Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Hmm. Didn't think about that one. More disincentive to have US based 
manufacturing.


Rick

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JIT systems, IMHO, are driven primarily by government-instituted inventory 
taxes.

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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

JIT systems, IMHO, are driven primarily by government-instituted inventory 
taxes.

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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Don't forget "Just In Time" delivery. No need to stock parts in inventory, oh 
hell no. We can get them "just in time". How's that working out for the auto 
industry now, with the semiconductor shortage?


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When I entered engineering, we basically _never_ used single-sourced parts.
Now, it's mostly nothing _but_ single-sourced parts.

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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

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When I entered engineering, we basically _never_ used single-sourced parts.
Now, it's mostly nothing _but_ single-sourced parts.

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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Welcome to the modern world, where simple things are now needlessly
complicated and dependent on supply chains that can disappear overnight.

This is why I don't like computers in cars.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> Apparently the company that made the chips or whatever went out of business 
> or something so it is difficult to get the keys made. Sounds shady to me but 
> that’s their story
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 9:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is ridiculous. This is a vehicle that was produced in mass quantity 
>> from 98-05 and you can’t get a damn key for it. Unbelievable. 
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Apparently the company that made the chips or whatever went out of business or 
something so it is difficult to get the keys made. Sounds shady to me but 
that’s their story

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2021, at 9:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is ridiculous. This is a vehicle that was produced in mass quantity 
> from 98-05 and you can’t get a damn key for it. Unbelievable. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. 
>> My dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting to 
>> get them at one time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
 Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
 Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
 seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in 
 my pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
 hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall 
 out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my 
 pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if 
 they are not available anymore. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This is ridiculous. This is a vehicle that was produced in mass quantity from 
98-05 and you can’t get a damn key for it. Unbelievable. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. My 
> dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting to get 
> them at one time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
>>> Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
>>> Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
>>> seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in my 
>>> pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
>>> hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall 
>>> out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my 
>>> pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if 
>>> they are not available anymore. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s the best way to communicate with them, I’ve found.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried calling the classic center twice the other day, no answer or callback 
> so I sent an email and got responses 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Any dealer will know. If they don’t, and I would find that unusual as this 
>> has been an ongoing issue for some time, just tell them to check the “PAC 
>> Key Chart” and they’ll be able to figure it out.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try the classic center. Tom Hansen will know.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. 
>>> My dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting 
>>> to get them at one time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
> Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
> Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
> seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in 
> my pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
> hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall 
> out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my 
> pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem 
> if they are not available anymore. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I tried calling the classic center twice the other day, no answer or callback 
so I sent an email and got responses 

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Any dealer will know. If they don’t, and I would find that unusual as this 
> has been an ongoing issue for some time, just tell them to check the “PAC Key 
> Chart” and they’ll be able to figure it out.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Try the classic center. Tom Hansen will know.
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. My 
>> dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting to 
>> get them at one time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
 Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
 Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
 seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in 
 my pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
 hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall 
 out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my 
 pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if 
 they are not available anymore. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Any dealer will know. If they don’t, and I would find that unusual as this has 
been an ongoing issue for some time, just tell them to check the “PAC Key 
Chart” and they’ll be able to figure it out.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Try the classic center. Tom Hansen will know.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. My 
> dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting to get 
> them at one time.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
> > 
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> > 
> >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
> >> Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
> >> Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
> >> seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in 
> >> my pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
> >> hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall 
> >> out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my 
> >> pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if 
> >> they are not available anymore. 
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Try the classic center. Tom Hansen will know.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 8:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss.
> My dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting
> to get them at one time.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out
> to Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving
> Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I
> seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in my
> pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am
> hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall
> out of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my
> pocket. I am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if
> they are not available anymore.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Jaime might have an update, but the last time I asked it was hit or miss. My 
dealer had a list of people that was literally 100+ names long waiting to get 
them at one time.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
>> Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving 
>> Saturday. I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I 
>> seem to recall having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in my 
>> pocket or put it in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am 
>> hoping it didn’t fall out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall out 
>> of the truck somewhere at one of the stops made, or fell out of my pocket. I 
>> am just not finding it anywhere. This could be a huge problem if they are 
>> not available anymore. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Seems like they are intermittently available. Call a stealer. 

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to 
> Texas and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving Saturday. 
> I remember that did not take the key back into the house and I seem to recall 
> having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in my pocket or put it 
> in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am hoping it didn’t fall 
> out of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall out of the truck somewhere 
> at one of the stops made, or fell out of my pocket. I am just not finding it 
> anywhere. This could be a huge problem if they are not available anymore. 
> 
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[MBZ] Are ML keys still available?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Seems I have heard they are not. The ML was supposed to be going out to Texas 
and it ended up not happening so I unloaded it before leaving Saturday. I 
remember that did not take the key back into the house and I seem to recall 
having having it with me. I can’t remember if I had it in my pocket or put it 
in my bag. Long story short now I can’t find it. I am hoping it didn’t fall out 
of my bag at one or the hotels I was out, fall out of the truck somewhere at 
one of the stops made, or fell out of my pocket. I am just not finding it 
anywhere. This could be a huge problem if they are not available anymore. 

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