old/new Alt-o in > Options/Configuration. > > Personally I vote for 2) because mc won't lose any of its functionality > and it won't need too much work IMHO. I vote for solution number 3. I never was aware of the "old" Alt + O functionality but I frequently use the "new" behaviour. ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 03:11:37PM +0300, buc wrote: > Jindrich Novy wrote: > >Let me propose some possibilities: > > > >1) Revert Alt-o -> annoyed users because Alt-o suddenly changes. > > definitely. i never used the old alt-o, but i'm sort of addicted to the new one. > >2) Create an alternate keyboard shortcut such as Alt-i that acts like > >the old Alt-o. > > this has my vote, too. i _guess_ meanwhile there are more new-style users ... > >3) Keep Alt-o shortcut and switch between old/new Alt-o in > >Options/Configuration. > > > May be 2) and 3) both? To avoid discrimination of old-style (or > new-style) users... > configurability at its best ... :{ -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Jindrich Novy wrote: Let me propose some possibilities: 1) Revert Alt-o -> annoyed users because Alt-o suddenly changes. 2) Create an alternate keyboard shortcut such as Alt-i that acts like the old Alt-o. 3) Keep Alt-o shortcut and switch between old/new Alt-o in Options/Configuration. Personally I vote for 2) because mc won't lose any of its functionality and it won't need too much work IMHO. May be 2) and 3) both? To avoid discrimination of old-style (or new-style) users... -- Dmitry Butskoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Saint-Petersburg, Russia ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Pavel Shirshov (pchel) wrote: Hello Miguel, Sunday, January 30, 2005, 9:40:03 AM, you wrote: MdI> A long time ago I added Alt-o as a binding that would help in MdI> navigating directories. The idea is that in one panel you press Alt-o, MdI> and if the selection is on a directory, it will load the contents of the MdI> highlighted directory into the other panel. If no directory was MdI> selected, this was a no-op. MdI> At some point this behavior was removed from mc, and now instead it MdI> just loads the current directory on the other panel, which is not very MdI> useful for navigating anything. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2002-November/msg00039.html MdI> I remember having this discussion with Pavel but I forget the MdI> rationale for it. I would like to get this change reverted in CVS. Any MdI> objections? I'm agreed with you. Old behavior of ALT-O is more good. Yes, the old variant is more preferable, and we patch upstream releases each time for it. My variant attached (as an example). It is against latest RedHat`s fedora-devel build. -- Dmitry Butskoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Saint-Petersburg, Russia Red Hat Certified Engineer 809003662809495 diff -Nrbu mc-4.6.1-20041108/src/screen.c mc-4.6.1-20041108-OK/src/screen.c --- mc-4.6.1-20041108/src/screen.c 2004-11-23 20:05:42.0 +0300 +++ mc-4.6.1-20041108-OK/src/screen.c 2004-11-23 20:05:30.0 +0300 @@ -2140,25 +2140,25 @@ return do_enter_on_file_entry (selection (panel)); } -/* - * Make the current directory of the current panel also the current - * directory of the other panel. Put the other panel to the listing - * mode if needed. If the current panel is panelized, the other panel - * doesn't become panelized. - */ static void chdir_other_panel (WPanel *panel) { +char *new_dir; + if (get_other_type () != view_listing) { set_display_type (get_other_index (), view_listing); } -do_panel_cd (other_panel, current_panel->cwd, cd_exact); +if (!S_ISDIR (panel->dir.list [panel->selected].st.st_mode)) +new_dir = concat_dir_and_file (panel->cwd, ".."); +else +new_dir = concat_dir_and_file (panel->cwd, panel->dir.list [panel->selected].fname); + +do_panel_cd (other_panel, new_dir, cd_exact); -/* try to select current filename on the other panel */ -if (!panel->is_panelized) { - try_to_select (other_panel, selection (panel)->fname); -} +move_down (panel); + +g_free (new_dir); } static void ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello Miguel, On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 23:40 -0500, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > Hello, > > A long time ago I added Alt-o as a binding that would help in > navigating directories. The idea is that in one panel you press Alt-o, > and if the selection is on a directory, it will load the contents of the > highlighted directory into the other panel. If no directory was > selected, this was a no-op. > > At some point this behavior was removed from mc, and now instead it > just loads the current directory on the other panel, which is not very > useful for navigating anything. > > I remember having this discussion with Pavel but I forget the > rationale for it. I would like to get this change reverted in CVS. Any > objections? The old behavior of Alt-o seems helpful to me, but still many users use the new Alt-o to sync contents within both panels, what is also fine. Let me propose some possibilities: 1) Revert Alt-o -> annoyed users because Alt-o suddenly changes. 2) Create an alternate keyboard shortcut such as Alt-i that acts like the old Alt-o. 3) Keep Alt-o shortcut and switch between old/new Alt-o in Options/Configuration. Personally I vote for 2) because mc won't lose any of its functionality and it won't need too much work IMHO. -- Jindrich Novy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello Miguel, Pavel > Sunday, January 30, 2005, 9:40:03 AM, you wrote: > > MdI> A long time ago I added Alt-o as a binding that would help in > MdI> navigating directories. The idea is that in one panel you press Alt-o, > MdI> and if the selection is on a directory, it will load the contents of the > MdI> highlighted directory into the other panel. If no directory was > MdI> selected, this was a no-op. > > MdI> At some point this behavior was removed from mc, and now instead it > MdI> just loads the current directory on the other panel, which is not very > MdI> useful for navigating anything. > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2002-November/msg00039.html > > MdI> I remember having this discussion with Pavel but I forget the > MdI> rationale for it. I would like to get this change reverted in CVS. Any > MdI> objections? > > I'm agreed with you. Old behavior of ALT-O is more good. And now it seems it was some harry move to remove '..' from directory listing. -- Regards, Andrew V. Samoilov GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM BCS! http://www.bcs.zp.ua Join BCS today! For your FREE webmail, visit: http://email.zp.ua/ ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Restoring the functionality of Alt-o
Hello Miguel, Sunday, January 30, 2005, 9:40:03 AM, you wrote: MdI> A long time ago I added Alt-o as a binding that would help in MdI> navigating directories. The idea is that in one panel you press Alt-o, MdI> and if the selection is on a directory, it will load the contents of the MdI> highlighted directory into the other panel. If no directory was MdI> selected, this was a no-op. MdI> At some point this behavior was removed from mc, and now instead it MdI> just loads the current directory on the other panel, which is not very MdI> useful for navigating anything. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2002-November/msg00039.html MdI> I remember having this discussion with Pavel but I forget the MdI> rationale for it. I would like to get this change reverted in CVS. Any MdI> objections? I'm agreed with you. Old behavior of ALT-O is more good. -- Best regards, Pavelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel